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post #5011 of 5812
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Originally Posted by thompjs View Post

You might try the support forum on Onkyo.com. They might have workaround for you.




I resolved it.

thanks
post #5012 of 5812
Just got an 809 about a month ago. My PS3 suddenly shows green on the TV via HDMI. I suspect it is the Onkyo. The PS3 looks normal on another TV. Anyone else ever see this issue? I have 3 days left to return. Do I have a lemon?
post #5013 of 5812
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Originally Posted by Jagged68 View Post

Just got an 809 about a month ago. My PS3 suddenly shows green on the TV via HDMI. I suspect it is the Onkyo. The PS3 looks normal on another TV. Anyone else ever see this issue? I have 3 days left to return. Do I have a lemon?

possibly an HDMI handshake issue.

try swapping a different hdmi cable or try connecting the ps3 to a different hdmi input on the avr.

If that fails, try a full reset on both the onkyo and ps3.
post #5014 of 5812
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

this message is now under the listing for this at amazon....any idea why it is there?

Item Under Review

While this item is available from other marketplace sellers on this page, it is not currently offered by Amazon.com because customers have told us there may be something wrong with our inventory of the item, the way we are shipping it, or the way it's described here. (Thanks for the tip!)

We're working to fix the problem as quickly as possible.

Doesn't say that anymore.

In my experience with amazon they post things along those line to product listings that they have received complaints regarding product accuracy or poor shipping practice. Basically amazon will halt their official sale of the items in question to determine the validity of the claims and to initiate a fix or correction.
post #5015 of 5812
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Originally Posted by 67jason View Post

possibly an HDMI handshake issue.

try swapping a different hdmi cable or try connecting the ps3 to a different hdmi input on the avr.

If that fails, try a full reset on both the onkyo and ps3.

Nothing fixed the green screen (even different inputs) until I did a reset of the 809 which did fix it.

So my question is whether this unit has HDMI issues or is this "normal" issue that can be fixed with a reset if it happens again? Again the reason I need to know fast is because I can get it back to Amazon within 30 days! Thanks guys.
post #5016 of 5812
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Originally Posted by Jagged68 View Post

Nothing fixed the green screen (even different inputs) until I did a reset of the 809 which did fix it.

So my question is whether this unit has HDMI issues or is this "normal" issue that can be fixed with a reset if it happens again? Again the reason I need to know fast is because I can get it back to Amazon within 30 days! Thanks guys.

Most (all?) Onkyo models are know for possible issues with HDMI boards. But, not ALL units would be affected. Its possible yours is just bad and you can ask for a replacement via Amazon.

While I loved the 809 when I had it, possible HDMI issues in the future scared me off. Returned to Amazon and ordered a Pioneer semi-Elite (1222K which is basically a SC-61 clone) in its place. The Onkyo really was an excellent value, especially for the price Amazon was dumping it at a month ago, but I need things to "just work" so I went another route (and honestly it looks like if you want it to "just work", buy a Yamaha.....I really wanted to low power draw and cool running of the digital amps in the Pioneer)
post #5017 of 5812
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Originally Posted by Jagged68 View Post

Nothing fixed the green screen (even different inputs) until I did a reset of the 809 which did fix it.

So my question is whether this unit has HDMI issues or is this "normal" issue that can be fixed with a reset if it happens again? Again the reason I need to know fast is because I can get it back to Amazon within 30 days! Thanks guys.

Green? Could this be the RGB/YCbCR setting in the video chain clashing? Things should work themselves out, but check your settings. Check the spec of your display, if it is equally ok with either, set it to YCbCr - I think that is most agreeable.

IIRC, green is when one RGB is being sent, and a device (Onkyo or Display) is set to YCbCr. Violet/purple when vice versa.

In your case, the AVR reset has worked, but that is not concrete proof - handshaking HDMI is notoriously bad.

There is a lot of slating of Onkyo HDMI on here, but AFAIK this was a predominant issue with earlie,r higher temperature running models.

I would keep, relax and enjoy. As I do. :-)
post #5018 of 5812
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

Green? Could this be the RGB/YCbCR setting in the video chain clashing? Things should work themselves out, but check your settings. Check the spec of your display, if it is equally ok with either, set it to YCbCr - I think that is most agreeable.

IIRC, green is when one RGB is being sent, and a device (Onkyo or Display) is set to YCbCr. Violet/purple when vice versa.

In your case, the AVR reset has worked, but that is not concrete proof - handshaking HDMI is notoriously bad.

There is a lot of slating of Onkyo HDMI on here, but AFAIK this was a predominant issue with earlie,r higher temperature running models.

I would keep, relax and enjoy. As I do. :-)

I think I will keep it, but I am a bit nervous. Onkyo has been good to me in the past. Not sure how to check the RGB/YCbCR settings though.
post #5019 of 5812
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Originally Posted by Jagged68 View Post

I think I will keep it, but I am a bit nervous. Onkyo has been good to me in the past. Not sure how to check the RGB/YCbCR settings though.

The thing I didnt like about the 809 I had (and I think they are all the same) is that it took a good 15 to 20 seconds to get HDMI out of the receiver on startup.

I really wanted to use HDMI passthrough (the kids dont need to hear Spongebob thru my AVR) but Onkyos implementation seems to use a decent amount of power (I think someone measured it at 30W just sitting there), the HDMI board stays warm 24/7, etc. So I set it to pass audio to the TV, and made sure the avr was turned on when the TV was. The 15 to 20 second delay ended up in 5-10 seconds of the TV flashing "no signal". Not the end of the world, but it was annoying.

The unit doesnt seem to get very hot, but if I ran HDMI pass through and the board was warm 24/7, I didnt think it would be long before I ended up having an issue. YMMV though. Onkyo was good to me in the past as well, but the last thing I purchased was a CD changer back in 2001. Unfortunately it looks like things have changed for them in the last 12 years. I wouldnt mind going back to Onkyo stuff but I think they need a few years of QC improvement before they become what they once were.
post #5020 of 5812
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Originally Posted by brian hammer View Post

FWIW, the first 809 that Amazon shipped to me had no working network what-so-ever. I sent it back and the replacement worked great.

If I were you, I would haul the 809 near your network switch and plug in the wired network connection to ensure that the receiver actually has a working wired network connection. If that works (e.g. you get a valid IP address and Pandora works), then the trouble is with the Wireless adapter.

Good luck.

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Originally Posted by Elmo C View Post

I use a wireless ethernet plug in.It cost $25 and works great. I connect it to my network wirelessly(push button) then plug it in to the 809.

I took back both the TP-Link and the Onkyo adapter since I had the same results with them on both front and back USB ports. I picked up a power line adapter kit and I'm running that with a hardwire. The DHCP for the Onkyo is crap, even with the new firmware. I finally got it to work by using a static IP.

All this BS just so I could have control from my phone frown.gif
post #5021 of 5812
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Originally Posted by Barn01 View Post


The DHCP for the Onkyo is crap, even with the new firmware. I finally got it to work by using a static IP.

FWIW, when I got my second 809 (with working network), I hooked it up to my home network and my router dished out a DHCP address to it no problem. If other computers on your network can get DHCP addresses, then your 809 should as well.

With that said, I went ahead and assigned a static address (via DHCP) to the receiver so that I could easily connect via the web. Just type the IP Address into a browser and you will see what you can control. It isn't a lot, but configuring Pandora accounts is easier via the web with a real keyboard. (My Favorites > Customer Settings)

I also like the phone app for the most part. There are features that I would change, but I now control my Internet radio almost exclusively with my phone so I don't have to even turn on the screen.

I hope that this helps.
post #5022 of 5812
my friends,

i live outside usa. and original onkyo lan adapter costs 120 US dollars here.and not available.dealer says i ve to wait shipping from usa .1 or 2 months

and i read that TP-LINK TL-WN722N Wireless N150 udb dongle works as good as original onkyo uwf1 adapter.it s available here for 30 us dollars smile.gif

i ve purchased a onkyo cr-n755 networked audio system.

so what s your recommend to me?

do i have to purchase TP-LINK TL-WN722N Wireless N150 or are there better products?

thank u very much.
post #5023 of 5812
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Originally Posted by fulhamx5 View Post

my friends,

i live outside usa. and original onkyo lan adapter costs 120 US dollars here.and not available.dealer says i ve to wait shipping from usa .1 or 2 months

and i read that TP-LINK TL-WN722N Wireless N150 udb dongle works as good as original onkyo uwf1 adapter.it s available here for 30 us dollars smile.gif

i ve purchased a onkyo cr-n755 networked audio system.

so what s your recommend to me?

do i have to purchase TP-LINK TL-WN722N Wireless N150 or are there better products?

thank u very much.

Wired - much more reliable, it's what Onkyo recommend, and cheaper. Else look for a Powerline adaptor - again, more reliable than wireless.
post #5024 of 5812
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Originally Posted by fulhamx5 View Post

my friends,

i live outside usa. and original onkyo lan adapter costs 120 US dollars here.and not available.dealer says i ve to wait shipping from usa .1 or 2 months

and i read that TP-LINK TL-WN722N Wireless N150 udb dongle works as good as original onkyo uwf1 adapter.it s available here for 30 us dollars smile.gif

i ve purchased a onkyo cr-n755 networked audio system.

so what s your recommend to me?

do i have to purchase TP-LINK TL-WN722N Wireless N150 or are there better products?

thank u very much.

Get the TP-Link WN722N. I got it for my 809 and it works great.
post #5025 of 5812
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Originally Posted by toofast68 View Post

Can you share what you have....

Very sorry for the late reply, iogear wifi adaptor GWU627 is what I use. My 809 works great out of the box, connected super easy, runs very cool.
post #5026 of 5812
I have noticed a few times that the receivier just shuttoff...I checked it out and it did not felt particularly hot...anyone experienced this....only had it for about three months now.....I turn it back on and continues to work fine...I one instance, it shootoff back again....
post #5027 of 5812
I need some advice. I'm pretty upset right now.

I've had a Pioneer Elite for the last 5 years or so and loved it. I decided it was time to refresh my home theater and bought the tx-nr809 from Amazon for $426 because it was a great deal and received it on Dec 24th.
I have 4ohm Axiom 5.1 speakers Bi-amped. First I thought the movie / TV sounded better but the Music was much much worse than my Pioneer. All channel stereo on the 809 was just lifeless in comparison. But I watch more TV than listen to music, so I decided to keep it. NOW.....

LAST NIGHT, I decided to watch a regular DVD of Looper on my Xbox. I got all the bangs and booms and some of the voice but a lot of the voice was just squeeks. I went through every setting I know of and could not fix it. Finally I just did a factory reset. It didn't fix the problem and I had to watch the movie in all channel stereo.

I thought it was just the DVD, but when I went back to satellite it was the same way. something obviously broke on my receiver. I checked my Amazon return status and Jan 31 was the last day. 3 DAYS AGO. I'm so mad right now.

Any advise or suggestions are appreciated....
post #5028 of 5812
It looks like, I can only get sound from MONO and Stereo. Any kind of Dolby is out. I've checked multiple sources. So, Do I go through Amazon, and try to get a replacement, or do I go to Onkyo?

Thanks
post #5029 of 5812
Might be the Xbox. Did you try another source?
post #5030 of 5812
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Originally Posted by exp1orer View Post

It looks like, I can only get sound from MONO and Stereo. Any kind of Dolby is out. I've checked multiple sources. So, Do I go through Amazon, and try to get a replacement, or do I go to Onkyo?

Thanks

I think amazons return policy is only 30 days, which you are over. Onkyo should take care of you though.

I also wonder if your problems are not somehow related to your bi-wireing (unnecessary in most peoples opinions) and/or running 4phm speakers. Do you have any other speakers you can test with, preferably 8 ohm ones?
post #5031 of 5812
It had been working fine since I installed and configured it up until last night.

LUCKILY I just got off the phone with Amazon and they agreed to allow me to return it with a refund. I know I wont get another receiver for what I paid for this one but I just need my stuff to work. I don't want to pay Pioneer Elite prices but that is probably what I'll go back to... I might try the Pioneer SC-1222-K 7.2 that has been discussed on here. I'm just not sure about how 600w with D3 amplification will stack up to the 945 watts in this Onkyo and my old Pioneer Elite. One of the reasons I got the 809 is because I didn't want to go down in Power. My speakers loved every watt my old Elite gave them.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this. I'm now back in the market for another receiver.
post #5032 of 5812
Wow! I just found the Pioneer SC-1222-K for $549 shipped at NewEgg and pulled the trigger. Here's hoping....
post #5033 of 5812
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Originally Posted by exp1orer View Post

It had been working fine since I installed and configured it up until last night.

LUCKILY I just got off the phone with Amazon and they agreed to allow me to return it with a refund. I know I wont get another receiver for what I paid for this one but I just need my stuff to work. I don't want to pay Pioneer Elite prices but that is probably what I'll go back to... I might try the Pioneer SC-1222-K 7.2 that has been discussed on here. I'm just not sure about how 600w with D3 amplification will stack up to the 945 watts in this Onkyo and my old Pioneer Elite. One of the reasons I got the 809 is because I didn't want to go down in Power. My speakers loved every watt my old Elite gave them.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this. I'm now back in the market for another receiver.

Check the ht labs tests of each receiver. In particular the all channels driven power tests. The onkyo and pioneer are much closer when driving all channels than the wattage rating suggests.

I'd be willing to sacrifice a little power for reliability, personally.

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post #5034 of 5812
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Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

I have noticed a few times that the receivier just shuttoff...I checked it out and it did not felt particularly hot...anyone experienced this....only had it for about three months now.....I turn it back on and continues to work fine...I one instance, it shootoff back again....

Anyone with a similar problem?
post #5035 of 5812
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Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

I have noticed a few times that the receivier just shuttoff...I checked it out and it did not felt particularly hot...anyone experienced this....only had it for about three months now.....I turn it back on and continues to work fine...I one instance, it shootoff back again....
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Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

Anyone with a similar problem?


I have had no problems with my unit shutting off on it's own. I've only had it for just over a month though. After reading this thread for the past month, I can say that I haven't seen any other posts about this either.
post #5036 of 5812
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Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

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Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

I have noticed a few times that the receivier just shuttoff...I checked it out and it did not felt particularly hot...anyone experienced this....only had it for about three months now.....I turn it back on and continues to work fine...I one instance, it shootoff back again....

Anyone with a similar problem?

Mine has never shut off on its own and I have used it daily for going on a year now. My father also has had an 809 for about the same time length that I have owned mine, and has not had any issues with random shutoffs. I also have not noticed many complaints in this thread regarding this.

Describe what is happening when it shuts off? Content, volume levels etc. Is there adequate ventilation for the 809? Are any of your speaker wires shorting out anywhere? Is there any HDMI control features turned on in any of your source components?
post #5037 of 5812
Anyone able to answer this?


@bmoney I do think that there is one question that you will want to find out, does the onkyo 809 resample all analog inputs. If it does, then you'd still be using the onkyo's DACs no matter what DACs you had in front of it.

I don't know anything about the Onkyo 809, but I think that it's worth looking into and double checking before you purchase an outboard DAC.
post #5038 of 5812
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Originally Posted by 67jason View Post

Mine has never shut off on its own and I have used it daily for going on a year now. My father also has had an 809 for about the same time length that I have owned mine, and has not had any issues with random shutoffs. I also have not noticed many complaints in this thread regarding this.

Describe what is happening when it shuts off? Content, volume levels etc. Is there adequate ventilation for the 809? Are any of your speaker wires shorting out anywhere? Is there any HDMI control features turned on in any of your source components?

The only issue of the ones you mentioned might be the ventilation. However I had provided additional ventilation with an external fan....last few times it has benn behaving fine...I will keep a watch and see how it goes....

BTW, I had disable networking, RHID, and pass thru since it was kind of warm to the touch when in stand by....now it is not warm....
post #5039 of 5812
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Originally Posted by exp1orer View Post

Wow! I just found the Pioneer SC-1222-K for $549 shipped at NewEgg and pulled the trigger. Here's hoping....

How is the SC-1222-K vs. Onkyo 809? Does SC-1222-K have Pre-out? I jump on same deal but to find out Onkyo 809 does NOT have the 12v trigger to control my external AMP (really shame on on Onkyo has pre-out but no trigger).
post #5040 of 5812
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Originally Posted by xftman View Post

How is the SC-1222-K vs. Onkyo 809? Does SC-1222-K have Pre-out? I jump on same deal but to find out Onkyo 809 does NOT have the 12v trigger to control my external AMP (really shame on on Onkyo has pre-out but no trigger).

Sc 1222 does have preouts, but doesn't have 12v trigger either. Sc61 is pretty much the same receiver but it has 12v trigger and the "elite" status, but it costs a bit more
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