"Official" Onkyo TX-NR809 Thread - Page 165

My HDMI board marking is 27xx0812. I have both NET and HDMI passthrough turned on. It has been working fine for a week now. The area directly above the board is slightly warm (reading 38C on my infrared thermometer). It will be good to find out of this is the "upgraded" version of the HDMI board.

Unfortunaely it looks like you're not "out of the woods" until (maybe not coincidentally?) shortly after the warranty period expires. Looks like people have the issue pop up years after getting the receiver. I suppose in the grand scheme of technology "years" isnt a huge deal, but when its not easily fixable it seems to be more than a minor annoyance to have to toss a piece of equipment because of one board.

If its really the capacitors it doesnt look like my board (and presumably yours too) have anything "upgraded" compared to the earlier models. They're still using lower-temp-rated caps. If the whole board was redesigned maybe its a non-issue but Id be interested to see someone with a dead 809 to compare their HDMI board to newer builds, or even better compare a dead one or my own to one thats been fixed by a servicer.

Would this be ok for a mic stand? Will the mic screw onto this or will I have to alter things??

http://www.amazon.com/Stage-Rocker-Powered-Hamilton-SR630220/dp/B0087UPRMQ/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1357779945&sr=8-9&keywords=mic+stand

New 809 received today.

Marvel Chip: 88DE2755-B1F2
HDMI Board: 28xx0812

Couldn't see/find the numbers on the right side of the board.

Hi guys,
we have noted for a couple of months now that our 809 issues white noise for a couple of seconds to all speakers when it starts up, switches input or when it syncs on a source that have changed format (e.g.: dvd from menu to movie). I don't think it was doing this before. It can be quite loud since it follows the current volume level... I hope someone has a tip how to fix this annoying issue.

Thanks for the info.

I may start a poll now, not sure if anyone will bother answering but it might be something interesting to look at.

Well I added a couple 140mm? 12v fans running at 6v to the top case above the HDMI board. Still testing, but I think it's about 20F cooler when using them, was not cranking it too much though, that's still to come.

Monitoring temps through Oremote iPhone app. Great app btw!

I'll report my HDMI board info another time, I know the date is 8/12 though.

Found an interesting post, couldn't get the remote temp code to work on my 809, wonder if there is one for it? Looks like that guy is blasting the fans, hope it helps this time. Check it out - http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/home-theater-receivers-processors-amps/63336-another-crippled-onkyo-2.html#post566294

Hey everyone. I've had my 809 for a couple of weeks now pretty much on all default settings. I've only got a stereo set up, 2 Polk Rti A5 speakers. I'm trying out Biamp right now as well. I was wondering if leaving it at default for now since I've only got two speakers is advised, or whether I should run the Audyssey Setup settings. If I should keep the Audyssey setup, are there advised settings for things like the Target Sound Curve (Movie, Music, Off), Dynamic EQ (On, Off) , Reference Level (__dB), Dynamic Volume? Also, it set my Level Calibrations for -6.5 dB. Is that normal? It seems a little quiet. Thanks for help in advance. I really wanna get these sounding right.

Is there a setting to have it upscale the mp3 or does the 809 do it automatically?

Also what does everyone listen to music with. ? Stereo? Direct? PLII? I know it's preference I am just curious

Hey guys i'm having some problems with the audio. The audio especially the voice is coming from the back speakers which i don't really like isn't it normal to have voice in the front speakers only? How can i change it so that the front speakers are playing all the voice. I also noticed that the sound is very hollow sounding i was wondering if this is from the speakers or because i have hard wood floors?

Sounds like its running in all channel stereo mode. Assuming your playing a DVD or Blueray, using just the HDMI connection? You need to make sure the audio setting on the DVD/BD player is set to bitstream, the AVR (your Onkyo) should then automatically select the correct surround mode.

Did you run through the calibration using the supplied microphone?

Really need more info to better help you.

The only thing I can relate to "up scaling" MP3's is from the manual, assume this is what your talking about? -

"Music Optimizer
■Music Optimizer `Off `On
Turn this setting on to enhance the sound quality of compressed music files. Use it with music files that use “lossy” compression, such as MP3.

Note
• The Music Optimizer function only works with PCM digital audio input signals with a sampling rate below 48 kHz and analog audio input signals. The Music Optimizer is disabled
when the Direct or Pure Audio listening mode is selected.
• The setting is stored individually for each input selector.
• The M.Opt indicator will light (➔ page 9).
• This setting is not available when the multichannel Analog input is selected."

As far as music modes, I think I like the PLII Music DSX and Studio Mix the best so far, a lot of music today uses surround mixing and if you only use a stereo mode, you will be missing out on all the multi-channel goodness. It really depends on what your listening to. I still have further tweaking to do for music, not quite dialed in just right yet, but it still sounds amazing.

Ive had my 809 for a few months now and love it. Plenty of power and I push it hard during movies. Im not a big HDMI use though, I have everything going thru an Oppo 103 so the 809 only receives audio via HDMI and passes nothing on.

Add me to the list of 809 owners. I just purchased it last night from Amazon. Hopefully I dont get a dud. I will also be purchasing the Onkyo warranty if they still allow it on an older unit. I just have to hope that I don't need to use the warranty service. I will be using it as a family room HT rig and it will be on every day for stereo and 5.1 playback. Not much will be hooked up to it though. Just and xbox 360, Sony BDP780, Sony LED TV, and a Tripplite SU1500RTXL2U UPS. I am only running a 5.1 setup through it too and it will be replacing a TX SR701.

Hopefully the setup goes smooth and I can get the audio worked out between the bluray player and the avr but if not then I know where to go.

Yeah that's it. Wherein the osd is that? I can't find it

This may or may not be a stupid question but, I am hooking up my friend's new 809 with his new DefTech 8060 towers. He already had a pair of Energy towers that he would like to hook up also. Basically this will be a 3.1 system as he has a 8040 center channel also. We are placing all four towers up front. There will not be any rear surround speakers.

What is the best way to hook up the towers? I had one set on "front wide" but wasn't getting sound from them. Will they have to run on Zone2 or can we piggy back all 4 since we are using bananas?

I'm not sure how to change that setting. I went to listening mode preset and it all says last valid. I found all ch stereo as one of the options but not bitstream. And yes i did run the calibration test but the all channel sound problem was happening before that as well. Thanks for helping btw
Edited by tfong - 1/12/13 at 10:51am

Sounds like a really bad idea to me, to try to run both the DefTechs and Energys up front. Besides the fact that the timbre probably won't match between the DefTechs and the Energys, you might want to also let him know that tower speakers in close proximity will interact with each other and screw things like bass output and imaging all up. IMO, he should just compare them, with optimal positioning for each, and choose whichever set he thinks produce the best sound. And make sure to get the speakers that are not playing away from the active speakers as much as possible.

Its found within the "Home" menu (Home button on remote). Home - Audio - Music Optimizer.


The bitstream setting is in your DVD/Bluray player audio settings not your Onkyo.

Are you using only a HDMI cable to connect the DVD/BD player to the Onkyo?

When you get it changed to bitstream and play a movie, the Onkyo will select the correct surround mode. It will actually change a few times because a DVD/BD movie's menu is usually in a different surround format than the movie itself.

When working correctly, it will show the surround mode that its in on the Onkyo's display. You'll see it switch as you go from the disc's menu to watching the movie.

Oh I'm using a wd media player i just checked the settings there's no bitstream option. The only option there is is stereo or digital pass through hdmi. When i had my old Sony receiver before the 809 it always played through the front speakers so i don't think the wd media player is causing the voices to come from the back speakers.
Edited by tfong - 1/12/13 at 11:19pm

Bitstream / Digital Pass Through - Its the same thing, set it to that and see how it goes. It also depends on the audio encoding of whatever your watching on the WD player.

Again, is it connected using only HDMI?

Ok reading the manual doesn't clarify this next question for me.

I want the television to do all the video processing. I don't want the onkyo to touch the signal. (Or do I? Does it do a good job of up scaling?))

If that's the case do I want direct? Or through?

Thanks in advance

Direct = no video processing is done by the onkyo, in theory the video signal should be passing through the avr untouched.
Through = only scaling is done by the onkyo and nothing else.

FWIW I use through on my 809. It seems to do a better job on scaling then my Mitsubishi 65738 does.

This Onkyo has superb video processing. I have a Samsung 1080p upscaling DVD player set to output at 480p so the Onkyo handles the 1080p upscaling and some noise removal (set to low) I have to say I am very impressed with the picture, much better than what the DVD player or my LG BD550 can do.

Here's some more info on the subject -

"While many folks think of the "V" in "A/V" receiver strictly in terms of switching different sources, the TX-NR809 goes beyond to offer a combination of Marvell Qdeo and IDT's HQV Vida video upscaling and processing circuits onboard. Vida offers upscaling of all 480i/p, 576p, and 720p video sources to full 1080p. The Vida processor incorporates Auto HQV and HQV StreamClean to enhance video images in real time and eliminate noise common to compressed web videos.  These lower quality sources intended for small screen computer viewing are being viewed more frequently on larger screens in the home theater now thanks to internet-connected TVs and Blu-ray players, be it free YouTube clips or paid Netflix subscriptions.  So the ability to clean these up is a welcome enhancement.

If you're starting out with higher quality video sources, HQV Vida incorporates multi-cadence tracking, expanded twelve-bit color processing and four-field motion-adaptive de-interlacing, noticeably improving the quality of both standard- and high-definition video images. Qdeo, meanwhile, goes even further to apply full 4K (3840x2160) upscaling of 1080p source signals, if you have a compatible 4K display. Granted, my ability to properly evaluate the Qdeo performance was limited on my lowly 1080p Samsung plasma panel.

Tucked away within the sub-menus for Source Setup - Picture Adjust are a host of user-selectable Picture Modes. Custom offers a list of video tweaks comparable to what we would see on a state-of-the-art display, including Edge Enhancement, separate Noise Reduction, Mosquito Noise Reduction, Random Noise Reduction and Block Noise Reduction settings, Brightness, Contrast, Hue, Saturation, Color Temperature, Gamma, and individual adjustments for the Red, Green and Blue contrast. Most of these can be set not merely to On or Off but to Low, Medium and High. We can even adjust the size/width of the image at the receiver, before it gets from the source to the display.

Someone who knows what he's doing and is willing to devote the time to the necessary trial and error can achieve some pretty amazing results, but we can also take some handy shortcuts. Dedicated Cinema, Game and Streaming modes automatically set many of the above-mentioned criteria to prescribed levels, thereby locking out most of the other adjustments in this section. Imaging Science Foundation (ISF) Day and Night modes also assure optimal, guess-free, professional-quality calibration memory presets for either lighting environment in just a few clicks. Here again, most of the adjustable video settings are locked out to the end user once they are set, to unerringly enforce the ISF's strict standards and assure that your (or your professional calibrator's) carefully derived settings are not accidentally altered or deleted. ISF video calibration technology has never before been available at such an attainable price point. The ISF feature allows for individual calibration of each source input--so a videogame console is not tweaked to the same levels as, say, the Blu-ray player--but we are strongly encouraged to employ an ISF-trained technician for any serious adjustments.

I've been generally pleased with the performance of my DISH ViP722  receiver on 720p HD channels, but TV viewing is improved even further with the HQV and Marvell's help, purging that slight digital edge to the image that I'd grown used to. Not surprisingly, the HQV processing also blew away the company's DVD and Blu-ray demo discs. Tiny lines, stable! Subtle transitions, smooth! Jaggies are rapidly becoming a thing of the past, both on test patterns (SD and HD) and real-world video. Detail is crisp and natural, some of these tests looking better than I can recall on previous gear reviews. Both Noise Reduction and Motion-Adaptive Noise Reduction were clearly effective as well.

I've still yet to see any enhancement of DVD playback that truly puts it on a par with Blu-ray, but I will say that my go-to standard-def discs (notably Gladiator) benefited from the additional video processing, rendering a clean, stable image, noticeably better than how it looks at 480p. My usual Blu-ray suspects (the lush Sleeping Beauty, the gritty Blade Runner et. al) meanwhile looked more vibrant, more filmic, if sometimes subtly so but always in a natural, pleasing fashion." - http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Onkyo-TX-NR809-Receiver-Review.shtml

Thanks! I changed it to digital pass through, its working much better now! So this whole time ive had the audio improperly set up? Jeeze haha. The only thing I'm trying to fix now is the quiet voices and all the other sounds that overpower the voices. Do you know of any way to fix this? I found a setting called dynamic something which controls the fluctuations in sounds, i changed that to medium but its still a problem.

Not sure if Im doing something wrong, but I attempted to have the Onkyo scale up to 1080p from my DirecTV receiver. The sat box is set to output 1080i, I set the Monitor Out on the Onkyo to 1080p (also tried 1080p/24) but my TV never changed from a 1080i input resolution.

Am I missing something? Does the output resolution of the D* box need to be lower than 1080i?

If the calibration was done properly, the center channel (where most dialog comes from) should be automatically set and sound pretty good. I actually had to turn mine down a bit.

How did you setup the microphone during your calibration? How many measurement points? Use a tripod or mic stand?


Picture Mode must be something other than "Direct" and here is the Resolution info -

Resolution
`Through: Select this to pass video through the AV receiver at the same resolution and with no conversion.
`Auto: Select this to have the AV receiver automatically convert video at resolutions supported by your TV.
`480p (480p/576p), 720p, 1080i, 1080p: Select the desired output resolution.
`1080p/24: Select this for 1080p output at 24 frames per second.
`4K Upscaling: Select this for an output resolution four times that of
1080p, resulting in 3840 × 2160 pixels.

You can specify the output resolution for the HDMI Output(s) and have the AV receiver upconvert the picture resolution as necessary to match the resolution supported by your TV.
Available only when “Source” has been selected in the “Resolution” of the “Monitor Out” setting.

Thanks for the great suggestions.

I tried Googling for NTRControl hoping to find some kind of functional equivalent to the Onkyo App for the PC. However, I didn't find anything that looked like any kind of receiver remote control.

Perhaps it is discontinued or perhaps the spelling is slightly off.

It's NRcontrol - http://avrnet.wordpress.com

Haven't tried it. No need at the moment, the Oremote iOS app is great, very well supported and all I need so far. If you have an iDevice, it's well worth $5. http://oremote.oriole.net/oRemote/Welcome.html

Brian H,
Just as an FYI, I do not use any of those functions such as apps, remotes ect, with my 809. The post I made was from a copy and paste from another member/user name wl1 who is very knowledgeable about the 809. He/she posted all of that good info a long time ago for newbies getting started with this bad a** 809.
Good Luck........