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post #331 of 5812
Well, decided on the 809 ordered from OneCall after reading up on all the different receivers for last 5 days they all seem to have their own problems.My 705 has had no problems in 5 years gets a little warm but it only has 3 inches above.
post #332 of 5812
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Originally Posted by neworder71 View Post
So switching between 5.1+2 to 7.1 isn't as easy as one would hope...meaning I should be able to turn on Z2 and the main room should drop to 5.1 and vice versa.

Instead you have to go into speaker setting select powered zone 2 "yes" and it will auto turn off your 6th and 7th channel. But to come back not only do you have to set powered Z2 to off but also select which 6th and 7th to turn on (height, wide or back) and then select their crossover point. As far as I can tell it doesn't remember my 6th and 7th channel settings. If somebody knows how to make it remember please chime in.
Ugghhh thats disappointing news. 809 is supposed to be here Tuesday. I was hoping this would be an easier process. I guess i may have to get a separate 2 channel amp with 12v trigger turn on to meet my zone 2 needs.

I know Yamaha has this "intelligent" amp functionality to turn on/off zone 2 and 7.1/5.1. Do any other receivers have that functionality?
post #333 of 5812
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Originally Posted by dhartung02 View Post
Ugghhh thats disappointing news. 809 is supposed to be here Tuesday. I was hoping this would be an easier process. I guess i may have to get a separate 2 channel amp with 12v trigger turn on to meet my zone 2 needs.

I know Yamaha has this "intelligent" amp functionality to turn on/off zone 2 and 7.1/5.1. Do any other receivers have that functionality?
Yeah I "solved" it with my old receiver on Z2. It is an old Tx-Ds747, I discoved that while it doesn't have a 12v trigger, it does have an intelligent power management feature on it's video 3 were any signal via those RCA will flip it on and then once signal stops it goes to standby after 5 mins.

In the long run, a separate amp is better.
post #334 of 5812
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Originally Posted by yellowcanary73 View Post
Well, decided on the 809 ordered from OneCall after reading up on all the different receivers for last 5 days they all seem to have their own problems.My 705 has had no problems in 5 years gets a little warm but it only has 3 inches above.
I too, had a 705 for a couple years, can't complain much about it. I've had a few receivers since then too, but also just bought an 809 for the insanely good prices and I really like it so far.
post #335 of 5812
Yea 2nd or 3rd room on receivers is retarded. It's so much hassle no receiver should have it, its complete waste of tech on the unit. Totally remove it and give 9 or 11 channels and be done with it. Buy a cheap one for your patio's or whatever people hehe.

PS that onkyo app to control with PC is AWESOME. SOOOO easy to change hdmi main and sub now I laugh when I do it. I use HTPC 100% of time I no longer need a remote.
post #336 of 5812
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Originally Posted by hdtv00 View Post

Yea 2nd or 3rd room on receivers is retarded. It's so much hassle no receiver should have it, its complete waste of tech on the unit. Totally remove it and give 9 or 11 channels and be done with it. Buy a cheap one for your patio's or whatever people hehe.

PS that onkyo app to control with PC is AWESOME. SOOOO easy to change hdmi main and sub now I laugh when I do it. I use HTPC 100% of time I no longer need a remote.

What app is that for a PC. I have the iphone app, didn't see a PC app.
post #337 of 5812
Pretty excited about getting the 809 this week. The whole setup is getting a big upgrade. Going from a Kenwood VR-7070 to the Onkyo 809. Replacing my Pioneer bookshelfs and HTiB center with Polks Monitor60 and CS2 that are currently on sale at Newegg. Its going to be like a whole new living room.

For the past 2 months we have been using the built in tv speakers. I sold my kenwood on craigslist and have been waiting for a good deal on everything. Finally found it.
post #338 of 5812
I just received a pair of Aperion Versus Grand Towers and a Versus Grand Center to complement my Hsu STF-2 sub and Athena surrounds (just 5.1). I have an Onkyo NR901 which has worked flawlessly for the over 7 years I have had it.

Would the 809 be a worthwhile upgrade?

Thanks for the input. For us Washingtonians, looks like JR and Vanns are the two places at $699 (tax with Amazon).
post #339 of 5812
Here is the App its GREAT , you'll see.
http://blog.krautsourced.com/?page_id=284
post #340 of 5812
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Originally Posted by neworder71 View Post

This is a separate Z2 question from the one above. Is it possible to turn off the main room while Z2 or Z3 is playing?

I have pandora playing in Z2 and the main room wants to play, all I can do to stop it is mute or switch to an unused input.

I have no clue as I haven't switched yet, but on my old Denon 790 I'm migrating from it took forever to figure it out, and it turned out with Zone2 playing, I pressed the power button and the mains shut off. Who knows if its similar on the Onkyo but the Denon manual didn't say squat.

This Z2 switching business is disappointing, as it sound exactly as difficult as my Denon is. I guess I'm destined to have two amps.
post #341 of 5812
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Originally Posted by fcastle View Post

I just received a pair of Aperion Versus Grand Towers and a Versus Grand Center to complement my Hsu STF-2 sub and Athena surrounds (just 5.1). I have an Onkyo NR901 which has worked flawlessly for the over 7 years I have had it.

Would the 809 be a worthwhile upgrade?

Thanks for the input. For us Washingtonians, looks like JR and Vanns are the two places at $699 (tax with Amazon).

I guess I couldn't say for sure how the sound quality would compare to your older unit. It will probably be similar. But, with the 809 you're getting all the latest tech. HDMI inputs and all the new high-def codecs, networking, too much stuff to list that your older unit does not have. Well worth the upgrade, in my opinion. Especially considering the amazing prices on the 809 right now!!!
post #342 of 5812
Any rumors on Onkyo adding Airplay in the future? That is the only thing holding me back right now.
post #343 of 5812
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Originally Posted by ryankenn View Post


I have no clue as I haven't switched yet, but on my old Denon 790 I'm migrating from it took forever to figure it out, and it turned out with Zone2 playing, I pressed the power button and the mains shut off. Who knows if its similar on the Onkyo but the Denon manual didn't say squat.

This Z2 switching business is disappointing, as it sound exactly as difficult as my Denon is. I guess I'm destined to have two amps.

If you're handy with a PC you can probably write a script to do the zone switch dance using the PC app linked to in this thread.
post #344 of 5812
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Originally Posted by n8gray View Post

If you're handy with a PC you can probably write a script to do the zone switch dance using the PC app linked to in this thread.

I need a Mac app to do it....I dont have any PC's in the house.
post #345 of 5812
got mine setup 3.1 right now running old sony towers/cadence center/cadence Xsub have ps3/xbox 360/sammy blu ray/cox hddvr ran audyssey a few times with diff positions of sub,

overall sounds really good for my ears, this coming from a JVC i purchased in 1999, its amazing what technology has changed

only issue i had that another person posted was that when i was using all HDMI and using pass through, when the TV was on and i powered up the Blu Ray it took over, that is fine and dandy just like i wanted, well when i power down the BR player it doesnt go back to TV automatically, i had to power up the AVR switch to TV then power down AVR to get it to pass through, same thing when i fired up the xbox

not a big deal at all though, doesnt really bother me much

about what volume do you guys listen to movies/music on your avr? i had mine on about 60-65 last night during a movie and sounded fine, anything under that was not loud enough, seems like i had to turn it up too much to hear it?
post #346 of 5812
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Originally Posted by n8gray View Post

If you're handy with a PC you can probably write a script to do the zone switch dance using the PC app linked to in this thread.

I hack databases for a living so while not a hardcore coder I could probably handle it. Any tips to write such a thing?

Thanks!
post #347 of 5812
I'm contemplating getting the 809 but don't have a HDMI compatible TV. It'll be connected via Component, so I won't be able to use the on-screen menus. Anybody know how easy it is to use via the front panel LCD? In particular how easy Audyssey is to setup via it?

Mark.
post #348 of 5812
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Originally Posted by neworder71 View Post

I hack databases for a living so while not a hardcore coder I could probably handle it. Any tips to write such a thing?

Thanks!

Are you the one who planted Trojans on my computer?
post #349 of 5812
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Originally Posted by neworder71 View Post

I hack databases for a living so while not a hardcore coder I could probably handle it. Any tips to write such a thing?

Thanks!

LOL. If someone wrote that app, I would pay $10 for it. Although it wouldn't help my wife unless someone makes a Harmony remote that can run Windows 7 Mobile and she could just press a button to run that app from the remote.

I find half of my hi-tech purchases ( unfortunately ) have to take into account how my wife will view them for ease of use.
post #350 of 5812
What are the chances anyone has done, or will be doing a power output test of this to get real world results? Onkyo has a really wide spectrum of results, the "Home Theater" test of the 609 was what really pushed my to think this unit would be great for output, as they tested all 7 channels at .1%/8 ohm and got a whopping 77.7 watts per channel, which is impressiveon considering its rated at 100 wpc.

But then I read a review of the 509 which is rated at 80 wpc and in Sound and Vision but it can only muster 28 wpc into 5 channels. Even the former flagship 5008 only measured 78.7 wpc into 7 channels when its rated at 145.

I understand that power isn't the end all, be all, and how its delivered plays a part, but it really weird to me to have such wide varying real world output compared to the rated outputs, and I wonder where the 809 falls in relation to its rated 135 wpc. Closer to the superb 609 measurements ( in relation to rated ) or a less than stellar 509 or 5008 ( in relation again ).
post #351 of 5812
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Originally Posted by dhartung02 View Post

I need a Mac app to do it....I dont have any PC's in the house.

There is one for ipad or iphone does the same thing, maybe you can use that instead.
post #352 of 5812
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Originally Posted by simpleHT View Post

Are you the one who planted Trojans on my computer?

No, why would you're computer need condoms?
post #353 of 5812
Its very easy. I setup Audyssey on my 808 through the TV display, with the 809 I just used the front panel of the receiver. The only difference is after the setup is done, its easier to access the information on EQ changes through your TV with the remote.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Badger View Post

I'm contemplating getting the 809 but don't have a HDMI compatible TV. It'll be connected via Component, so I won't be able to use the on-screen menus. Anybody know how easy it is to use via the front panel LCD? In particular how easy Audyssey is to setup via it?

Mark.
post #354 of 5812
OK, just set up my new 809 (big upgrade from an old H/K).

My first "issue" has to do with resolution changes from my cable box. When changing channels on the cable box and the resolution changes from say a 1080 HD picture to a 480 SD picture there is a significant delay (3 seconds or so) from when the channel change is initiated to when the picture is actually displayed on the TV. The delay is long enough for the TV to think that there is no signal and will display that there is no signal for a moment, then the picture will appear.

I am using HDMI from the cable box to the receiver and from the receiver to the TV. My old H/K had no HDMI so all of this used to be done through component.

I have also set the HDMI setting on the receiver to Through but the delay exists...

Is this "just the way it is"? Should I go back to component from the cable box to the receiver (I.e. is this this a handshaking issue when changing resolutions)?

Thanks All...
post #355 of 5812
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Originally Posted by dhartung02 View Post

I need a Mac app to do it....I dont have any PC's in the house.

In that case you'll need to write your own app and then send me a copy. I don't have any PCs either.

Actually, if you're hardcore it looks like you can run that app using Mono, but don't ask me how that's done.

http://www.krautsourced.com/?p=149

http://www.mono-project.com/Mono:OSX
post #356 of 5812
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Originally Posted by ryankenn View Post

What are the chances anyone has done, or will be doing a power output test of this to get real world results? Onkyo has a really wide spectrum of results, the "Home Theater" test of the 609 was what really pushed my to think this unit would be great for output, as they tested all 7 channels at .1%/8 ohm and got a whopping 77.7 watts per channel, which is impressiveon considering its rated at 100 wpc.

But then I read a review of the 509 which is rated at 80 wpc and in Sound and Vision but it can only muster 28 wpc into 5 channels. Even the former flagship 5008 only measured 78.7 wpc into 7 channels when its rated at 145.

I understand that power isn't the end all, be all, and how its delivered plays a part, but it really weird to me to have such wide varying real world output compared to the rated outputs, and I wonder where the 809 falls in relation to its rated 135 wpc. Closer to the superb 609 measurements ( in relation to rated ) or a less than stellar 509 or 5008 ( in relation again ).

Home Theater magazine tested the Integra DTR-50.2 which is essentially the 809 with a different face. It hit 107.5 watts x 7.

http://www.hometheater.com/content/i...-labs-measures
post #357 of 5812
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Originally Posted by Clint_ View Post

Home Theater magazine tested the Integra DTR-50.2 which is essentially the 809 with a different face. It hit 107.5 watts x 7.

http://www.hometheater.com/content/i...-labs-measures

Excellent, thanks! That really is impressive considering the measured output of the 1008/3008/5008.
post #358 of 5812
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Originally Posted by etp View Post

which hk did you have?

avr 635
post #359 of 5812
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Originally Posted by Clint_ View Post

Home Theater magazine tested the Integra DTR-50.2 which is essentially the 809 with a different face. It hit 107.5 watts x 7.

http://www.hometheater.com/content/i...-labs-measures

How do you know that the 50.2 is equivalent to the 809? I'm not disputing your claim, just wondering where you got the info.
post #360 of 5812
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Originally Posted by n8gray View Post

How do you know that the 50.2 is equivalent to the 809? I'm not disputing your claim, just wondering where you got the info.

It is pretty well established that the integra's are badge engineered onkyos. But aren't we up to the 50.3 now?

check out their specs, weight and MSRP

They do this to price protect the mom and pop shops who need to get a higher margin to offer the service they do. Sometimes the remotes will be slightly different and they will unlock a couple extra setting like crossover in the software.
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