or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Receivers, Amps, and Processors › "Official" Onkyo TX-NR809 Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

"Official" Onkyo TX-NR809 Thread - Page 153

post #4561 of 5809
Most Netflix movies (70%) are still only stereo so ensure you are playing a movie/show with DD 5.1 and that DD 5.1 is selected. Although the optical connection won't have any problems passing the DD 5.1, AFAIK on Panasonic TVs, the ARC (HDMI) connection can only pass PCM 2.0 so you'll likely want to use the optical vice ARC. As far as getting ARC to work, HDMI handshaking can be tricky sometimes, so try cycling the RIHD setting OFF then ON, power off all devices, then power on again, TV, wait a few secs then power on the AVR.
post #4562 of 5809
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Most Netflix movies (70%) are still only stereo so ensure you are playing a movie/show with DD 5.1 and that DD 5.1 is selected. Although the optical connection won't have any problems passing the DD 5.1, AFAIK on Panasonic TVs, the ARC (HDMI) connection can only pass PCM 2.0 so you'll likely want to use the optical vice ARC. As far as getting ARC to work, HDMI handshaking can be tricky sometimes, so try cycling the RIHD setting OFF then ON, power off all devices, then power on again, TV, wait a few secs then power on the AVR.


I was testing Breaking Bad, and that's in 5.1. That's why I retested it with my BluRay streaming, and it streamed in 5.1. BUT, your comment on not being able to use ARC for 5.1 anyway, makes the decision easy for me. No need to keep troubleshooting since I'd have to use the optical connection anyway to stream. I'll continue to use my Blu Ray for streaming, and if I decide to replace my Blu Ray, I'll make sure that I get one w/ streaming capabilities again.

Thanks
post #4563 of 5809
The HDMI video out on my AVR died again yesterday, and indeed it was a fault of the AVR. Doing a factory reset brought it back to life, but lord Jebus the inconvenience. I'm seeing HDMI issues popup more and more frequently on forums - what is the consensus on this? Should I be sending out the unit for repair? Have those who experienced the same found that repairs put an end to the situation?

It's difficult for me to restore my settings with 2 small kids at home - I almost never have the time and family out of the house long enough to do run the Audyssey properly - not to mention the annoying sounds for them.

Ain't nobody got time fo that!!
post #4564 of 5809
Any chance your problem could be a loose HDMI cable connection? I have had that several times. Mechanically, HDMI connections are not the best. Might want to try unplugging and replugging the cable next time before you do the reset...
post #4565 of 5809
My NR-809 has a problem with cutting off the first few seconds of audio when it switchs to a new audio codec. I am using an HDMI cable for audio and video. Say I put in a Bluray and the 20th century Fox logo and music starts up, the first few seconds of audio will not play. Logo will apear on screen than the audio code shows up on the avr display than i hear audio. I never get to hear the very first opening drum roll of the Fox logo or any other thing where the audio starts just as soon as you see an image. It's most noticeable during previews and opening logos cause each clip switchs audio codes and that's where I get th delay. Wether it's switching from Pro Logic II to DolbynDigital or Dolby Digital to DTS HD MA the first few seconds of a movie is shut off. I have not done a firmware update yet. Anybody else have this problem with there NR-809?
post #4566 of 5809
Quote:
Originally Posted by razrsharp View Post

The HDMI video out on my AVR died again yesterday, and indeed it was a fault of the AVR. Doing a factory reset brought it back to life, but lord Jebus the inconvenience. I'm seeing HDMI issues popup more and more frequently on forums - what is the consensus on this? Should I be sending out the unit for repair? Have those who experienced the same found that repairs put an end to the situation?
It's difficult for me to restore my settings with 2 small kids at home - I almost never have the time and family out of the house long enough to do run the Audyssey properly - not to mention the annoying sounds for them.
Ain't nobody got time fo that!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by rblum View Post

Any chance your problem could be a loose HDMI cable connection? I have had that several times. Mechanically, HDMI connections are not the best. Might want to try unplugging and replugging the cable next time before you do the reset...

Don't think so; as when I plug the TV directly into the source it works fine - then try again with the Onkyo and Nada. Is there a potential setting that is throwing it off, forcing the handshake not to work?
post #4567 of 5809
Can I do this with this amp:

Bi-wiring FL and FR plus center, SR, SL, Wide R, Wide L.....can I do 9.1 with this amp adding a external amp?

Please respond soon,

Thanks
post #4568 of 5809
Well you could technically have 9.1 speakers all firing at once using an extra 2.0 amp, but it wouldn't be a "proper" 9.1 system as it's meant to be. In fact, do a search on this thread - some users have detected a delay between zone 1/2/3 unless "whole home mode" is used with certain sources, which would mean that no, you can't do this unless you expect a non-discreet sound to come out of every speaker at the same time.
post #4569 of 5809
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reddig View Post

My NR-809 has a problem with cutting off the first few seconds of audio when it switchs to a new audio codec. I am using an HDMI cable for audio and video. Say I put in a Bluray and the 20th century Fox logo and music starts up, the first few seconds of audio will not play. Logo will apear on screen than the audio code shows up on the avr display than i hear audio. I never get to hear the very first opening drum roll of the Fox logo or any other thing where the audio starts just as soon as you see an image. It's most noticeable during previews and opening logos cause each clip switchs audio codes and that's where I get th delay. Wether it's switching from Pro Logic II to DolbynDigital or Dolby Digital to DTS HD MA the first few seconds of a movie is shut off. I have not done a firmware update yet. Anybody else have this problem with there NR-809?

Bump
post #4570 of 5809
Sorry, I don't think any setting would be the problem.
post #4571 of 5809
I have solved the NET "now initializing" problem. First of all when I tried again to open NET and it was working. I realised that when I opened my laptop, NET function stucked again. So I think that AVR and laptop crashed. So I wanted to make a clean router to get new IPs. Also I installed on my laptop several DLNA server before. I removed all servers from my laptop, reset the router to factory settings and than I tried NET option and it is perfectly working. No more stuck on "now initializing". I hope it will be useable for everyone.
post #4572 of 5809
I am considering the TX-NR809 to replace my current Denon AVR-3300 that has provided a reliable service for over 10 yrs.. I have read about reliabilty problems with this unit...Can anybody comment on this....I live overseas and reliability is an important consideration.....

The TX-NR809 I am looking is an Open Box in the mid $600's...since this receiver is no longer available...

Thanks for your feedback....
post #4573 of 5809
Quote:
Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

I am considering the TX-NR809 to replace my current Denon AVR-3300 that has provided a reliable service for over 10 yrs.. I have read about reliabilty problems with this unit...Can anybody comment on this....I live overseas and reliability is an important consideration.....
The TX-NR809 I am looking is an Open Box in the mid $600's...since this receiver is no longer available...
Thanks for your feedback....

Any comments?

Are Onkyo receivers made in China or Japan, or some place else?
post #4574 of 5809
Is this thread "DEAD"?
post #4575 of 5809
I hope not - I was looking at getting this receiver so I"m interested in its performance. In some ways no posts means either no one has 'complaints' about it - or they've all sold/replaced theirs!!!
post #4576 of 5809
Quote:
Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

Any comments?
Are Onkyo receivers made in China or Japan, or some place else?

Made in Malaysia
post #4577 of 5809
Quote:
Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

Is this thread "DEAD"?

The thread is not dead, but not as active as it used to be as this model has been replaced with the next year's offerings. I have no knowledge of your current receiver, so can't compare the 809 to it.

Keep in mind the receivers of 2012 are far more complex than those of 10 years ago, so there is more of a learning curve.

The only problem I see with real regularity here is an occasional HDMI input or output problem. One of mine developed a problem. My solution was to simply change to another connection and all has been well for months now. If I reset the unit back to factory default, it likely would have "fixed" that, but I had made many adjustments including the Audyssey calibration, and I didn't want to have to redo all that. When I upgrade speakers, I'll probably try the reset. With the 8 HDMI inputs, if one goes bad, I really don't care anyway at this point.

The 809 replaced a cheaper, older Onkyo, and I have loved it. Sound quality has been excellent. It is a beast at around 40 lbs.

Hope this helps.
post #4578 of 5809
thanks....I understand it was replaced by the TX-NR818..however I like the 809 since it appears they eliminated the ext in. analog inputs on the TX-NR818.. I have been considering the TX-NR1009 for $999, but I don't see a major difference between the two for over $300+? I have been considering the Marantz 6006/7005, Yamaha Aventage RX-A2001, but a higher price....Spec wise the Onkyo compares very favorably with those units.

What's your take on this?

Thanks again,
post #4579 of 5809
Quote:
Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

thanks....I understand it was replaced by the TX-NR818..however I like the 809 since it appears they eliminated the ext in. analog inputs on the TX-NR818.. I have been considering the TX-NR1009 for $999, but I don't see a major difference between the two for over $300+? I have been considering the Marantz 6006/7005, Yamaha Aventage RX-A2001, but a higher price....Spec wise the Onkyo compares very favorably with those units.
What's your take on this?
Thanks again,

Wow, you're right. None of the new Onkyos has the multi-channel inputs. However, unless you intend to connect an older universal player that does not have HDMI, I don't see how that is a big issue.

I have the 809, and it has been great. I don't really see much advantage for the 1009 over the 809, unless you can implement 9.2 audio. Power wise, I don't see any significant difference, and they weigh the same.
post #4580 of 5809
I like to have the multichannel inputs...they have allowed to keep using my Denon AVR-3300 (12 yrs. old) with then newer Dobly'DTS loose formats. I purchase a Panansonic DMB-BD80 and ran its 5/6 analog outputs to the Denon Multichannel inputs and extended its life a few yrs.....its insurance against obsolence......the way I see it....May main conecern with the Onkyos are some horror stories with units burning out (re: Amazon reviews) and poor customer service....I was ready to pull the plug, but these and other stories has lowered my entusiasm.....

On the other hand, If I decide to go thru, I will probably buy Onkyo's extended warranty on their website...Still Customer Support horror stories are another worry....

For how long have you had yours?

Thanks for you sharing your experience.....
post #4581 of 5809
Quote:
Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

I like to have the multichannel inputs...they have allowed to keep using my Denon AVR-3300 (12 yrs. old) with then newer Dobly'DTS loose formats. I purchase a Panansonic DMB-BD80 and ran its 5/6 analog outputs to the Denon Multichannel inputs and extended its life a few yrs.....its insurance against obsolence......the way I see it....May main conecern with the Onkyos are some horror stories with units burning out (re: Amazon reviews) and poor customer service....I was ready to pull the plug, but these and other stories has lowered my entusiasm.....
On the other hand, If I decide to go thru, I will probably buy Onkyo's extended warranty on their website...Still Customer Support horror stories are another worry....
For how long have you had yours?
Thanks for you sharing your experience.....

I purchased the 809 in July 2011. So far, it has worked perfectly. Now, an Onkyo 608 that I installed at my parents house did have the HDMI section fail after about two years.
post #4582 of 5809
Quote:
Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

I like to have the multichannel inputs...they have allowed to keep using my Denon AVR-3300 (12 yrs. old) with then newer Dobly'DTS loose formats. I purchase a Panansonic DMB-BD80 and ran its 5/6 analog outputs to the Denon Multichannel inputs and extended its life a few yrs.....its insurance against obsolence......the way I see it....May main conecern with the Onkyos are some horror stories with units burning out (re: Amazon reviews) and poor customer service....I was ready to pull the plug, but these and other stories has lowered my entusiasm.....
On the other hand, If I decide to go thru, I will probably buy Onkyo's extended warranty on their website...Still Customer Support horror stories are another worry....
For how long have you had yours?
Thanks for you sharing your experience.....

The biggest difference between 809 and 818 is not what it loses (old technology like s video inputs) but what it gains.

The best feature about the 809 is Audyssey XT. The 818 has the XT32 flavour, a huge step up in technology.

Anything coming in through the Analog inputs BYPASSES these features. I know what you are saying, but that's because you haven't heard them. Ditch your Analog mindset? If buying now, I would get 818, regardless of price difference.

I have the 809, the only issues I have had were Operator error. When connecting HDMI, make sure everything is powered down. These Onkyos run cool now, fans never activate, and I think reliability is fine. But don't underestimate the lack of customer service.

Buy from a dealer you can walk into, or live near a service centre. Keep your old Denon as a backup.
post #4583 of 5809
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reddig View Post

My NR-809 has a problem with cutting off the first few seconds of audio when it switchs to a new audio codec. I am using an HDMI cable for audio and video. Say I put in a Bluray and the 20th century Fox logo and music starts up, the first few seconds of audio will not play. Logo will apear on screen than the audio code shows up on the avr display than i hear audio. I never get to hear the very first opening drum roll of the Fox logo or any other thing where the audio starts just as soon as you see an image. It's most noticeable during previews and opening logos cause each clip switchs audio codes and that's where I get th delay. Wether it's switching from Pro Logic II to DolbynDigital or Dolby Digital to DTS HD MA the first few seconds of a movie is shut off. I have not done a firmware update yet. Anybody else have this problem with there NR-809?

Do you ever use your BR player for 2 channel formats, eg Cd? I am suspecting that your BR default player listening mode is either Stereo, Direct or Pure. And when the BR player switches to multichannel, audio, and a different Listening Mode, then clicks and delays may occurr.

I recommend using your Display or Home button to get the exact audio formats coming into the 809, before and after the issue, and looking to set up the Listening Mode Presets to eliminate this. I recommend Straight Decode.
Edited by wl1 - 10/7/12 at 2:37pm
post #4584 of 5809
Quote:
Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

thanks....I understand it was replaced by the TX-NR818..however I like the 809 since it appears they eliminated the ext in. analog inputs on the TX-NR818.. I have been considering the TX-NR1009 for $999, but I don't see a major difference between the two for over $300+? I have been considering the Marantz 6006/7005, Yamaha Aventage RX-A2001, but a higher price....Spec wise the Onkyo compares very favorably with those units.
What's your take on this?
Thanks again,

Just my opinion: At some point receiver users have to decide to maintain digital sources through to the receiver, to make best use of the receiver hardware and software. You can upgrade individual pieces of hardware to get better DACs for example, or stay in the digital domain and use the quality DAC in the receiver. Similarly, if you want to make use of Audyssey room correction (and once you hear it, I'll bet you never look back) that process all happens in the digital domain. If I bought today, I would pay extra for the XT32 version, because it has a dramatically different correction for the critical bass frequencies, and I would want that. Wl1 makes that same point, and his thoughts are very well thought of and documented throughout this thread.
post #4585 of 5809
I plan to use digital connections....my comments on the analog inputs is more on obsolence protection...future audio codecs I may be able to use analog inputs and don't buy a new receiver. That's what I did with my current setup that does not have hdmi inputs/outputs....bought a blue ray players with Dolby/DTS True HD decodification thru analog inputs and fed into the Denon External analog inputs...I think I am using five cables to feed the receiver w/o subwoffer.....was able to keep my setup for a few years....

thks for your feedback
post #4586 of 5809
Quote:
Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

I plan to use digital connections....my comments on the analog inputs is more on obsolence protection...future audio codecs I may be able to use analog inputs and don't buy a new receiver. That's what I did with my current setup that does not have hdmi inputs/outputs....bought a blue ray players with Dolby/DTS True HD decodification thru analog inputs and fed into the Denon External analog inputs...I think I am using five cables to feed the receiver w/o subwoffer.....was able to keep my setup for a few years....
thks for your feedback

Are you sure the two models you mention don't have analog inputs? In their manuals, I see several analog audio inputs listed under specs in the Appendix section...?
post #4587 of 5809
Quote:
Originally Posted by rblum View Post

Are you sure the two models you mention don't have analog inputs? In their manuals, I see several analog audio inputs listed under specs in the Appendix section...?

Yes the new Onkyo models include some two-channel analog inputs, but what is at issue here is whether they have a MULTI-CHANNEL input, which they don't. People who have high-end universal disc players like the receiver to have the multi-channel input so they can hear the sound as decoded by the player.
post #4588 of 5809
I think the person I replied to was concerned with the analog being there for future use, not that he wanted to normally use analog inputs - though your point remains valid anyway. I'd say if high end players that are designed primarily for analog out are desired, separate preamp or processor coupled with an amplifier is probably a better solution rather than a receiver.
post #4589 of 5809
Quote:
Originally Posted by rblum View Post

I think the person I replied to was concerned with the analog being there for future use, not that he wanted to normally use analog inputs - though your point remains valid anyway. I'd say if high end players that are designed primarily for analog out are desired, separate preamp or processor coupled with an amplifier is probably a better solution rather than a receiver.

It was me you replied to, and you are corrrect. My main issue with the multi-channel analog inputs was protection against obsolescence, since I plan to use digital connections. Regarding your last comments on the pre-amp/processor, my main issue will be the cost of going that route. A receiver provides a suitable solution at an effective entry price for my current needs....Does not mean I don't agree with the point you are trying to make...

thanks....
post #4590 of 5809
^^
Your old Denon doesn't feature Audyssey. Once you hear the benefits of using Audyssey (of any flavor, although especially XT32), you may be hard pressed to want to fall back to multi analog inputs which won't be able to use Audyssey.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Receivers, Amps, and Processors
AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Receivers, Amps, and Processors › "Official" Onkyo TX-NR809 Thread