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post #2401 of 5812
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Originally Posted by JBrax View Post


By using the THX modes do you think I'm altering the intended audio signal? My receiver shows the various formats as well as THX when playing BD's.

IMO, I want to hear what the Sound Engineers involved with the film I am watching wanted me to hear, rather than some algorithm/formula making assumptions (THX). I can definitely hear a difference, but which is best? I have decided to go with less processing of an HD Audio signal - the nearer to the original, the better for me.

What is it you prefer with THX interpretation?
post #2402 of 5812
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post


IMO, I want to hear what the Sound Engineers involved with the film I am watching wanted me to hear, rather than some algorithm/formula making assumptions (THX). I can definitely hear a difference, but which is best? I have decided to go with less processing of an HD Audio signal - the nearer to the original, the better for me.

What is it you prefer with THX interpretation?

To be honest prior to choosing my receiver I did much Internet research and it seemed as though many people found the THX modes to sound the best. Having said that I really haven't messed around testing the various sound formats for myself. Maybe I should.
post #2403 of 5812
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Originally Posted by bo130 View Post

I have been considering moving from an 807 to an 809, but after reading all of the problems that people are having, from firmware to failures, I'm not so sure anymore.

Agreed. I may buy two units up front so when the first one fails, I have the second one to hold me over. lol.
post #2404 of 5812
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Originally Posted by JBrax View Post


To be honest prior to choosing my receiver I did much Internet research and it seemed as though many people found the THX modes to sound the best. Having said that I really haven't messed around testing the various sound formats for myself. Maybe I should.

Tbh too, I don't think there can be much in it, I did listen to both with certain segments of films i knew well, and went with Straight Decode. I have no issue with THX preference really, but you wanted an opinion so I made a strong one to get the ball rolling. ;-)
post #2405 of 5812
So after a long time wanting and waiting I finally got around to installing an HDMI video card with 7.1 capabilities (XFX Radeon 6870 HD) into my HTPC and it's been nothing but grief for this receiver. After messing with various driver versions, (HDMI Audio included, Realtek drivers, etc.) I may be concluding that this receiver cannot handle this video card.

Problems I've been experiencing:
- When it was working, I was getting a "flicker" occasionally, sometimes after a reboot it would be frequently. Different drivers did not help
- Lately I can't even get colours to display properly, or even view anything on screen - this was due to trying out different drivers to fix my "flicker" issue
- I can't get DTS Master to output from PowerDVD/BD, even with the correct version. I can get DTS and DD to output fine though, and 7.1/192 khz seems to work in most cases

More details of my situation:
- I've turned all video and audio processing off on the receiver, HDMI control on/off, nothing helps.
- My TV works perfectly when connected directly to the HTPC using the exact same HDMI out
- Tried other ports, cables, no help
- I did reset the Onkyo once, not much help either

i know there is a lot of variables and potential fixes (been reading thru numerous forums for numerous issues) but I wanted to throw this out there in case anyone knows of any issues/fixes with the combination of Onkyo amp and Radeon 68xx HD series of cards.

Any help again appreciated. It'd really suck if i couldn't get this to work, been looking forward to 7.1 sound from my HTPC for a LONG time.
post #2406 of 5812
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post


Tbh too, I don't think there can be much in it, I did listen to both with certain segments of films i knew well, and went with Straight Decode. I have no issue with THX preference really, but you wanted an opinion so I made a strong one to get the ball rolling. ;-)

It's all good. You certainly seem to know your stuff and therefore an invaluable resource for many people here including myself.
post #2407 of 5812
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Originally Posted by JBrax View Post


It's all good. You certainly seem to know your stuff and therefore an invaluable resource for many people here including myself.

Youd think I had better things to do, like watching films! But truth is, the tv is shared, so this is better than Xfactor. I know some stuff, but beware when I venture into opinion territory.
post #2408 of 5812
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Originally Posted by azula View Post

Agreed. I may buy two units up front so when the first one fails, I have the second one to hold me over. lol.

Not many folks come to online forums and say how great there product is performing. Typically only those having configuration or other issues seek out an online forum and post their questions. So basically reading these forums and comparing the relative positive comments to the number of negative comments is a flawed approach and if I did that all the time, I would never buy anything.

That said, Onkyo has had quality issues - we all know that. We also know that HDMI is a problematic interface (can't wait for display port to take over). But I think that with the '09 line, things have gotten better.

If you are worried, do a search for the nearest repair facility and factor in the cost of getting it there for one visit.
post #2409 of 5812
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post


Youd think I had better things to do, like watching films! But truth is, the tv is shared, so this is better than Xfactor. I know some stuff, but beware when I venture into opinion territory.

You seem to have the owners manual memorized. You always seem to know exactly what pages to reference for questions.
post #2410 of 5812
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Originally Posted by JBrax View Post


You seem to have the owners manual memorized. You always seem to know exactly what pages to reference for questions.

Truth be told, I have iPad for ORemote and iPeng for Squeezebox (which I use a lot), so access to forum is never far from hand. And opening up the manual, checking index, snapping relevant page and posting an answer, takes only a minute or two.

I have leeched off forums for years, so a bit of give back, I guess.
post #2411 of 5812
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Originally Posted by azula View Post


Agreed. I may buy two units up front so when the first one fails, I have the second one to hold me over. lol.

A follow up on my replacement. Arrived the following day (Amazon is awesome!) and setup without a hitch. I'll wait my full 30 days before commenting in detail but upgrade from my Sony ES (10 years old) is mind blowing. Watched Dark Knight and I heard things I had never heard before.
post #2412 of 5812
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Originally Posted by razrsharp View Post

So after a long time wanting and waiting I finally got around to installing an HDMI video card with 7.1 capabilities (XFX Radeon 6870 HD) into my HTPC and it's been nothing but grief for this receiver. After messing with various driver versions, (HDMI Audio included, Realtek drivers, etc.) I may be concluding that this receiver cannot handle this video card.

Problems I've been experiencing:
- When it was working, I was getting a "flicker" occasionally, sometimes after a reboot it would be frequently. Different drivers did not help
- Lately I can't even get colours to display properly, or even view anything on screen - this was due to trying out different drivers to fix my "flicker" issue
- I can't get DTS Master to output from PowerDVD/BD, even with the correct version. I can get DTS and DD to output fine though, and 7.1/192 khz seems to work in most cases

More details of my situation:
- I've turned all video and audio processing off on the receiver, HDMI control on/off, nothing helps.
- My TV works perfectly when connected directly to the HTPC using the exact same HDMI out
- Tried other ports, cables, no help
- I did reset the Onkyo once, not much help either

i know there is a lot of variables and potential fixes (been reading thru numerous forums for numerous issues) but I wanted to throw this out there in case anyone knows of any issues/fixes with the combination of Onkyo amp and Radeon 68xx HD series of cards.

Any help again appreciated. It'd really suck if i couldn't get this to work, been looking forward to 7.1 sound from my HTPC for a LONG time.

Know nothing about your card but I have a 440 and it took multiple driver installs and reboots to get it to work properly. Probably would have been best to nuke the aching and start from scratch.
post #2413 of 5812
^^ I pretty much did install from scratch - it was a card replacement to an older Nvidia card. I started by removing all the Nvidia drivers & apps, then installed all the new ATI stuff. The only complex thing I tried to do was downgrade the drivers, and I did go back & forth with the ATI / Realtek HDMI audio drivers.

What types of problems were you experiencing before you fixed it?
post #2414 of 5812
Just hooked up the front heights for 7.1 and OMG what a transformation from 5.1. I took my mains off the stand and dropped them to the floor in the corners then mounted the slightly smaller front height directly above them in the corners. Re-ran audyssey using only 3 point cal (I only have one couch to watch from) and it sounds amazing now. Mind you I still prefer to increase the sub level from what calibrated 0 sounds like. Movies are now imerssive and that was the whole intent. 125" 16:9 1080p doesn't hurt either haha

For the record I'm only running an HTPC with a blueray drive and the 809. That's really all you need unless you're a gamer.
post #2415 of 5812
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Originally Posted by Barn01 View Post

Just hooked up the front heights for 7.1 and OMG what a transformation from 5.1. I took my mains off the stand and dropped them to the floor in the corners then mounted the slightly smaller front height directly above them in the corners. Re-ran audyssey using only 3 point cal (I only have one couch to watch from) and it sounds amazing now. Mind you I still prefer to increase the sub level from what calibrated 0 sounds like. Movies are now imerssive and that was the whole intent. 125" 16:9 1080p doesn't hurt either haha

For the record I'm only running an HTPC with a blueray drive and the 809. That's really all you need unless you're a gamer.

Have you been able to get DTS-MA or other "true" 7.1 source from your HTPC to your Onkyo? If so how did you do it?
post #2416 of 5812
Yesterday I decided to do my 2nd firmware update, via the internet as the first time it worked just fine. I had been having HDMI handshake issues and was going to redo my Audessy anyway, so I did a system reset before starting the update (also to reset any conflicting settings that interfere with updates).

My receiver is connected to my internet via Cat5>Switch>Modem.

The download quickly got to 67% and hung there for nearly 45mins. Left with 2 options, wait *forever* or shut it down, I chose to shut it down.

It came back up fine, but I had NO sound output at all from any source. An additional system reset fixed this. I decided NOT to attempt the update again. I think I will wait for the next update to try again.

Oddly enough, my previous issue with my Cable Box toggling resolutions for minutes before (occasionally) working has ceased -However I have not re-enabled CEC/RHID/ARC functions. I also noticed the ONKYO splash screen, and the "HDMI Start-Up" on the LCD display, and I don't recall that from before... Maybe I shut that off in my previous set-up??

Should I assume that powering off during a stuck download is not a big deal, as opposed to during installation?

Should I just update via USB to be certain of proper install?

Was my assumption of sys reset prior to update would put the AVR in the right state for proper update install?
post #2417 of 5812
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Originally Posted by Barn01 View Post

Just hooked up the front heights for 7.1 and OMG what a transformation from 5.1. I took my mains off the stand and dropped them to the floor in the corners then mounted the slightly smaller front height directly above them in the corners. Re-ran audyssey using only 3 point cal (I only have one couch to watch from) and it sounds amazing now. Mind you I still prefer to increase the sub level from what calibrated 0 sounds like. Movies are now imerssive and that was the whole intent. 125" 16:9 1080p doesn't hurt either haha

For the record I'm only running an HTPC with a blueray drive and the 809. That's really all you need unless you're a gamer.

It is still recommended to follow the Audyssey Guidelines, ref 8 mic positions. The calculation of the filters for compensating for your room will be much improved, and might even improve the Sub you re-adjust for later.
post #2418 of 5812
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Originally Posted by Barn01 View Post

I took my mains off the stand and dropped them to the floor in the corners ....

Why? There's no reason to have to relocate the front mains when adding front heights .... and certainly not to the floor.

You may want to consider adding another sub and placing the front mains atop each sub with the center on one of the stands.
post #2419 of 5812
I had noted where people were using the TP-Link TL-WN722N to replace the Onkyo wifi dongle (which has a very poor range, btw). Can someone tell me how this works?

Connect to the Router, sync and then disconnect and connect to the 809 or is there something else I need to know? Any help is appreciated.
Jim Cummings
post #2420 of 5812
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Originally Posted by jimcummings View Post

I had noted where people were using the TP-Link TL-WN722N to replace the Onkyo wifi dongle (which has a very poor range, btw). Can someone tell me how this works?

Connect to the Router, sync and then disconnect and connect to the 809 or is there something else I need to know? Any help is appreciated.
Jim Cummings

Are you implying you bought the Onkyo dongle and unhappy with the range? The recommendation, by Onkyo, is to wire the Network connection, but if you wish to try a second dongle, the one you reference was recommended on these forums. But then a further poster had issues with it.

Your description on what to do with it doesn't seem correct to me. I am not sure what you mean by "Sync, disconnect and reconnect".

I would have just connected the dongle direct to the 809 and set up from there. There is no direct ref to wifi dongle in the manual.
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post #2421 of 5812
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Originally Posted by jimcummings View Post

I had noted where people were using the TP-Link TL-WN722N to replace the Onkyo wifi dongle (which has a very poor range, btw). Can someone tell me how this works?

Connect to the Router, sync and then disconnect and connect to the 809 or is there something else I need to know? Any help is appreciated.
Jim Cummings

I am using the TP-Link Wifi Dongle. It has a rather large high gain antennae that is plugged in the back usb port.

My streaming is about perfect...highly recommend over the stock no signal usb. Plus the TP-Link we way cheap.

As for how it works...just plug into usb port and turn her on. My connected automatically when I went to the NET input...took a minute or two the first time to acquire ip address, etc. then good to go.
post #2422 of 5812
Hi, just joined and have a question. I purchased a Tx-Nr809 from Amazon on Saturday and hoping it gets here this week. My question is should I update the Firmware before doing anything else? I read that the firmware update is better if done with an ethernet cable instead of using my wireless network?

Thanks for the replies.

Joe
post #2423 of 5812
In RE: the TP-Link W722N
Just what I wanted to know. Many thanx.
As for the questions from Wl 1, the Onkyo dongle worked very poorly, while sitting in a cabinet with other WI-FI connnected components working fine. Signal kept dropping and tech support indicated "some have range problems."

The TP_Link manual indicates you may have to configure it but toofast68 has the actual experience so I'm good now. Thanx all.

Jim
post #2424 of 5812
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Originally Posted by joereask View Post

Hi, just joined and have a question. I purchased a Tx-Nr809 from Amazon on Saturday and hoping it gets here this week. My question is should I update the Firmware before doing anything else? I read that the firmware update is better if done with an ethernet cable instead of using my wireless network?

Thanks for the replies.

Joe

I did firmware 1st, before ANYTHING, used ethernet vs. wireless. Then hooked up wireless and unit has been flawless so far. Highly recommend hard wired firmware update.
post #2425 of 5812
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Originally Posted by jimcummings View Post

In RE: the TP-Link W722N
Just what I wanted to know. Many thanx.
As for the questions from Wl 1, the Onkyo dongle worked very poorly, while sitting in a cabinet with other WI-FI connnected components working fine. Signal kept dropping and tech support indicated "some have range problems."

The TP_Link manual indicates you may have to configure it but toofast68 has the actual experience so I'm good now. Thanx all.

Jim

Yep, I read that too...but then research told me it was the SAME chipset as stock, just with a different housing and nice antennae. So figured nothing to do, and YEP presto is worked.
post #2426 of 5812
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Originally Posted by toofast68 View Post

I did firmware 1st, before ANYTHING, used ethernet vs. wireless. Then hooked up wireless and unit has been flawless so far. Highly recommend hard wired firmware update.

The manual gives an explanation about how to check and see if your receiver is up to date or not. I assume it is possible to check the firmware without doing anything else first? I am so excited to be getting this 809. I am currently using a HTIB Onkyo HT-SR800. Can you guys recommend some speakers to get for the surround ? TIA

JOE
post #2427 of 5812
For any of you who are having issues with the Onkyo Wi-Fi adapter and can't hardwire your Onkyo....

I would suggest getting a wireless bridge or a Power Lan - type adapter to get a signal to the Ethernet port.

This is one of the Wi-Fi bridges I have, it's about 30% smaller than a deck of playing cards:

ASUS WL-330GE

It's actually on sale for $20 (after MIR) right now:

http://www.buy.com/prod/asus-wl-330g...205469663.html

Other than the fact that this is sure to get a better signal then a little USB stick - you can place this on the outside of a cabinet, or really as far away as you care to run cabling (Assuming, of course, that you can't run cabling all the way ).
post #2428 of 5812
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Originally Posted by joereask View Post

Hi, just joined and have a question. I purchased a Tx-Nr809 from Amazon on Saturday and hoping it gets here this week. My question is should I update the Firmware before doing anything else? I read that the firmware update is better if done with an ethernet cable instead of using my wireless network?

Thanks for the replies.

Joe

Yes! Absolutely do the update first. As to method in theory it shouldn't matter but some have had problems. I did mine with the Onkyo wireless adaptor without any issues.
post #2429 of 5812
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Originally Posted by JBrax View Post

Yes! Absolutely do the update first. As to method in theory it shouldn't matter but some have had problems. I did mine with the Onkyo wireless adaptor without any issues.

Most would advise to avoid firmware updates to devices over WiFi if at all possible. That's an over-generalization, but it is good advice as a general rule of thumb.
post #2430 of 5812
Just to let everyone know there is a new firmware update that just showed up a few minutes ago.
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