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post #2521 of 5256
12/27/11 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by ghostnotes View Post

Strange....

I see .net version 2.0.5027 for 64 and 32 bit but no .Net3.5

Again, because 3.5 is bundled with Windows 7 (read my post above). 2.0 is not bundled, so if you installed it separately it will list in your Programs. Best to use the verified program I linked above to enumerate and test the versions you have installed.

.Net framework can be a messy beast if it gets corrupted. In order to fix it you often need to remove every version you have using a variety of means and then reinstall. This can sometimes break other programs as well. The good news is that I rarely see a system that requires this (maybe less than .05%).

The blog site that the verifier tool is on above has resources for fixing .Net.

I don't know your full issue, but just because you are not seeing something listed doesn't mean it isn't there or is broken. Run the verifier tool and if it shows that your .NET is ok then start looking elsewhere.

More info on .NET Versions
Unified .NET Framework Troubleshooting Guide
Additional .NET troubleshooting steps
.NET cleanup tool
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post #2522 of 5256
12/27/11 at 2:04pm
Ok then,

I ran windows update as well and it found an update for it but at the moment my son and his friends have taken over my drum room. I will check in after i see what it does.
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post #2523 of 5256
12/27/11 at 2:11pm
I just tried to install it on my wifes laptop win 7/32 and the same exact error. This is pretty much a fresh install with all updates.
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post #2524 of 5256
12/27/11 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by ghostnotes View Post

I just tried to install it on my wifes laptop win 7/32 and the same exact error. This is pretty much a fresh install with all updates.

I just went back and read a few threads so I know exactly what you are trying to do.

I just downloaded the app from http://blog.krautsourced.com/?page_id=284 on my Win 7/64 system and other than a Windows Firewall prompt to allow the port, it ran without issue.

I don't suspect the error you are getting about being an invaild Win32 application is due to a .NET issue. As others have mentioned you probably have:

1) a corrupted download
2) a virus or malware

If you have anti-virus or similar software that may be scanning your browser it could be corrupting the download as well. If you use the same programs on all your systems, then it might not be unlikely that it is doing this on both of them.

So, it may be either a helpful or a harmful program that is impacting it.

Let's try this:

1) Download the following file integrity checker from MS:
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en....aspx?id=11533

2) Extract it to a folder (e.g. c:\\checksum).

3) Download the latest version of the Oyremote from here:
http://www.krautsourced.com/files/so...mote.0.17a.exe

4) Go to a command prompt and run the fciv.exe tool from MS against the oyremote. It will look like this:
C:\\checksum>fciv.exe C:\\Users\\ben\\Downloads\\oyremote.0.17a.exe
//
// File Checksum Integrity Verifier version 2.05.
//
d6f08bcbad8f113551e310d550a50994 c:\\users\\ben\\downloads\\oyremote.0.17a.exe The part I underline is the checksum. It should be exactly the same on your system. If it isn't, the file is corrupt. The trick then is figuring out what corrupted it. If it isn't corrupt, then something is interfering with it running.
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post #2525 of 5256
12/27/11 at 3:23pm
Joy is gone in 809:

Well I contacted support and they admit there is an issue with the rear usb port and wireless connectivity.

They have NO CLUE if it will get fixed, just they know it is an issue. Have no idea if hardware or software....

So it looks like I am screwed...

Looks like my only choice is to return and try to find a comparable before my 30 day Amazon return expires. What a bummer...so many little issues with this receiver.
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post #2526 of 5256
12/27/11 at 3:40pm
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Originally Posted by toofast68 View Post


I am using the TP-Link Wifi Dongle. It has a rather large high gain antennae that is plugged in the back usb port.

My streaming is about perfect...highly recommend over the stock no signal usb. Plus the TP-Link we way cheap.

As for how it works...just plug into usb port and turn her on. My connected automatically when I went to the NET input...took a minute or two the first time to acquire ip address, etc. then good to go.

So what are the new issues?
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post #2527 of 5256
12/27/11 at 3:53pm
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

So what are the new issues?

Hehe...so I guess once you turn it OFF and Unplug, it never comes back.

I can get the front USB to connect, but no longer the REAR USB port. As I mentioned, support said, yeah we know...have no idea when or how we will fix it.

Would not tell me they would fix it past the 30 day warranty either....so I guess I have no choice but to return.

For anyone that bought this lately...make sure ALL the stuff you really need works...power down, un plug - plug back in etc.
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post #2528 of 5256
12/27/11 at 5:47pm
Sorry if this has been asked before, I did read through the last month's posts, however I didn't see this mentioned. Is the on screen display for the 809 only presented through the HDMI output, or does it also display via the component output?

Thanks in advance,
TC
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post #2529 of 5256
12/27/11 at 6:15pm
As I understand it the OSD only comes through hdmi main.
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post #2530 of 5256
12/27/11 at 6:52pm
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Originally Posted by TC_Lauderdale View Post

Sorry if this has been asked before, I did read through the last month's posts, however I didn't see this mentioned. Is the on screen display for the 809 only presented through the HDMI output, or does it also display via the component output?

Thanks in advance,
TC

100% confirmed only through hdmi
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post #2531 of 5256
12/27/11 at 8:05pm
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Originally Posted by TC_Lauderdale View Post

Sorry if this has been asked before, I did read through the last month's posts, however I didn't see this mentioned. Is the on screen display for the 809 only presented through the HDMI output, or does it also display via the component output?

Thanks in advance,
TC

Not to be picky, but I posted this less than 2 weeks ago - so you must have only read through the last week's worth of posts

Anyway, that link above will show you exactly where in the manual it states that it is HDMI main only.
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post #2532 of 5256
12/27/11 at 8:12pm
So....

Nobody's tested whether the 809 recognizes DTS-MA 5.1 ES in bitstream?
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post #2533 of 5256
12/27/11 at 8:56pm
I am having an issue that i am having trouble figuring out and I am hoping the community can help me out.

I have a Mac Mini hooked up via HDMI to a Onkyo TX-NR809 receiver and then on to a Sharp LCD46D64U TV via HDMI. Most of the time i have the sound output from the Mini via HDMI 6.1 channels to the receiver. This works great. Occasionally at night, i would like to watch tv/movies via a pair of bluetooth headphones i have.

Question: Is there a good way to hook up a Bluetooth Transmitter to the Onkyo so that i can listen to movies/tv via the bluetooth headphones?

I havent found a good way to hook up the Bluetooth transmitter and allow me to switch back and forth between HDMI and the Bluetooth Transmitter. Does anyone have any suggestions on how i can accomplish this?
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post #2534 of 5256
12/27/11 at 9:26pm
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Originally Posted by dhartung02 View Post

Question: Is there a good way to hook up a Bluetooth Transmitter to the Onkyo so that i can listen to movies/tv via the bluetooth headphones?

I havent found a good way to hook up the Bluetooth transmitter and allow me to switch back and forth between HDMI and the Bluetooth Transmitter. Does anyone have any suggestions on how i can accomplish this?

AFAIK you can only output via speakers... I'm not sure how your BT transmitter connects, but I will assume it is usb?

I think the easiest way is to connect the transmitter directly to the mini. I see no reason to run it through the Onkyo. You may have to switch the output on the mini.

I'm also assuming here your mac is the htpc with all the sources in it? If you are trying to get video from your tv using ARC back to your receiver and then out via a transmitter I have no idea how you would do that. Perhaps there is a specialty converter...maybe someone else knows...
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post #2535 of 5256
12/27/11 at 9:27pm
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Originally Posted by dhartung02 View Post

I am having an issue that i am having trouble figuring out and I am hoping the community can help me out.

I have a Mac Mini hooked up via HDMI to a Onkyo TX-NR809 receiver and then on to a Sharp LCD46D64U TV via HDMI. Most of the time i have the sound output from the Mini via HDMI 6.1 channels to the receiver. This works great. Occasionally at night, i would like to watch tv/movies via a pair of bluetooth headphones i have.

Question: Is there a good way to hook up a Bluetooth Transmitter to the Onkyo so that i can listen to movies/tv via the bluetooth headphones?

I havent found a good way to hook up the Bluetooth transmitter and allow me to switch back and forth between HDMI and the Bluetooth Transmitter. Does anyone have any suggestions on how i can accomplish this?

How about this:
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...umber=HWSBTA2W
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post #2536 of 5256
12/27/11 at 9:29pm
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Originally Posted by Bengalih View Post

AFAIK you can only output via speakers... I'm not sure how your BT transmitter connects, but I will assume it is usb?

I think the easiest way is to connect the transmitter directly to the mini. I see no reason to run it through the Onkyo. You may have to switch the output on the mini.

I'm also assuming here your mac is the htpc with all the sources in it? If you are trying to get video from your tv using ARC back to your receiver and then out via a transmitter I have no idea how you would do that. Perhaps there is a specialty converter...maybe someone else knows...

it connects via red/white RCA Plugs or through a stereo mini plug. Yes, the mini is a HTPC with all of the sources. The problem is that i havent found a good way to switch back and forth between this transmitter and the HDMI.
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post #2537 of 5256
12/27/11 at 9:30pm
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Originally Posted by SeeingWhite View Post

How about this:
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...umber=HWSBTA2W

I am using something similar....

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...7BBTkwCjCECjCE
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post #2538 of 5256
12/27/11 at 9:32pm
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Originally Posted by dhartung02 View Post

it connects via red/white RCA Plugs or through a stereo mini plug. Yes, the mini is a HTPC with all of the sources. The problem is that i havent found a good way to switch back and forth between this transmitter and the HDMI.

How about like discussed in this thread?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1338337
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post #2539 of 5256
12/27/11 at 9:45pm
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Originally Posted by SeeingWhite View Post

How about like discussed in this thread?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1338337

So after reading that, it sounds like the Zone 2 wont output the audio being transmitted from the Mac Mini via HDMI. Is that correct? If so, that wont work in my situation.

Is it determined that the multichannel pre-outs will work for this function even though i have speakers hooked up to those posts?
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post #2540 of 5256
12/27/11 at 10:21pm
I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but how can I get my S-video inputs to go out from HDMI?

I have the following hooked up to my receiver:
BluRay Player - HDMI
PS3 - HDMI
Xbox 360 - HDMI
HD-DVD - HDMI

Dreamcast - S-Video
Gamecube - S-Video

I've read the manual and I figured its saying not to use the same labeled input for HDMI and S-video at the same time. For Example: Don't use Game HDMI and put in an S-Video connection in Game as well since you can only use one of those...

I removed the HDMI connection from game and tried to get a picture to display from S-Video (I disabled HDMI input for Game to -------)

Any suggestions? Thanks!
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post #2541 of 5256
12/27/11 at 10:48pm
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Originally Posted by dhartung02 View Post

So after reading that, it sounds like the Zone 2 wont output the audio being transmitted from the Mac Mini via HDMI. Is that correct? If so, that wont work in my situation.

Is it determined that the multichannel pre-outs will work for this function even though i have speakers hooked up to those posts?

Unless i am missing a setting or something, Zone 2 will definitely not output anything being transmitted via HDMI. Also, i could not get any sound from the R/L multi-channel pre-outs. Is there something you have to do to get them to output sound?
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post #2542 of 5256
12/27/11 at 10:53pm
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Originally Posted by dhartung02 View Post

Unless i am missing a setting or something, Zone 2 will definitely not output anything being transmitted via HDMI. Also, i could not get any sound from the R/L multi-channel pre-outs. Is there something you have to do to get them to output sound?

I'm not sure, but I think you are right that Zone 2 will not directly output from an hdmi source. Hopefully one of the more knowledgeable members will confirm later today one way or the other.
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post #2543 of 5256
12/27/11 at 11:03pm
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Originally Posted by dhartung02 View Post

Unless i am missing a setting or something, Zone 2 will definitely not output anything being transmitted via HDMI. Also, i could not get any sound from the R/L multi-channel pre-outs. Is there something you have to do to get them to output sound?

Hi dhartung02, read page 68 in OM.

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Only analog input sources are output by the ZONE 2/3
PRE/LINE OUT and FRONT WIDE/ZONE 2 L/R terminals.
Digital input sources are not output. If no sound is heard when
an input source is selected, verify that the source is connected to
an analog input.
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post #2544 of 5256
12/27/11 at 11:05pm
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi dhartung02, read page 68 in OM.

Thanks, That confirms why i dont hear anything via the Zone 2 outputs. The question still remains about the L/R Multichannel Pre-outs. I tested them on both FM radio and on HDMI audio and didnt get any output via either source. Thus me questions a settings or its true function....
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post #2545 of 5256
12/28/11 at 2:16am
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Originally Posted by toofast68 View Post

Well Yes and Yes

If you dont want audyssey to manage the sub, just unplug while configuring.

Not sure why you DON'T though, you can always turn the sub up later if you want more.

Audessey for me crashes during the sub test. Sub is working normally and you get the 75 DB calibration tone but after that when it comes to the sub no issue and the program crashes. Was there ever a fix for this issue with the receiver? happened to both 709 and 809 owners.
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post #2546 of 5256
12/28/11 at 3:38am
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Originally Posted by oqvist View Post


Audessey for me crashes during the sub test. Sub is working normally and you get the 75 DB calibration tone but after that when it comes to the sub no issue and the program crashes. Was there ever a fix for this issue with the receiver? happened to both 709 and 809 owners.

I have never heard of this before - what happens when it "crashes"?
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post #2547 of 5256
12/28/11 at 5:25am
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Originally Posted by Bengalih View Post

I just went back and read a few threads so I know exactly what you are trying to do.

I just downloaded the app from http://blog.krautsourced.com/?page_id=284 on my Win 7/64 system and other than a Windows Firewall prompt to allow the port, it ran without issue.

I don't suspect the error you are getting about being an invaild Win32 application is due to a .NET issue. As others have mentioned you probably have:

1) a corrupted download
2) a virus or malware

If you have anti-virus or similar software that may be scanning your browser it could be corrupting the download as well. If you use the same programs on all your systems, then it might not be unlikely that it is doing this on both of them.

So, it may be either a helpful or a harmful program that is impacting it.

Let's try this:

1) Download the following file integrity checker from MS:
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en....aspx?id=11533

2) Extract it to a folder (e.g. c:\\checksum).

3) Download the latest version of the Oyremote from here:
http://www.krautsourced.com/files/so...mote.0.17a.exe

4) Go to a command prompt and run the fciv.exe tool from MS against the oyremote. It will look like this:
C:\\checksum>fciv.exe C:\\Users\\ben\\Downloads\\oyremote.0.17a.exe
//
// File Checksum Integrity Verifier version 2.05.
//
d6f08bcbad8f113551e310d550a50994 c:\\users\\ben\\downloads\\oyremote.0.17a.exe The part I underline is the checksum. It should be exactly the same on your system. If it isn't, the file is corrupt. The trick then is figuring out what corrupted it. If it isn't corrupt, then something is interfering with it running.

I tried what you said but there are some issues:
1. I do not have a checksum that i can see
2. It was not in a zip form so i just d/l to my desktop and tried C:\\checksum>fciv.exe C:\\Users\\DADSDESKTOP\\Downloads\\oyremote.0.17a.exe but noting happened
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post #2548 of 5256
12/28/11 at 7:36am
Ok, so I HATE that I am posting this question...but I am at my wits end.

How support tells me I MUST have a bad unit and the other support guy has NO IDEA what he is talking about...meaning they claim the USB R Port should be working.

I am already tired of these issues, I was warned by a few friends these units are buggy and WOW.

Anyways...does anyone know of a "similar" non-onkyo product that has the features of the 809? Or is this unit really all that exists? I have no problem paying a few dollars more if the dang thing is just reliable.

Thanks in advance!
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post #2549 of 5256
12/28/11 at 7:44am
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Originally Posted by toofast68 View Post

Ok, so I HATE that I am posting this question...but I am at my wits end.

How support tells me I MUST have a bad unit and the other support guy has NO IDEA what he is talking about...meaning they claim the USB R Port should be working.

I am already tired of these issues, I was warned by a few friends these units are buggy and WOW.

Anyways...does anyone know of a "similar" non-onkyo product that has the features of the 809? Or is this unit really all that exists? I have no problem paying a few dollars more if the dang thing is just reliable.

Thanks in advance!

Did you do a complete factory reset? I would not sending my Amp back just because wireless doesn't work (when Onkyo Manual recommends Wired anyway). Get yourself a Powerline Adaptor, or Wireless bridge, or some other solution to resolve. Like Wired!

I am sure there many other AVR's with similar capability, but you will need to do a proper comparison of the feature sets important to you to make a decision. And probably pay more. Best of luck.
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post #2550 of 5256
12/28/11 at 7:49am
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

Did you do a complete factory reset? I would not sending my Amp back just because wireless doesn't work (when Onkyo Manual recommends Wired anyway). Get yourself a Powerline Adaptor, or Wireless bridge, or some other solution to resolve. Like Wired!

I am sure there many other AVR's with similar capability, but you will need to do a proper comparison of the feature sets important to you to make a decision. And probably pay more. Best of luck.

Dang, I love this FORUM.

Funny thing is the FACTORY reset really is not a COMPLETE reset.

Meaning once I got the USB Modem connected to the front port, AFTER a reset, I could log into sirius with NO USER SETUP, so the UNIT somehow remembered my OLD setup. Strange...support had no explanation for that.

However I guess I could get an adaptor of some sort to go from wireless to wired. I honestly forgot those existed.

Perhaps I will do some more research...do you have a device in mind that you could recommend ?
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