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post #4771 of 5259
12/28/12 at 6:28am
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I think only TVs have that policy. link

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post #4772 of 5259
12/28/12 at 6:46am
So far so good with the 809. I ran Audyssey last night and wanted to get everyone's input regarding the crossover settings. After running Audyssey, I received the following crossover points for my speakers:

Center - Polk CSi A6 - 50 Hz
Mains - Polk RTi A5 - 40 HZ
Surrounds - Polk RTi A1 - 50 Hz

My subwoofer is a Hsu VTF2 MK2. Do you all recommend raising the crossover to 80 Hz to take a load off the 809 during loud movie scenes? If not, I am just going to leave them where Audyssey set them at.
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post #4773 of 5259
12/28/12 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by overwilhelmed View Post

So far so good with the 809. I ran Audyssey last night and wanted to get everyone's input regarding the crossover settings. After running Audyssey, I received the following crossover points for my speakers:
Center - Polk CSi A6 - 50 Hz
Mains - Polk RTi A5 - 40 HZ
Surrounds - Polk RTi A1 - 50 Hz
My subwoofer is a Hsu VTF2 MK2. Do you all recommend raising the crossover to 80 Hz to take a load off the 809 during loud movie scenes? If not, I am just going to leave them where Audyssey set them at.

As I said above to another Audyssey poster just above, it is better to read the dedicated Audyssey Guide, as for the many reasons why it is better to take the crossover up to 80Hz. And to understand that it was the Onkyo that selected the Crossovers, not Audyssey (albeit a moot point, as it was based on the info Audyssey passed to it).

Short answers - make them all 80Hz.
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post #4774 of 5259
12/28/12 at 3:51pm
Just got my 809. When in the menu, under speaker setup, it only gives options to set speakers to 6 or 4 ohm speakers. I have klipsch rf82ii and rc62ii which are 8 ohm speakers. Is this s problem?
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post #4775 of 5259
12/28/12 at 3:54pm
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Originally Posted by cdub5 View Post

Just got my 809. When in the menu, under speaker setup, it only gives options to set speakers to 6 or 4 ohm speakers. I have klipsch rf82ii and rc62ii which are 8 ohm speakers. Is this s problem?

Not a problem at all. Set it to the 6 ohm setting.
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post #4776 of 5259
12/28/12 at 4:13pm
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Not a problem at all. Set it to the 6 ohm setting.

Thanks, now to tackle all the settings
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post #4777 of 5259
12/29/12 at 5:04am
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Anyone able to get their ipod/iphone displayed on the TV? Music plays, but it says to press extended 'MODE" which does nothing.
Yes. Unfortunately the "mode" button on the remote doesn't work. You have to press the "tuning mode" button on the receiver, which is just above and a little left of the USB port. The TV interface is crude, but you can use your Onkyo remote to operate the iPod.
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post #4778 of 5259
12/29/12 at 11:37am
Hey everyone, I had a question. I just got my 809 and set it up bi amp with 2x Polk rti a5 speakers. I was wondering what the volume should be at in general. I have to raise it to 50 to get anywhere and I feel like that's a little high and I might have something set up wrong. I haven't run the calibration yet either. I did choose bi amp under the settings and also told the 809 I only had the left and right main, but since I'm in bi amp, should I set it up so that the surround are also on since those channels are feeding the two mains, or does the system already take that into account? Also, if I missed anything that I should have done, let me know. Thanks in advance for your help. I'll be reading the manual.
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post #4779 of 5259
12/29/12 at 12:16pm
Can this receiver support 4k passthrough? Not upscaling per se, but, actual passthrough just on the off chance that "real" 4k sources / tvs become a reality in my household within the life of the receiver. I managed to dig up an older thread about it which seemed to suggest the answer was no, but, something more definite would be appreciated!

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1414938/receivers-or-pre-pros-with-4k-pass-through
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post #4780 of 5259
12/29/12 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf... View Post

Howdy all, finally upgraded from my nearly 20 yr old Onkyo Integra TX-SV 909 Pro. Wow the TX-NR 809 is amazing and at an amazing $427 compared to the $1800 the 909 cost, what a deal! Thanks Amazon!
Got it all setup and mostly dialed in and am deeply in love...
My question is do you ever see the two cooling fans running?
After a couple hrs of moderately heavy use with it completely in the open, it seems to get pretty toasty and I haven't noticed the fans ever running. I'm a bit concerned due to the seemingly high failure rate of the main board or HDMI board or so I've read.
I'm thinking about rigging in a larger PC fan some how to help keep it cooler.
Any thoughts would be appreciated?
Thanks

When I finish a movie on blu-ray, which I crank pretty hard, they are running for a few minutes. I can hear them easily when I go sit down at my player to remove the disc and all is quiet.
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post #4781 of 5259
12/29/12 at 12:53pm
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Originally Posted by spellitlikethis View Post

Hey everyone, I had a question. I just got my 809 and set it up bi amp with 2x Polk rti a5 speakers. I was wondering what the volume should be at in general. I have to raise it to 50 to get anywhere and I feel like that's a little high and I might have something set up wrong. I haven't run the calibration yet either. I did choose bi amp under the settings and also told the 809 I only had the left and right main, but since I'm in bi amp, should I set it up so that the surround are also on since those channels are feeding the two mains, or does the system already take that into account? Also, if I missed anything that I should have done, let me know. Thanks in advance for your help. I'll be reading the manual.

Volume level at 50 is normal for these receivers. On my 809, we usually listen at a level of 70. Is your volume set for relative or absolute? Bi-amping from a receiver does little to add to the output of your speakers, but try it with or without the bi-amp option. If you've already selected bi-amp mode in the receiver, then you should be good to go - but realize that you give up the option in the future to use a pair of surround back speakers with the bi-amp feature engaged. The general consensus on AVS is to add an outboard power amp to the pre-outs on your 809 for more juice to drive your rtiA5 speakers.
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post #4782 of 5259
12/29/12 at 2:31pm
Anyone using a Viewsonic Pro8200 projector driven by the 809? If so, we're you able to find the remote codes using the search feature? So far I haven't had any luck (just set mine up today). What about a Roku box (xds) as an input (I think my remote is RF, but perhaps IR codes will work too.
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post #4783 of 5259
12/29/12 at 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

Volume level at 50 is normal for these receivers. On my 809, we usually listen at a level of 70. Is your volume set for relative or absolute? Bi-amping from a receiver does little to add to the output of your speakers, but try it with or without the bi-amp option. If you've already selected bi-amp mode in the receiver, then you should be good to go - but realize that you give up the option in the future to use a pair of surround back speakers with the bi-amp feature engaged. The general consensus on AVS is to add an outboard power amp to the pre-outs on your 809 for more juice to drive your rtiA5 speakers.

Mine is relative, and I watch at 0.0 on blu-rays with lossless smile.gif
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post #4784 of 5259
12/29/12 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

Volume level at 50 is normal for these receivers. On my 809, we usually listen at a level of 70. Is your volume set for relative or absolute? Bi-amping from a receiver does little to add to the output of your speakers, but try it with or without the bi-amp option. If you've already selected bi-amp mode in the receiver, then you should be good to go - but realize that you give up the option in the future to use a pair of surround back speakers with the bi-amp feature engaged. The general consensus on AVS is to add an outboard power amp to the pre-outs on your 809 for more juice to drive your rtiA5 speakers.

I'm not sure what absolute and relative volume are =(

And I do know that for now, I'm not gonna be able to use the full 7 speakers becaus dog biamping, but since this is my first system and it will probably be a while before I can upgrade or add again, I'm ok with the loss of function. So far everything sounds great. I'm still reading over that manual slowly looking for anything I may have done wrong. What's up with the relative and absolute sound? Thanks.
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post #4785 of 5259
12/29/12 at 6:02pm
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Originally Posted by spellitlikethis View Post

I'm not sure what absolute and relative volume are =(
And I do know that for now, I'm not gonna be able to use the full 7 speakers becaus dog biamping, but since this is my first system and it will probably be a while before I can upgrade or add again, I'm ok with the loss of function. So far everything sounds great. I'm still reading over that manual slowly looking for anything I may have done wrong. What's up with the relative and absolute sound? Thanks.

Page 59 of the owners manual:
Volume Display
Absolute:
Displayed range is Min, 0.5 to 99.5, Max.
Relative (THX):
Displayed range is –dB, –81.5dB to +18.0dB.
With this setting, you can choose how the volume level is
displayed.
The absolute value 82 is equivalent to the relative value
0 dB.
Note
• If the absolute value is set to 82, “82Ref” will appear on the
display and the THX indicator will flash.
82Ref is reference level.
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post #4786 of 5259
12/29/12 at 9:19pm
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

Volume level at 50 is normal for these receivers. On my 809, we usually listen at a level of 70. Is your volume set for relative or absolute? .

Just curious about why this is so. I'm coming from a Yamaha rxv671. Not as much juice as the 809, but when watching movies, the yammy would be at -12 -10db on average. The 809 I'm at -6db -4db on average for the same movies. I would think the more power this avr has over the yammy would mean having to not turn the volume louder and having more head room? I plan to add an external amp, probably emotiva xpa-3, in the future. Will that have any effect on volume level. Btw, I have klipsch reference 82/62 in front.
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post #4787 of 5259
12/29/12 at 9:25pm
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

Page 59 of the owners manual:
Volume Display
Absolute:
Displayed range is Min, 0.5 to 99.5, Max.
Relative (THX):
Displayed range is –dB, –81.5dB to +18.0dB.
With this setting, you can choose how the volume level is
displayed.
The absolute value 82 is equivalent to the relative value
0 dB.
Note
• If the absolute value is set to 82, “82Ref” will appear on the
display and the THX indicator will flash.
82Ref is reference level.

Wow, thanks for such an in-depth answer! Mine is set to Abolute, so I've been running things at between 45ish and 65ish. Anything more (depending on source) and it sometimes gets a little heavy. So far, I'm loving these. Thanks for the support! Happy Holidays.
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post #4788 of 5259
12/30/12 at 4:55am
For anyone curious about the subwoofer pre-amp output voltage capability of the TX-NR809... I measured the amplitude yesterday. It starts to clip around 23Vpp (volts peak to peak). That's ~8Vrms with a sine wave.
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post #4789 of 5259
12/30/12 at 9:53am
I would like to hook up my TX-NR809 to my home intercom system so that whatever is playing on the receiver (digital or analog content) is sent to the analog audio inputs of the intercom in addition to the HDMI output to my monitor.

From what I understand, analog audio out is not supported in the receiver; however, I wonder if anyone here has found a solution.

One idea I had was to use a HDMI to AV converter (input HDMI / output analog stereo and composite or component video) and hook it up to the second HDMI output on the receiver. I found a couple of devices that are relatively inexpensive (<$75). Has anyone tried this?

Is there a better solution out there?

Thanks in advance!
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post #4790 of 5259
12/30/12 at 2:56pm
Just hooked mine up. So far it seems OK but I had a question about how warm/cool the unit should feel when in standby, but passing an HDMI signal through.

Mine gets a little warm, Im guessing its normal but figured I would ask. I havent tested pulling the HDMI sources and seeing if the unit stays cool, but Im assuming its the HDMI pass through staying on thats warming it up?

Thanks in advance.

-Chris
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post #4791 of 5259
12/30/12 at 7:34pm
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Just hooked mine up. So far it seems OK but I had a question about how warm/cool the unit should feel when in standby, but passing an HDMI signal through.
Mine gets a little warm, Im guessing its normal but figured I would ask. I havent tested pulling the HDMI sources and seeing if the unit stays cool, but Im assuming its the HDMI pass through staying on thats warming it up?
Thanks in advance.
-Chris

I noticed that...I thought I read somewhere, maybe on this forum, that this receiver has a relatively high power comsumption in standby mode.......Is that so, that's probably why it runs warm.....
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post #4792 of 5259
12/30/12 at 8:34pm
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I noticed that...I thought I read somewhere, maybe on this forum, that this receiver has a relatively high power comsumption in standby mode.......Is that so, that's probably why it runs warm.....
My 809 runs cool in standby and in normal operation - my 806 was sometimes fried egg hot under load.
Edited by myoda - 12/30/12 at 8:40pm
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post #4793 of 5259
12/30/12 at 8:59pm
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My 809 runs cool in standby and in normal operation - my 806 was sometimes fried egg hot under load.

Hmm, wonder if something is wrong with mine, or if its a settings difference between ours.

Obviously when unplugged the metal case is cold to the touch but when plugged in and running HDMI pass through it gets warm. Not anywhere near hot, just a little warm.

Kids watched a BR tonight, and even though it wasnt action packed with the receiver pegged at high volume, it didnt get any warmer than it is at "idle" in standby.
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post #4794 of 5259
12/31/12 at 1:32am
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Originally Posted by chrisexv6 View Post

Just hooked mine up. So far it seems OK but I had a question about how warm/cool the unit should feel when in standby, but passing an HDMI signal through.
Mine gets a little warm, Im guessing its normal but figured I would ask. I havent tested pulling the HDMI sources and seeing if the unit stays cool, but Im assuming its the HDMI pass through staying on thats warming it up?
Thanks in advance.
-Chris

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Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

I noticed that...I thought I read somewhere, maybe on this forum, that this receiver has a relatively high power comsumption in standby mode.......Is that so, that's probably why it runs warm.....

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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

My 809 runs cool in standby and in normal operation - my 806 was sometimes fried egg hot under load.

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Originally Posted by chrisexv6 View Post

Hmm, wonder if something is wrong with mine, or if its a settings difference between ours.
Obviously when unplugged the metal case is cold to the touch but when plugged in and running HDMI pass through it gets warm. Not anywhere near hot, just a little warm.
Kids watched a BR tonight, and even though it wasnt action packed with the receiver pegged at high volume, it didnt get any warmer than it is at "idle" in standby.



I was concerned about it as well after reading this in the manual -

"Standby power consumption - In the following cases, the power consumption in standby mode may reach up to a maximum of 75 W:
– You are using the Universal Port jack.
–“Network Control” is set to “Enable” in the “Network” setting.
–“HDMI Control(RIHD)” setting is set to “On”.
(Depending on the TV status, the AV receiver
will enter standby mode as usual.)
–The “HDMI Through” setting is set to other than “Off”. 18, 60, 62"

The only thing I had enabled above was network control and the next day I felt the top and it was slightly warm to the touch over the main board. I hooked up my Kill-A-Watt meter and discovered that it was eating up a little over 50 Watts in standby! just by having network control enabled??? eek.gif

So I tried turning off network control and checked again in standby and it is now reading ZERO Watts.tongue.gif There should be an option to only enable network control when unit is on. Guess I'll just have to turn it on when I want to tinker with my iPhone app.

Makes me wonder if that's why there are so many reports of boards going bad. With network control enabled and HDMI Through enabled, I bet it does eat up 75+ Watts, that's probably why your noticing the heat in standby. Can't be good for the components long term, I'm keeping the stuff off unless needed on mine, just a waste of money anyway, 50 to 75+ Watts burning away 24/7. No thanks...
Edited by Sabrewulf... - 12/31/12 at 1:38am
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post #4795 of 5259
12/31/12 at 5:07am
The only thing in that list i have enabled is HDMI through. One of the main reasons got it is to act like an HDMI switch. If i have to turn off HDMI through then what's the point.

I don't have a kill a watt so i can't measure the power draw.... would hate to send the thing back just because of this.
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post #4796 of 5259
12/31/12 at 6:55am
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The only thing in that list i have enabled is HDMI through. One of the main reasons got it is to act like an HDMI switch. If i have to turn off HDMI through then what's the point.
I don't have a kill a watt so i can't measure the power draw.... would hate to send the thing back just because of this.

I have network control enable off, perhaps that is why my runs cold. It actually runs very cool when cranking it during a movie. I had a fan on top of the 806 to keep it cool when it was in my living room. If you have a DVR or TV, those draw current when in standby.
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post #4797 of 5259
12/31/12 at 8:49am
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I have network control enable off, perhaps that is why my runs cold. It actually runs very cool when cranking it during a movie. I had a fan on top of the 806 to keep it cool when it was in my living room. If you have a DVR or TV, those draw current when in standby.

I have everything off except for HDMI pass through and it still gets warm.

Going to borrow a Kill-A-Watt later today to see just how much power it draws. To me its not so much the power (as long as its within reason) but the fact that it gets warm and heat = bad for electronics. The HDMI section of Onkyo receivers seems to be bad enough all by itself, add constant heat to it and Im sure that makes it even worse (or maybe thats even the cause of the issues to begin with)

I just disabled HDMI pass through and will see if it gets ice cold like its drawing almost zero power.
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post #4798 of 5259
12/31/12 at 8:50am
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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf... View Post

There should be an option to only enable network control when unit is on. Guess I'll just have to turn it on when I want to tinker with my iPhone app.
Makes me wonder if that's why there are so many reports of boards going bad. With network control enabled and HDMI Through enabled, I bet it does eat up 75+ Watts, that's probably why your noticing the heat in standby. Can't be good for the components long term, I'm keeping the stuff off unless needed on mine, just a waste of money anyway, 50 to 75+ Watts burning away 24/7. No thanks...

If network control was disabled until the unit was turned on, you wouldn't be able to turn it on by network control...smile.gif 50 watts seems like a lot, but as for temperature, these units don't really ever get hot in my experience, so I doubt there are thermal issues in any failures...
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post #4799 of 5259
12/31/12 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by rblum View Post

If network control was disabled until the unit was turned on, you wouldn't be able to turn it on by network control...smile.gif 50 watts seems like a lot, but as for temperature, these units don't really ever get hot in my experience, so I doubt there are thermal issues in any failures...

If I grab a Kill A Watt today Im going to try and measure the various permutations of stuff that would use power in standby. HDMI pass through, network control, etc. Whatever Onkyo lists in the manual that can increase standby power usage.
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12/31/12 at 11:53am
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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf... View Post

I was concerned about it as well after reading this in the manual -
"Standby power consumption - In the following cases, the power consumption in standby mode may reach up to a maximum of 75 W:
– You are using the Universal Port jack.
–“Network Control” is set to “Enable” in the “Network” setting.
–“HDMI Control(RIHD)” setting is set to “On”.
(Depending on the TV status, the AV receiver
will enter standby mode as usual.)
–The “HDMI Through” setting is set to other than “Off”. 18, 60, 62"
The only thing I had enabled above was network control and the next day I felt the top and it was slightly warm to the touch over the main board. I hooked up my Kill-A-Watt meter and discovered that it was eating up a little over 50 Watts in standby! just by having network control enabled??? eek.gif
So I tried turning off network control and checked again in standby and it is now reading ZERO Watts.tongue.gif There should be an option to only enable network control when unit is on. Guess I'll just have to turn it on when I want to tinker with my iPhone app.
Makes me wonder if that's why there are so many reports of boards going bad. With network control enabled and HDMI Through enabled, I bet it does eat up 75+ Watts, that's probably why your noticing the heat in standby. Can't be good for the components long term, I'm keeping the stuff off unless needed on mine, just a waste of money anyway, 50 to 75+ Watts burning away 24/7. No thanks...

I think that was what I recalled reading...like 75W in standby...it appears then it should have had all these features enabled....I will try switching most of, though I have HDMI pass thru enabled to watch TV thru TV speakers and not having to turn on the receiver and used the main HT speakers...

Thanks for your very informative post.....
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