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post #3991 of 5307
My Open Box 809 from J&R arrived today. Unfortunately, I ran out of time to set it up tonight, but I at least had the chance to confirm the serial number is not one of the recalled ones, so that's certainly a relief.
post #3992 of 5307
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Originally Posted by jakeneff View Post

My Open Box 809 from J&R arrived today. Unfortunately, I ran out of time to set it up tonight, but I at least had the chance to confirm the serial number is not one of the recalled ones, so that's certainly a relief.

Good for you.

And how is the condition?

Let us know once it is setup..
post #3993 of 5307
Posted this a couple days ago and still looking for help.

Having a really bad time with this wireless LAN adapter. Has anyone had any luck?....

So the reply I got from Onkyo (after giving their support department exactly the same info I left here was):

"Change the protocol on your router from WEP to WPA - this should fix the problem."

We always had WPA2. I tried taking away all security and could still not get the AVR to recognize the network.

Has anyone had any success with this UWF-1 AND the TX-NR809?
post #3994 of 5307
Hi Suzanne,

The Onkyo manual recommends Ethernet connection, see attached. Are you sure this is not possible?

Other alternatives include "powerline adaptor" type bridge - again, connecting with Ethernet.

And the other, a dedicated wireless bridge, which you still connect via Ethernet.

It's not what you wanted to hear, but wireless is awful (when it doesn't work!).

If you wish to persevere, I would recommend turning Off advanced settings of your router, and running it in Wireless G mode only (not the dual band). This might help.

If you manage to get a connection, I would look to set a static ip address if possible.

If this proves successful, perhaps you can then move your router back up to dual band, and things may settle down.

Best of luck,
LL
post #3995 of 5307
We get a great connection with the ethernet but in this day and age it sucks to have a cable running from your computer room to your receiver when Onkyo produces and advertises this Wireless LAN adapter (which cost us about 500 Swedish crowns or $70 not including shipping). AND especially when you've spent a lot of money to make your Home Theater room look nice!

We first ordered a Belkin music receiver so we could play Spotify from our phones and that works great but one of the big selling points of this TX-NR809 is that all these music services are built into the receiver. We invested in the LAN adapter and I guess we will end up sending it back for a refund.

I will hook our old Belkin router back up first and see if I have any luck with the receiver before we do send it back. My husband is the sound genius and I'm just the networking and computer geek in the family. I just hope we're not going to regret going with Onkyo instead of Yamaha.
post #3996 of 5307
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Originally Posted by Suzanne1 View Post

We get a great connection with the ethernet but in this day and age it sucks to have a cable running from your computer room to your receiver when Onkyo produces and advertises this Wireless LAN adapter (which cost us about 500 Swedish crowns or $70 not including shipping). AND especially when you've spent a lot of money to make your Home Theater room look nice!

We first ordered a Belkin music receiver so we could play Spotify from our phones and that works great but one of the big selling points of this TX-NR809 is that all these music services are built into the receiver. We invested in the LAN adapter and I guess we will end up sending it back for a refund.

I will hook our old Belkin router back up first and see if I have any luck with the receiver before we do send it back. My husband is the sound genius and I'm just the networking and computer geek in the family. I just hope we're not going to regret going with Onkyo instead of Yamaha.

I am not sure where you have your receiver in your setup, but I have many devices needing a network connection in the same location.
Tv, SkyHd, Wii, PS3 and my squeezebox all have a network need, with most having wireless as standard. But streaming video on wireless is hopeless. I decided the best strategy was to hard wire all non portable items, leaving the wireless bandwidth for truly, portable only, devices.

I recommend you send your USB device back, and get a powerline bridge, and pocket the difference.
post #3997 of 5307
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Originally Posted by Suzanne1 View Post

We get a great connection with the ethernet but in this day and age it sucks to have a cable running from your computer room to your receiver when Onkyo produces and advertises this Wireless LAN adapter (which cost us about 500 Swedish crowns or $70 not including shipping). AND especially when you've spent a lot of money to make your Home Theater room look nice!

We first ordered a Belkin music receiver so we could play Spotify from our phones and that works great but one of the big selling points of this TX-NR809 is that all these music services are built into the receiver. We invested in the LAN adapter and I guess we will end up sending it back for a refund.

I will hook our old Belkin router back up first and see if I have any luck with the receiver before we do send it back. My husband is the sound genius and I'm just the networking and computer geek in the family. I just hope we're not going to regret going with Onkyo instead of Yamaha.


It would always be preferable (and cheap) to avoid custom wireless adapter and use a cheap ($40) router in bridge mode (using dd-wrt)..
post #3998 of 5307
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I recommend you send your USB device back, and get a powerline bridge, and pocket the difference.

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It would always be preferable (and cheap) to avoid custom wireless adapter and use a cheap ($40) router in bridge mode (using dd-wrt)..

You're both absolutely right. I quit!! They aren't so cheap for us here but cheaper than this LAN adapter so even with the extra shipping back and forth, we'll still get by cheaper!

Thanks!!
post #3999 of 5307
I'm looking at buying an NR809. I noticed the newer NR818 lost the universal port, which is disturbing, since I plan to use the HD radio module with mine.

I was originally looking at an NRx009 model, but I'm wondering if there is any real difference between those and the 809, aside from the additional two amplifier channels, and the larger amp stage, which isn't a big deal to me since I'm running 5.1 anyway (bi-amp) and I use an external amplifier with pre-outs from the AVR as a pre/pro.

Right now, I'm trying to decide between an NR809, or an NR3008 for $400 more.

On a side note, can WinAmp in Win7 play over an NR series AVR? Is WinAmp DLNA compliant?

thanks
post #4000 of 5307
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Originally Posted by jakeneff View Post

My Open Box 809 from J&R arrived today. Unfortunately, I ran out of time to set it up tonight, but I at least had the chance to confirm the serial number is not one of the recalled ones, so that's certainly a relief.

Quote:
Originally Posted by aaranddeeman View Post

Good for you.

And how is the condition?

Let us know once it is setup..

Physically it's in perfect condition. The box itself had a couple holes/dents in it, but it didn't extend to the AVR itself. I didn't realize this unit was so tall. Yes, I know I should have checked the dimensions, but I assumed since my old one was so tall, this one would be fine. I almost had a mini-crisis fitting it into my shelf. Fortunately, the shelf above had a removable glass top and I had the bright idea of unscrewing the feet from the AVR, lowering it in from the top, and screwing the feet back on.

Anyway, all I've had time to do so far is check basic functionality (for my purposes anyway). The HDMI connection from the PS3 worked great and automatically processed the HD audio (and video) as expected.

The AVR did have trouble connecting to Pandora at first, so I'm not sure if I should be concerned about that or not. It did connect after a few tries.

Also, I briefly connected my docked Zune mp3 player via an RCA connector to the TV/CD rear ports and didn't hear any sound, though I may have missed a setup step. It did play just fine through the front AUX port.

I haven't updated the firmware yet and I'm holding off till the quiet of the morning to run the speaker calibration, so that's all I can say for now.
post #4001 of 5307
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Originally Posted by jakeneff View Post

Physically it's in perfect condition. The box itself had a couple holes/dents in it, but it didn't extend to the AVR itself. I didn't realize this unit was so tall. Yes, I know I should have checked the dimensions, but I assumed since my old one was so tall, this one would be fine. I almost had a mini-crisis fitting it into my shelf. Fortunately, the shelf above had a removable glass top and I had the bright idea of unscrewing the feet from the AVR, lowering it in from the top, and screwing the feet back on.

Anyway, all I've had time to do so far is check basic functionality (for my purposes anyway). The HDMI connection from the PS3 worked great and automatically processed the HD audio (and video) as expected.

The AVR did have trouble connecting to Pandora at first, so I'm not sure if I should be concerned about that or not. It did connect after a few tries.

Also, I briefly connected my docked Zune mp3 player via an RCA connector to the TV/CD rear ports and didn't hear any sound, though I may have missed a setup step. It did play just fine through the front AUX port.

I haven't updated the firmware yet and I'm holding off till the quiet of the morning to run the speaker calibration, so that's all I can say for now.

All right!.. Am I envious?..
post #4002 of 5307
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
Yes it will ... certainly far more than going from 805-->809. Plus with 809 you have to check to see if it's not one of the recalled units.

Hi, I'm not from the US and planning to order an 809 through a relative. Is there a safe way to tell that it's not part of the recall? Would ordering it from a specific store help (ex. Amazon, Vanns, JR)? Thanks.
post #4003 of 5307
I would contact the reseller as they should be able to determine the serial number on the box.

http://www.onkyousa.com/001A_modelre....cfm?enter=new
post #4004 of 5307
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Originally Posted by aaranddeeman View Post

All right!.. Am I envious?..

Busy, busy weekend. Okay, so I got a little more for you. I got through the Audyssey calibration and the firmware update. Not sure whether that should have been the other way around, but whatever.

I haven't listened to a Blu-ray yet with uncompressed audio, but I did want to hear how a regular DVD w/ DD 5.1 sounded compared to my previous Pioneer Elite, especially the "Dynamic Volume" feature because most of my watching is done in the morning when the rest of the household is asleep.

Even though I was just listening to a standard 5.1 DD track, the sound seemed crisper and I heard little details in the side and rear surrounds that I hadn't seemed to before, especially with dynamic volume settings. I'm assuming this has something to do with Audyssey being superior to MCACC and also it being a newer AVR, or it could have merely been a placebo effect.

The other thing that is also good is the "Dynamic Volume" feature is far superior to my previous Pioneer Elite (either the Midnight Mode or Dynamic setting). Before even using the similar feature I would still have to keep my finger on the volume button for explosions, car crashes, stuff like that or else I wouldn't be able to hear the dialog at all (increasing the center channel volume didn't work -- distorted the sound). I was watching this morning with the setting on "Heavy" and the dialog was clear. An explosion occurred before I even realized it was happening, but it wasn't any louder than the dialog. Perfect for my needs.

I ran into another network hiccup when I tried to update the firmware. It had a DNS error part way through. But after trying to restart it a couple of times unsuccessfully, I turned off the unit, unplugged it, unplugged the ethernet jack, replugged everything back in, and it updated in about 5 minutes, so not sure what that was all about *shrug*.

Again, I've still barely scratched the surface of this device. I know I've had a couple minor issues already, but overall it seems to be working great, and for the price I paid, I'm smiling ear to ear!
post #4005 of 5307
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

I would contact the reseller as they should be able to determine the serial number on the box.

http://www.onkyousa.com/001A_modelre....cfm?enter=new

Thanks. Unfortunately, Amazon replied to my query and said they don't perform this as their fulfillment area is located in a different area. Any other recommended online stores? I have a little more than a month for my brother to test it but just want to avoid the inconvenience to my brother with returns.

Also, I checked AccessoriesforLess but only saw 'Refurbished' items. Do they sell new?
post #4006 of 5307
^^
That response doesn't surprise me from a huge place like Amazon. Although AC4L does sell some items new, AFAIK, not Onkyo products. AFAIK, a 1 year warranty would still apply on the refurb and if purchased with a credit card, the card provider may add an additional year making it 2 years. And as AC4L is a small shop (just down the street from me actually), they would likely be able to check the serial number for you.
post #4007 of 5307
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Originally Posted by Suzanne1 View Post

You're both absolutely right. I quit!! They aren't so cheap for us here but cheaper than this LAN adapter so even with the extra shipping back and forth, we'll still get by cheaper!

Thanks!!

Suzanne,
I too had problems making my wireless USB adaptor work.
I bought this one though

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833704045

I bought it for my HTPC, but tried plugging it in to my TX-NR809 for Slacker Radio connection.
With the Autoconnect, I never got it to recognize my network.
So I tried a manual connection and had it working within minutes.
Hope this helps.
post #4008 of 5307
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Originally Posted by sherpa25 View Post

Thanks. Unfortunately, Amazon replied to my query and said they don't perform this as their fulfillment area is located in a different area. Any other recommended online stores? I have a little more than a month for my brother to test it but just want to avoid the inconvenience to my brother with returns.

Also, I checked AccessoriesforLess but only saw 'Refurbished' items. Do they sell new?

I recently bought mine from ABT. It was on back order for two weeks.
Mines is not effected by the recall. So I'd assume the in stock ones should be OK. But you can call them to confirm. Good luck.

http://www.abt.com/scripts/site/site...o-TXNR809.html
post #4009 of 5307
I've had my 809 for about 5-6 months now. I've really enjoyed it with very few complaints.. But, my biggest complaint is something so stupidly simple that I can't determine if its a bug, an oversight, or user (id10t) error...

When changing the volume level with the remote, the receiver changes in 0.5db increments... for each press of the volume button.

The remote WILL NOT repeat the volume command no matter how long I hold the button.

Can anyone else confirm if this is a known problem? I've scoured the interwebs for weeks (perhaps even months!) looking for a solution to this. I even called Onkyo support (to which I had to leave a message and wait for a callback, which never happened). I haven't even seen anyone COMPLAIN about it, in reviews, etc? I can't be the only one in the world to be so anal that this is a problem... can I?

Anyway, I'm mostly ranting.. but if anyone can confirm this is normal behaviour that would at least keep me from spending hours searching for an answer.. If its not normal, I would appreciate any tips on troubleshooting/resolving...

Thanks all for tolerating my noise!

--Kyle
post #4010 of 5307
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Originally Posted by kylemallory View Post

I've had my 809 for about 5-6 months now. I've really enjoyed it with very few complaints.. But, my biggest complaint is something so stupidly simple that I can't determine if its a bug, an oversight, or user (id10t) error...

When changing the volume level with the remote, the receiver changes in 0.5db increments... for each press of the volume button.

The remote WILL NOT repeat the volume command no matter how long I hold the button.

Can anyone else confirm if this is a known problem? I've scoured the interwebs for weeks (perhaps even months!) looking for a solution to this. I even called Onkyo support (to which I had to leave a message and wait for a callback, which never happened). I haven't even seen anyone COMPLAIN about it, in reviews, etc? I can't be the only one in the world to be so anal that this is a problem... can I?

Anyway, I'm mostly ranting.. but if anyone can confirm this is normal behaviour that would at least keep me from spending hours searching for an answer.. If its not normal, I would appreciate any tips on troubleshooting/resolving...

Thanks all for tolerating my noise!

--Kyle

Hold will increase volume. Upgrade firmware maybe.
post #4011 of 5307
Quote:
Suzanne,
I too had problems making my wireless USB adaptor work.
I bought this one though

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833704045

I bought it for my HTPC, but tried plugging it in to my TX-NR809 for Slacker Radio connection.
With the Autoconnect, I never got it to recognize my network.
So I tried a manual connection and had it working within minutes.
Hope this helps.

Thanks! I just ordered one of those here in Sweden for about $20. Even if it doesn't work in the AVR, I can use it in one of the outdated laptops I have around here. I did send the UWF-1 back for a full refund and even got the shipping back without any question from the company we ordered from.
post #4012 of 5307
i have my new 809 arriving Friday. Are most of the units that had the bad serial numbers/problems "out of the system" or are they still actively being shipped out???
post #4013 of 5307
I have been real patient hoping anyone has an idea with my problem. Any ideas? I have posted on it twice. PLEASE!
post #4014 of 5307
^^
The Onkyo sets reference volume to 0db whereas that may not be the case for the Pioneer which is why the master level won't necessarily be the same from brand to brand.
post #4015 of 5307
"0dB" volume is typically the volume at which there is no longer any attenuation to the source signal at line level, so it would be as if you plugged the source unit (CD player, whatever) directly into the amplifier without any volume knob.
If two AV receivers have different amplifaction stages, then 0dB will be a different actual volume level from one to the next.
post #4016 of 5307
Hello,
Yesterday, we watched a concert DVD with a 5.1 Dolby Digital track (Bruce Springsteen: Live in NYC). I'm in the camp that would like to hear/see the material as close as possible to how it has been mastered. I tend to use modes like 'Direct' / 'Pure' / 'Straight' / 'THX' or similar.
Thus, I watch movies with THX Movie and THX Music for music.

I was trying the other available formats while waiting for my wife and I was extremely surprised to hear that the setting plainly labelled 'Dolby Digital' was way better that any others (straight, direct, THX, etc...):
Staging was very much improved & the dynamic way higher!

I'm wondering why this setting sounds (much) better than the Pure, Direct or THX? Does anybody also feel that way?
post #4017 of 5307
^^
Audyssey is designed for that very purpose, the filtering process itself as well as the use of Audyssey Dyn EQ (for lower volume listenging). When you use PURE or DIRECT, not only do you disable Audyssey, but you also disable bass management as well, and AFAIK, when you use THX you disable Audyssey Dyn EQ. Generally you're always going to find using Audyssey far outweight whatever PURE or DIRECT might offer.
post #4018 of 5307
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Originally Posted by gamov View Post

Hello,
Yesterday, we watched a concert DVD with a 5.1 Dolby Digital track (Bruce Springsteen: Live in NYC). I'm in the camp that would like to hear/see the material as close as possible to how it has been mastered. I tend to use modes like 'Direct' / 'Pure' / 'Straight' / 'THX' or similar.
Thus, I watch movies with THX Movie and THX Music for music.

I was trying the other available formats while waiting for my wife and I was extremely surprised to hear that the setting plainly labelled 'Dolby Digital' was way better that any others (straight, direct, THX, etc...):
Staging was very much improved & the dynamic way higher!

I'm wondering why this setting sounds (much) better than the Pure, Direct or THX? Does anybody also feel that way?

"THX" and any other mode that isn't dolby digital/DTS digital, or pure/direct/stereo modes are ALL going to be matrixed modes, meaning that you're not listening to the original source material uncolored by a DSP.
THX, Neo6, PD-II, etc etc are all DSP modes that take a mono or two channel source, and make it a multi-channel output with reverb effects and what not.

Direct or Pure plays a two channel source (read: radio, music CD, most LPs, etc) directly, with no DSP involvement, through the main two front speakers, as it would if you had an old school 2-channel pre/pro setup.
Stereo mode does this with the inclusion of the ".1" or ".2" added in, so you have subwoofers as well.

Your disc of The Boss was mastered and recorded in Dolby Digital 5.1, which is 6 discrete channels of data. Of course that, with the inclusion of Audissey for room correction, is going to sound the best. You're hearing the disc exactly as it was intended to be ehard, and not filtered down to 2 channels then matrixed back to 5.1, or played how your DSP in the receiver thinks 5.1 should sound, and not as the audio engineer who remastered that DVD intended it to sound.

If you have a multi-channel source that has a discrete multi-channel output, like Dolby Digital, DTS-ES, etc.. then use it. Don't monkey with DSP modes that were intended to correct for non-HD/old tech like stereo television, or a VCR tape without multi-channel tracks.

As for music, the mode is personal taste really. I personally prefer stereo or direct modes for most music, unless I just want fill-sound for a party or working around the house etc.. then I use "all channel stereo" on occasion.
If you want the 5.1 experience with a music CD, then sure, give Studio Mix a shot, or whatever mode sounds good to you. I just don't like to color the music with DSPs if I can avoid it. I'm old fashioned like that, and I have speakers that I feel don't require such embellishments. (big floor standing mains with a flat, resistive response curve across the audible spectrum, and a lot of power behind them.)
post #4019 of 5307
Well I did get the TP-Link adapter and it doesn't work in the receiver either. I still get "No Access Point Found." The positive thing is that it works great in this 10 year old laptop and has a wireless speed of 17 Mbits/sec sitting in the exact same location as the receiver. Obviously, the problem is the AVR, not the wireless adapters.

Onkyo responded again with it must be my firewall settings. So I disconnect my anti-virus and firewall. Same thing. The problem is, I can find every network on the block with every wireless device we have in the house. My Wii is hooked up via Wifi in the same location as the AVR. I just wish that Onkyo would own up to the fact that while their sound is great, that their product (the AVR and the Adapter) are not keeping up with the times. The Powerline bridge is on its way anyway and my old laptop now has a cheap and fast wireless adapter.
post #4020 of 5307
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Originally Posted by Suzanne1 View Post

Well I did get the TP-Link adapter and it doesn't work in the receiver either. I still get "No Access Point Found." The positive thing is that it works great in this 10 year old laptop and has a wireless speed of 17 Mbits/sec sitting in the exact same location as the receiver. Obviously, the problem is the AVR, not the wireless adapters.

Onkyo responded again with it must be my firewall settings. So I disconnect my anti-virus and firewall. Same thing. The problem is, I can find every network on the block with every wireless device we have in the house. My Wii is hooked up via Wifi in the same location as the AVR. I just wish that Onkyo would own up to the fact that while their sound is great, that their product (the AVR and the Adapter) are not keeping up with the times. The Powerline bridge is on its way anyway and my old laptop now has a cheap and fast wireless adapter.

Did you rule out a conflict with your Router? Others who've posted here concluded there were clashes.

Let's just face it, wireless is hopeless. Even if you get a connection, it won't stream reliably!

I am more hopeful for your next solution.
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