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post #4261 of 5804
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Originally Posted by dragon180 View Post

wl1 and rworne,
I suppose there is no resolution to the random skipping issue in z2 or 3. Has the apple app or Onkyo android app being updated to allow independent zone random skippping?
If you can skip to to next track on the album that is currently playing, surely it would not be too difficult to skip to the next random track by pressing the zone button and skip if it keeps the the original zone 1 setting even when you select a different input for the main zone. It makes me regret getting an Onkyo receiver.

I think you need to keep things in proportion. What you describe, might be disappointing for you, but is pretty minor.
post #4262 of 5804
hey fellas...Sorry if this has been answered b4 and if this is a noob question but....I was testing out my 809 earlier...I have had it for a few months but just finally getting around to messing with it. Well I was listening to the radio earlier and cranked the volume to around 80-83 and saw the display flash the letters "REF" and I also saw the little red thx start to flash. I would assume this stands for reference levels/thx? Or am I experiencing some malfuntion on the avr?
post #4263 of 5804
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Originally Posted by dragon180 View Post

wl1 and rworne,
I suppose there is no resolution to the random skipping issue in z2 or 3. Has the apple app or Onkyo android app being updated to allow independent zone random skippping?
If you can skip to to next track on the album that is currently playing, surely it would not be too difficult to skip to the next random track by pressing the zone button and skip if it keeps the the original zone 1 setting even when you select a different input for the main zone. It makes me regret getting an Onkyo receiver.

This is an issue for Onkyo to fix. My app has the appropriate commands to enable repeat and shuffle in Zone 2 and Spotify (and all other net sources), but if the receiver won't accept the commands, there's nothing I can do.
post #4264 of 5804
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Originally Posted by Islandborn View Post

hey fellas...Sorry if this has been answered b4 and if this is a noob question but....I was testing out my 809 earlier...I have had it for a few months but just finally getting around to messing with it. Well I was listening to the radio earlier and cranked the volume to around 80-83 and saw the display flash the letters "REF" and I also saw the little red thx start to flash. I would assume this stands for reference levels/thx? Or am I experiencing some malfuntion on the avr?

thats exactly what it means
post #4265 of 5804
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Originally Posted by domingos38 View Post

thats exactly what it means

I've seen that flash before also.. But it was when the volume hit zero (0).
What does that mean exactly ??
post #4266 of 5804
Yes, I should stop going on about it really unless something changes. Onkyo are aware of the issue. It is just frustrating. The randomization is really good in the main zone. It rarely repeats the same song in a random set. Thanks for all your responses on this issue.
post #4267 of 5804
Alright here is my setup...

Blu-Ray, Apple TV, Xbox 360 all connected via HDMI (all high speed 1.4 cables) to the 809.
A Cable box connected via Component Video and an optical cable for audio to the 809.

HDMI Out (Main) -> Epson Projector
HDMI Out (Sub) -> 2x HDMI 3D splitter -> two identical Toshiba 46L5200U LED tvs.

I "assumed" (oops) that the HDMI out would carry sound from the Onkyo 809, but it appears more complicated. My goal is to be able to send video/audio to either the projector w/speakers powered by the Onkyo (this works fine) OR have the option of sending video and audio to the flat panel tvs to be played via their internal speakers. Best of all is if I could get all 3 video devices (projector AND 2 tvs) to play video / audio all at the same time.

If I select HDMI Out to either "Both" or "Both(Main) or Both(Sub)" I get video on all devices, which are all 1080p. I don't get sound on the TVs though, only via the wall speakers in the theater room. If I turn on HDMI RIHD which I think is control via HDMI, sometimes called HDMI CEC, then I get sound on the tvs when using the blu-ray player, Apple TV, and Xbox but NOT when using the cable box. Is there something about the fact my cable box is hooked up via component video and optical audio that prevents HDMI out from carrying audio? I can't hook up the cable box via HDMI because it is a Motorola DCX3400 with Comcast and it refuses to handshake with more than one video device at a time via HDMI (thanks Comcast!) and I get a green screen if I try to have more than one tv on at a time.

PS: Selecting "Audio Out TV: On" actually kills sound to everything, not sure what that is supposed to do.

Can anyone help me see if I am doing something wrong with the setup. I pre-wired my newly constructed basement so I have very limited options for running more cables to the flat panel TVs, I was certain that an AV receiver would simply send audio data over HDMI out to an video source at the same time as it played audio through speakers. Am I dead in the water?

Thanks!
post #4268 of 5804
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Originally Posted by basementdweller1 View Post

Alright here is my setup...

PS: Selecting "Audio Out TV: On" actually kills sound to everything, not sure what that is supposed to do.

Thanks!

This option is for when you wish to listen to the TVs in built tuner through the AVR speakers. It can be used to send an Audio Out on your TV through the same cable as your AVR is sending the video signal for other devices. Not useful for you.

Comcast with HDMI:-
What happens to the audio with only one device? Do you have an analogue to feed?
post #4269 of 5804
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Originally Posted by basementdweller1 View Post


Is there something about the fact my cable box is hooked up via component video and optical audio that prevents HDMI out from carrying audio?

Thanks!

IMHO the receiver upconverts video from component to HDMI, but it will not carry the audio with it to HDMI out...
At least I am not aware if it does..
post #4270 of 5804
Which speaker set up is best ? I have 7-speakers connected. So would it be better to go Front Wide with Floor standing speakers or keep what I have now which is the surround back with book shelf speakers ?

I know that both can not be set up at same time.

Thanks
post #4271 of 5804
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Originally Posted by basementdweller1 View Post

Alright here is my setup...

Blu-Ray, Apple TV, Xbox 360 all connected via HDMI (all high speed 1.4 cables) to the 809.
A Cable box connected via Component Video and an optical cable for audio to the 809.

HDMI Out (Main) -> Epson Projector
HDMI Out (Sub) -> 2x HDMI 3D splitter -> two identical Toshiba 46L5200U LED tvs.

I "assumed" (oops) that the HDMI out would carry sound from the Onkyo 809, but it appears more complicated. My goal is to be able to send video/audio to either the projector w/speakers powered by the Onkyo (this works fine) OR have the option of sending video and audio to the flat panel tvs to be played via their internal speakers. Best of all is if I could get all 3 video devices (projector AND 2 tvs) to play video / audio all at the same time.

If I select HDMI Out to either "Both" or "Both(Main) or Both(Sub)" I get video on all devices, which are all 1080p. I don't get sound on the TVs though, only via the wall speakers in the theater room. If I turn on HDMI RIHD which I think is control via HDMI, sometimes called HDMI CEC, then I get sound on the tvs when using the blu-ray player, Apple TV, and Xbox but NOT when using the cable box. Is there something about the fact my cable box is hooked up via component video and optical audio that prevents HDMI out from carrying audio? I can't hook up the cable box via HDMI because it is a Motorola DCX3400 with Comcast and it refuses to handshake with more than one video device at a time via HDMI (thanks Comcast!) and I get a green screen if I try to have more than one tv on at a time.

PS: Selecting "Audio Out TV: On" actually kills sound to everything, not sure what that is supposed to do.

Can anyone help me see if I am doing something wrong with the setup. I pre-wired my newly constructed basement so I have very limited options for running more cables to the flat panel TVs, I was certain that an AV receiver would simply send audio data over HDMI out to an video source at the same time as it played audio through speakers. Am I dead in the water?

Thanks!

I had to get an HDMI selector and then a splitter to create an HDMI matrix prior to going into the receiver to accomplish this. Basically split of the signal before plugging into the receiver. Total cost, about $80 on eBay.
That way I get sound and video to all my TV's in the house from whatever source I've selected.
Of course that's more difficult if you use component video for your cable box, maybe call the company to a if you can upgrade to an HDMI box?
post #4272 of 5804
wazzul... that adds to my questions...

1. having the ability to have DIFFERENT sources showing on DIFFERENT TVs at the same time would be great but i was aiming for the simple ... "show the same thing on all the TVs at once in the basement." i have 2 LED TVs and 1 projection screen.

2. does the onkyo HAVE the ability to play via connected speakers WHILE ALSO passing audio through HDMI OUT at the same time? is there a restriction via the HDMI(Sub) port as that is where I have the splitter to the 2 LED TVs? I could in theory put the projector on the HDMI(sub) port and the the 2 TVs on the HDMI(main) port via a splitter, ie. a reverse of what I have now. That does mean I can't do onscreen guide via the projection screen though (guide only via Main port) which is a downside.

3. My cable box IS HDMI but is locked down to only 1 handshake at a time. the only way I can get video on 3 screens at one time is via component video. I take it the Onkyo won't take optical audio (from the cable box) and output it via the HDMI(Sub) out? If that's the case I am surprised as it converts the component video and easily outputs it via HDMI, why not the audio?

4. If I want to use a HDMI Matrix and splitters would it work like this...

BluRay -> Splitter (1 to AV, 1 to Matrix)
Xbox -> Splitter (1 to AV, 1 to Matrix)
Apple TV -> Splitter (1 to AV, 1 to Matrix)

Matrix -> Out to 2 LED TVs?

This has been really confusing. I am more than willing to throw money at the problem, what I can't do is ADD any HDMI runs to the 2 LED TVs, they only have 1 each coming from the AV closet. I have to do all the switching in the closet and then send a video AND audio signal that works over the single HDMI cable that is going to each LED TV.

Thanks
post #4273 of 5804
Basically my solution gives me the same source to all TV's. All my components Cable box, Blu Ray, Xbox, HTPC, ect go into a 5x1 HDMI switch, the output of the switch goes to a splitter 1x4. Then I have 1 HDMI run to all my TV's, in my theater room it goes to the Onkyo then the Onkyo out goes to my projector. This gives me audio and video to each.
Now they also make an HDMI matrix device that does the switch and split all in one, but they are way more expensive.
post #4274 of 5804
Hello,

My setup on the TX-NR809
HDMI OUT MAIN --> Samsung UN55ES8000 HDMI2 (ARC)
CBL/SAT (HDMI 3) <-- Tivo Elite (XL)
BD/DVD (HDMI 1) <-- PS3
GAME (HDMI 4) <-- Xbox
Optical 2 (PC)/Network <-- Airport Express

5.1 Setup
Polk Lsi7 - Bi-Amped (Front L/R)
Polk SW11 - Sub
Polk RM8 - Surround L/R
Polk CS2 - Center

So most of it is working as expected but my problem is the turning sequence. I know that a Logitech Harmony will fix this and its on my wishlist, but I really like the Tivo remote which is what I use 95% of the time.
So here is my problem. I want to use either the Onkyo or Tivo remote to turn on the TV and AVR and for the AVR to default to CBL/SAT. So when I use either remote, the TV and AVR turns on, and goes to the last used settings (CBL/SAT). Then the TV sets the AVR to TV/CD (screen still outputs Tivo video, but no sound) and at this point I have to always press CBL/SAT to get the sound coming from the Tivo back. I've programmed the Onkyo's 'My TV' to do the sequence and set it to CBL/SAT but the timming is not right (nor configurable) and the TV sets the AVR back to TV/CD. TV/CD works fine on the TV apps (Pandora, Netflix, etc) which sends the sound via ARC to the AVR.

I have to have HDMI-CEC enabled on the TV to have the one-button on/off and to have it not send audio out its internal speakers. The Tivo's HDMI setup is 'ON' and no further config options are provided. The Tivo is always on.

Anyone with this same problem? All else works fine as expected, except for this anoying thing.

Also, anyone know the Onkyo remote code for this TV?

Thanks
post #4275 of 5804
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Originally Posted by checho68 View Post

Then the TV sets the AVR to TV/CD (screen still outputs Tivo video, but no sound) and at this point I have to always press CBL/SAT to get the sound coming from the Tivo back. I've programmed the Onkyo's 'My TV' to do the sequence and set it to CBL/SAT but the timming is not right (nor configurable) and the TV sets the AVR back to TV/CD. TV/CD works fine on the TV apps (Pandora, Netflix, etc) which sends the sound via ARC to the AVR.

I have to have HDMI-CEC enabled on the TV to have the one-button on/off and to have it not send audio out its internal speakers.

I have some of your setup. In my Samsung TV menus there is an option to select either external or internal speakers under sound. Then you could disable the anynet. I don't know how that affects your system off issue.

Hope that can help, Bob
post #4276 of 5804
I posted several days ago that I got one of the 809s from newegg, taking advantage of their amazing "open box" pricing...though the unit I received showed no signs of being opened..

Anyways, after a several days of messing with it and after 5 attempts of running audessey I finally got it to where it sounds good with pretty much anything. I am very pleased with the network features and streaming sounds better to me then when I had my pc streaming to my ps3 with my old denon 1611 for things like Pandora and the like (maybe placebo, maybe not). I also notice a slight improvement mostly with low end frequencies when playing cds and blu-rays, likely due to the multi-eq xt audessey version over the standard multi-eq version the denon 1611 uses. The bass is less "boomy" now then it was with the denon. I have a dual psw505 subs which are far from the best subs so a noticeable improvement here is good thing.

Of all the features and settings it has, I am still a bit confused on what re-eq does. I have played around with it, turning it off and on with different source material, sometimes there is no obvious difference, sometimes there is, though not always a preferred change though. Can anyone explain what it does and when it should be used?

This is my first onkyo (well second actually, i purchased an open box 709 from amazon several weeks ago, but returned it due to a bad amp channel) and I am a very happy consumer!
post #4277 of 5804
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Originally Posted by kiwichev View Post

I have a question about the component output .. Just hooked up a 809 to a older Mitsubishi diamond 65 inch tv for my neighbor,the problem is the tv has no hdmi only component and I can't get a signal to the tv . I went through the settings to monitor and tried everything . Any help would be appreciated thanks

You should be able to get video output via the component output on the 809. That's exactly how I have my older Panny plasma hooked up, at least until the prices come down on the new VT series. What is your monitor out set to? Also remember that neither HDMI sources nor the Onkyo's OSD will pass through to the component out.
post #4278 of 5804
Was wondering if there has been many or any problems with this receiver. I am finally getting a credit for an 876 that they were unable to fix. Might even look into getting a 1009. Thanks
post #4279 of 5804
Quote:
Originally Posted by basementdweller1 View Post

Alright here is my setup...

Blu-Ray, Apple TV, Xbox 360 all connected via HDMI (all high speed 1.4 cables) to the 809.
A Cable box connected via Component Video and an optical cable for audio to the 809.

HDMI Out (Main) -> Epson Projector
HDMI Out (Sub) -> 2x HDMI 3D splitter -> two identical Toshiba 46L5200U LED tvs.

I "assumed" (oops) that the HDMI out would carry sound from the Onkyo 809, but it appears more complicated. My goal is to be able to send video/audio to either the projector w/speakers powered by the Onkyo (this works fine) OR have the option of sending video and audio to the flat panel tvs to be played via their internal speakers. Best of all is if I could get all 3 video devices (projector AND 2 tvs) to play video / audio all at the same time.

If I select HDMI Out to either "Both" or "Both(Main) or Both(Sub)" I get video on all devices, which are all 1080p. I don't get sound on the TVs though, only via the wall speakers in the theater room. If I turn on HDMI RIHD which I think is control via HDMI, sometimes called HDMI CEC, then I get sound on the tvs when using the blu-ray player, Apple TV, and Xbox but NOT when using the cable box. Is there something about the fact my cable box is hooked up via component video and optical audio that prevents HDMI out from carrying audio? I can't hook up the cable box via HDMI because it is a Motorola DCX3400 with Comcast and it refuses to handshake with more than one video device at a time via HDMI (thanks Comcast!) and I get a green screen if I try to have more than one tv on at a time.

PS: Selecting "Audio Out TV: On" actually kills sound to everything, not sure what that is supposed to do.

Can anyone help me see if I am doing something wrong with the setup. I pre-wired my newly constructed basement so I have very limited options for running more cables to the flat panel TVs, I was certain that an AV receiver would simply send audio data over HDMI out to an video source at the same time as it played audio through speakers. Am I dead in the water?

Thanks!

I share your frustration at all the little limitations all these wondrous gizmos seem to have. Seems like everything was only thought out 95% and then rushed out the door. However, I have to ask, why on earth do you want to use the TV speakers? That pretty much defeats the whole purpose of the AVR which is to provide high power sound to high fidelity speakers with proper levels and tone controls. You can't take advantage of Audyssey or subwoofers or any of the other signal processing features of the AVR if you just pass HDMI audio to the TVs. Most TVs these days have unbelievably tinny little speakers in them because the TV is only one inch thick with the smallest bezel they can make. Just asking because you say you have other speakers.
post #4280 of 5804
TV in second room connected via HDMI sub, Main HDMI out connected to projector in theater.

Figured out how to set passthrough audio and video in standby, but can't figure out if I keep 809 on, how to not send audio to the theater, except for muting (HDMI Sub will pass even with mute on). Either of these two solutions solve my problem, but I am assuming that I'm missing something and it's been bothering me that I can't figure it out...

Thanks!
post #4281 of 5804
Hello, I'm back again, could you help me how to do this please? Thought this was a software problem in my setup.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post22090875

Or any other suggestions? Thanks in advance for your help in this regard.
post #4282 of 5804
Does anyone know if there is a way to select a different audio source and video source at the same time? For example, I want my directv box on a baseball game and want music playing at the same time? The music source could be anything, IPOD, NET, DVD etc.

I know I can do it with the zone2/zone3, but I want the music also in the main room.

Everything is connected via HDMI and analog backups for multi-zone.

Thanks!
post #4283 of 5804
Yes, for something like CD, just ensure you have no video associated with it.

Watch your TV as normal, and when you switch to CD, screen will momentarily go blank and come back again.

Use analogue out puts for devices to double up if need be, and same will apply.

For Net, feed the Z3 (if unused) outputs back into the unused analogue input of your HDMI for tv. Then watch tv but manually select Analogue whilst watching tv.

Will these ideas work for you ?
post #4284 of 5804
I have a quick question, i was playing around last night when watching lord of the rings in dts ma and i was farting around with the picker wheel on oremote and i changed the audio to pure mode by accident and was amazed by the audio quality. I was under the assumption that pure mode disables the lfe from the subs but it didn't. Anyone tried this yet? Im also wondering if pure mode disables audyssey settings? Thanks for any info.
post #4285 of 5804
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Originally Posted by Seadaddy View Post

I have a quick question, i was playing around last night when watching lord of the rings in dts ma and i was farting around with the picker wheel on oremote and i changed the audio to pure mode by accident and was amazed by the audio quality. I was under the assumption that pure mode disables the lfe from the subs but it didn't. Anyone tried this yet? Im also wondering if pure mode disables audyssey settings? Thanks for any info.

pure mode disables all audyssey and equalization/level/crossover settings, I believe.
post #4286 of 5804
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Originally Posted by oleus View Post


pure mode disables all audyssey and equalization/level/crossover settings, I believe.

Thanks for the info, that sounds about right. Onkyo manuals have always been horrible.
post #4287 of 5804
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

Yes, for something like CD, just ensure you have no video associated with it.

Watch your TV as normal, and when you switch to CD, screen will momentarily go blank and come back again.

Use analogue out puts for devices to double up if need be, and same will apply.

For Net, feed the Z3 (if unused) outputs back into the unused analogue input of your HDMI for tv. Then watch tv but manually select Analogue whilst watching tv.

Will these ideas work for you ?

I think it will, I'll give it a try today thanks!
post #4288 of 5804
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Originally Posted by wildbill129 View Post

Does anyone know if there is a way to select a different audio source and video source at the same time? For example, I want my directv box on a baseball game and want music playing at the same time? The music source could be anything, IPOD, NET, DVD etc.

Hi wildbill129, you can watch a video and select an audio (like Tuner or music source connected & assigned to TV/CD port - via optical, coaxial or analog).

- connect music source to "TV/CD" jack via optical, coaxial or RCA
- select your video input source (directv)
- wait until the source video is playing
- on the remote, press "Receiver" button and then "TV/CD" or "AM" or "FM
post #4289 of 5804
Quote:
Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

Yes, for something like CD, just ensure you have no video associated with it.

Watch your TV as normal, and when you switch to CD, screen will momentarily go blank and come back again.

Use analogue out puts for devices to double up if need be, and same will apply.

For Net, feed the Z3 (if unused) outputs back into the unused analogue input of your HDMI for tv. Then watch tv but manually select Analogue whilst watching tv.

Will these ideas work for you ?

How do you manually select analog? I can't find a button on my remote or on the front panel. I searched the instructions to no avail.....
post #4290 of 5804
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Originally Posted by wildbill129 View Post

How do you manually select analog? I can't find a button on my remote or on the front panel. I searched the instructions to no avail.....

Its under "Audio Selector", you can press the "Home" button or go into menu screen and find it at "Source Setup".
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