Originally Posted by mtrot
I guess it is possible if you have been really cranking the volume to 75% that the tweeters did get blown. Usually this occurs as a result of the amplifier "clipping" which sounds like sharp "popping" sounds.
The 809 is not really THAT much more powerful, at least according to specs. But I do believe most of why it weighs more is the larger transformer, and it can deliver more watts of dynamic power, which is important for transient peaks.
809: 40.3 pounds
300 W (3 ohms, 1 ch)
250 W (4 ohms, 1 ch)
150 W (8 ohms, 1 ch)
709: 26.9 pounds
250 W (3 ohms, 1 ch)
220 W (4 ohms, 1 ch)
130 W (8 ohms, 1 ch)
HT-RC360: 24.7 pounds
240 W (3 ohms, 1 ch)
210 W (4 ohms, 1 ch)
120 W (8 ohms, 1 ch)
So, as you can see, the 360 is the least powerful of the three. Considering that you do like to crank it up, I would think that the 809 is a no-brainer, because it can handle it better by itself, and also will allow you to add a separate amp later if you choose.
I can definitely see that. The 709 isn't even an option it costs more than the 809 lol. The 809 just dropped AGAIN to 450 so like everyone is saying it's a steal. What you just described there is the exact reason I was thinking of upgrading. The 809 weighs a lot more which lead me to believe as well that is has a bigger transformer and the option of an amplifier sounds amazing. I could run my Monitor 70s off that Emotiva 3x200 amplifier and add a CS2 center channel as well, and let the receiver run the surrounds. That sounds like a great deal though and especially since it has more power and can take care of my tweeters so I don't blow more.
Originally Posted by myoda
It's heavier than the 709 also. It has a lager power supply. Personally, I think it's better looking than the 709. I had a 709 for a couple of weeks, then returned it when Amazon had a refurb 809 available for $418. That is a great price for a new 809. The difference in power is negligible between the rc360 and the 809. What were you listening to when you blew out your tweeters? What were you drinking? lol. Here's a good article:
If you want some party speakers, pick up some old Cerwin-Vega speakers on Craigslist.
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This is a little different than the quote I quoted above me so I guess this is what will be making me hold off on this decision for a second until I'm sure. The 809 and RC360 weigh a whole 15 lbs different. Like the post I quoted above, this leads me to believe it has a larger transformer and can deliver more power (I'm a noob I don't know terminology so yes I sound stupid lol. I'd think maybe the 709 and the RC360 are on par. There is very little difference between the two feature wise, weight wise, etc.
As for what was I listening to when the tweeters blew? I'm not very sure.
The last songs on my itunes to be played were at 3:30 in the morning:
One More Drink - Ludacris
Armin Van Buuren - Drowning
I Can't Stop - Flux Pavillion
Got to Know - Flux Pavillion
Me & You - Cassie
Marvin and Chardonnay - Big Sean
My guess is Marvin and Chardonnay blew the tweeters as I was playing at 75% and I know full well when that song comes on I need to turn my speakers down as it's extremely loud treble wise.
What was I drinking lol? I dunno, I woke up and a 100 proof espresso smirnoff bottle was gone, there were about 6 3 liter sodas gone out of my fridge, a cheap vodka on my table that was killed, and I know it was a new one since we killed a bottle of that at my friends apartment before even going out. My memories of the night are very very vague. I know there were multiple people grinding on eachother, my boy was getting the ride of his life on the couch by some girl.
As for party speakers, those speakers look really heavy duty for like an actual party room. Like the ones we actually have in our party room at my fraternity. My room is only 12 by 12, the Monitor 70s are more than enough I would think to play music at club volume levels in a small room lol. Since having the Monitor 70s in my room I'd say my room is packed Thursday through Saturday with at least 20 people. I'm always unsure how that many people fit in one small ass room, but it always is packed and a raging party/after party spot lol.
Originally Posted by 67jason
Should you choose the 809, you will be pleasantly pleased with the performance the 70s have running off it.....I know I am.
I'm already VERY happy with the Monitor 70s. I want the Klipsch RF-7s or RTis but to be honest I'm so happy with these at the moment the only upgrade I'm considering is the new receiver with pre outs and and an amplifier to see the full potential of these speakers.
Originally Posted by terp2007
I have the 809 with a set of Monitor 70s, CS2 center, and Klipsh RW-12d sub. I tend to have the volume around 45-50 for TV watching. Is this normal or do I need to some calibrating? For movies I have no problem putting it up to 65-70.
I'd say that's really loud? Are you sure something isn't broken? The only time I have it at 45-50 it's VERY loud for TV. 65-70 for a movie is close to unbearable. Unless the 809 has a different maximum volume it would seem something is off? That's just my opinion though my maximum volume is 80 on my HT-RC360 and I have the same thing you do, except I don't have a CS2 center yet. Same sub though. Treble is at +6. My normal listening levels are 25-40 for TV. 40-55 for a movie depending on how loud I can tolerate it. If I have my Sub at 0db, and I turn it up to 60 past 60 it's unbearable to listen to. Also depends on your room size though I have a 12 by 12 room about so if you have a bigger room I don't know! Still seems a little odd.
Edit: After rereading the thread and realizing the volume levels are different, your 45/50 is my 25-40 probably. Your 65-70 is my 55-60 which is what I use for movies. Assuming I'm right and the max level is 99 for the 809, then it seems perfectly fine. Hell, considering you are using the 809 which outputs more power you definitely are doing fine.Edit:
Originally Posted by siddavis
Just ordered mine at $450 from Amazon. Ask for a pricematch if you got it for more than that. I was looking to go Denon, but this is too good of a deal to pass up.
I admittedly have not scoured this thread yet, but does anyone know if you can display two different sources simultaneously via the two HDMI outs?
VERY CURIOUS about this as well. If so this will be purchased right away. Being able to watch Football games and still play Halo would be amazing.Edited by tential - 12/20/12 at 6:21pm