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post #5071 of 5804
I've noticed that my hdmi blacks out for 5 - 10 seconds every time something else in the house turns on that draws alot of power. like a refridgerator or furnace. also if someone gets a static shock anywhere in the same room. does anyone know if maybe adding a better surge supressor would help these issues. didnt happen before i added the 809

thanks
post #5072 of 5804
You're talking about a drop in power. A surge protector is to protect from a spike in power. I don't think one would help the problem, but it's always good to add a better one. You can also add a breaker that is a surge protector or better still a whole house protector. They are getting very affordable these days.

Just a crazy idea, but is it possible to add a dedicated line for your A/V gear? It couldn't hurt to add another ground as well.

Keith
post #5073 of 5804
As soon as i can locate a nice discounted price on 809, i think i'm going to grab it.
My 706 HDMI board is going quickly, and hope i can wait that long...

Currently, the cost seems still quite high surprisingly...

anyway, good forum, and thanks for all the discussions...

In General, those who have had this unit for > 6 months, what are your PROs/CONs you have seen now...

thanks
post #5074 of 5804
Please see link for a Like New Onkyo 809!


http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/ele/3646701232.html
post #5075 of 5804
Thank!
Btw, what is main difference in the 818? Seems twice the cost.....
I only have one sub, so I don't know if I would use all capacity..
post #5076 of 5804
it has audyssey xt32...which is supposedly a big upgrade over XT
post #5077 of 5804
Hello to everyone, I feel I know most of you personally as I have spent the last week or so reading 110+ pages of this thread in anticipation of upgrading to the 809 from my current SR806 Onkyo, I will continue reading the rest of this thread but I have some questions I will ask below.
I have recently moved into the GF’s home and have free reign in setting up my Home Theater Gear. I also plan on purchasing a Sharp Quatron 60” 240Hz 3d TV to replace my loved but aging Sharp 46” 120Hz display.

The reason I am replacing the current Sharp TV and AVR is that I want an upgrade TV wise and I figure if I am getting into a 3D/Newer display I might as well have a AVR that is capable even though 3D isn’t all that important to me right now, more of a future proof thing.

I plan on keeping my speakers which are a Premier Acoustic 6A-F system (5.1) (8omz) paired with a Klipsch SW-450 Subwoofer. I know these aren’t great speakers but they sound good to me and at some point in the future I will upgrade these as well but for the time being they suit my needs and were budget friendly. The Sub has been in storage awaiting setting up with a new AVR/TV and I don’t have immediate access to it but have some questions. The Sub plugs into a wall socket for power, so does this mean it’s a powered Sub? Also I keep seeing LPE of LPF setting? I know I have 2 knobs on the back of the Sub, IIRC 1 is for volume the other one if for “Lowpass” (Hz) with a setting range of 40Hz-150Hz…What do I physically set these dials to? Or is the settings for these handled through the AVR when running Auddessy?
The GF currently has SD DirecTv, at my previous apt. I was fortunate enough to have Verizon FIOS HD Cable Service, it is not available here at my new location and probably won’t be as I heard they stopped rolling out to new areas (?), here is where my 1st question comes up:

1.) If I keep the SD cable service from DirecTv, will the 809 AVR up-convert the SD feed to 1080P? If it does do this I feel this will allow me to save a decent chunk of money on upgrading the current SD service to HD service? If the 809 won’t allow this, or does it inconsistently or poorly, I will upgrade to HD service. What is the consensus on this question? Will the 809 up- convert my SD Directv feed to HD appropriately? Will I have to continuously mess with picture settings to get the upscaled SD to look decent in HD? If I do go this route the DirecTv box is currently using component cables to output to the TV. I would assume I can plug these component cables from the cable box, into the component cables input on the back of the AVR, then use the main HDMI output from the AVR to hook up to the back of the TV? Do I need to associate somehow the Cable Box Component Connection with the HDMI out to my TV, or will this do it automatically? The setting names, numerous modes and tweaking has gotten me in a state of paralysis by analysis and thus I want to make sure I have a good grasp of what I am doing, prior to getting all of the gear I plan on. No sense in taking weeks or months to get everything up and running perfectly, to me that runs into the warranty windows if I am unfortunate enough to have a warranty issue. I’d like to be able to have the knowledge to hook up everything, and set everything mostly in one day, thus it is why I have spent the better part of the last week reading this whole thread, jotting down questions and notes when they arise…

2.) It sounds that the way to go about updating the Firmware is to use a USB stick? Would I load the most recent Firmware update onto a blank USB stick, plug the USB into the AVR the moment I take the AVR out of its box for initial set-up feeding it power, but nothing else into it such as HDMI cables and network cable? Do I plug the AVR in prior to putting the USB stick into the rear USB port? What is RIHD and why does It need to be off during the update process? Also I have read no streaming and no HDMI cable plugged in (How then do I see the OSD?), basically the AVR has to be dormant with nothing plugged in while updating? Are the menus, during set up while updating intuitive to telling you what and how to turn things off that need to be off during the update? Or is it all learned/applied while thumbing through the manual? (EDIT) After reading a few more pages of threads it seems that USB Stick might also have problems updating firmware and that running a direct CAT5 cable from my router to the back of the AVR to perform the Firmware update is more successful?

3.) Where is the online manual available, I’d like to D/L and print it out prior to purchasing?

4.) I plan on hooking up a Mid-Model PS3 with HDMI, anything odd or peculiar I should be aware of when hooking up the PS3 with HDMI, or is it fairly straight forward? Do I use the optical out of the PS3 into the AVR in addition to using an HDMI (What input if so for Optical) or will HDMI handle the audio sufficiently?

5.) I plan on reading the Audessy Thread start to finish and am minutely familiar with it using it when setting up the SR806, once familiar with settings, menus and such I dabbled with adjusting things to sound right to my ear, though I am sure, after reading all these posts, that my set up was probably lacking and capable of much more in terms of sound quality, but hell it sounded good to me, anyways does this receiver offer more intuitive and more detailed menus when performing adjustments, running Audessy, etcetera? Not that the SR806 was difficult, but having more info would help me make more informed choices.

In conclusion, the most important thing is how this AVR handles converting theb SD to HD cale feed? I am unsure what the upscaling capabilities of the Sharp TV I plan on purchasing http://www.bjs.com/sharp-aquos-quattron-60-led-hdtv-1080p-240hz-3d-wi-fi.product.217007?dimId=2005810 and thus want to make sure that this AVR can do what I need. I will finish reading the rest of this thread but plan on pulling the trigger soon. I am grabbing the TV tonight and the AVR within the next week.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, thank you to all the frequent posters, I have learned a lot from your informative replies.
post #5078 of 5804
Another question, if I buy the AVR through Amazon, using my Amex, do I get an additional 1 year warranty? How does one go about this? Is it automatic?

Secondly is it better to go with the Onkyo extended warranty or buy a Square Trade extended warranty?

Thanks...
post #5079 of 5804
Just getting somewhat educated on the 809..
Amazon has it for $599 , is this a good deal for this unit?
post #5080 of 5804
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Originally Posted by KTM300EXC View Post

Another question, if I buy the AVR through Amazon, using my Amex, do I get an additional 1 year warranty? How does one go about this? Is it automatic?

Secondly is it better to go with the Onkyo extended warranty or buy a Square Trade extended warranty?

Thanks...

Most Amex cards do have purchase protection - if you call them, they can send you a printout of how their plan works. I bought the st open box warranty because my 809 was a Amazon Warehouse deal. If you are buying a new item you should be covered for 3 years total if you pay with your Amex card.

http://63.148.251.135/redirect_service.cfm?type=own_manuals&file=TX-NR809_En_web.pdf
READ THE FRIENDLY MANUAL. You'll need a small binder if you print 74 pages. The manual is on a CD in the box.

Try an antenna on the tv to get some over the air HD. SD upconverted is still SD. I would not expect the receiver to make the picture look better because it is upscaled. Especially on a larger screen. Sounds like you need to upgrade to HD..
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20070935-1/what-is-upconverting/

Connecting the ps3 - all you need is an HDMI cable:
https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/187/~/connect-ps3-with-hdmi-cable

How to upgrade the firmware - I had success with a hard wired cat 5 connection:
http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/own_manuals/Firmware_Update_for_the_TX709_HT370_07_14_11.pdf

I still have my 806 in the office - upgraded to the 809 when I picked up a new sharp 3d tv. You'll find that Audyssey runs much faster, and the receiver runs quite a bit cooler than the 806.
post #5081 of 5804
Thank Myoda for the replies...

As for the TV I just pulled the plug, couldn't wait any longer ad went and paid cash for the Tv at my local BJ's Warehouse, I'll register it and get a free 90 extra days of warranty, as well as buy the affordable 3 year Sharp Extended Plan...Briefly got it up and running and played around with it a bit...I'm somewhat impressed with the out of the box experience, it only has a tiny bit of clouding, minor compared to others on this site posting their clouding issues. SD looks "Meh" on this set, granted better than the TV it replaced but I have a feeling its time to upgrade to HD service to the house, Ugh.$$$ I was hoping the 809 would magically upscale to HD, silly me...Yet that wont prevent me from buying one, LOL...

Cool to know that just a high speed monoprice HDMI cable will work for the PS3 connection, with all of the inputs and settings of this AVR I was fearing the overall complicated~ness of setting it up, guess it will be fairly straight forward.

I'll be hard wiring the TV and the AVR from my router, just need to finalize what cabinet/tv stand to use, I already have all the speaker wires, sub cable, excreta run under the floors to the locations, just need to move the wireless router to whatever stand I buy then feed the TV and the AVR the CAT5

Thanks....I'm sure Ill be posting again once I get the AVR.
post #5082 of 5804
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Originally Posted by KTM300EXC View Post

Thank Myoda for the replies...

As for the TV I just pulled the plug, couldn't wait any longer ad went and paid cash for the Tv at my local BJ's Warehouse, I'll register it and get a free 90 extra days of warranty, as well as buy the affordable 3 year Sharp Extended Plan...Briefly got it up and running and played around with it a bit...I'm somewhat impressed with the out of the box experience, it only has a tiny bit of clouding, minor compared to others on this site posting their clouding issues. SD looks "Meh" on this set, granted better than the TV it replaced but I have a feeling its time to upgrade to HD service to the house, Ugh.$$$ I was hoping the 809 would magically upscale to HD, silly me...Yet that wont prevent me from buying one, LOL...

Cool to know that just a high speed monoprice HDMI cable will work for the PS3 connection, with all of the inputs and settings of this AVR I was fearing the overall complicated~ness of setting it up, guess it will be fairly straight forward.

I'll be hard wiring the TV and the AVR from my router, just need to finalize what cabinet/tv stand to use, I already have all the speaker wires, sub cable, excreta run under the floors to the locations, just need to move the wireless router to whatever stand I buy then feed the TV and the AVR the CAT5

Thanks....I'm sure Ill be posting again once I get the AVR.
Bummer, you should have gone to a real AV store and bought the 847 instead of the 8470. The picture is so much better.
post #5083 of 5804
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Originally Posted by TAPOUT View Post

Bummer, you should have gone to a real AV store and bought the 847 instead of the 8470. The picture is so much better.

Real A//V stores are few and far between. Sad. The 8470U is exactly the same set as the 847U - the picture quality is identical. You do get 2 pairs of 3D glasses, aquomotion 480, and an extra composite connection on the 0U, and now, a more generous return policy (30 to 90 days, depending on the vendor) at the club stores than Best Buy.
http://www.sharpusa.com/Product/Compare.aspx?models=LC60LE847U,LC60C8470U
post #5084 of 5804
Tapout, "Real" AV stores are few and far between up here in the Worcester Mass. area, matter of fact there is none that I know of, especially none that carry a huge assortment of TV's and AVR's to be able to look at. As far as I can tell, and echoing what Myoda stated, the 847OU pleases me and doing the little research that I have it seems the only difference between 847(xx) sets is connections and where it is sold, the warehouses/BB have there own slightly different models to discourage price matching. Anyways......


Now to keep reading this 809 thread in anticipation of buying it.
post #5085 of 5804
I don't know what it is, but I have installed about a dozen of each, and the 847 always seems to look better. Regardless, the 809 will be a great addition.
post #5086 of 5804
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Originally Posted by KTM300EXC View Post

Another question, if I buy the AVR through Amazon, using my Amex, do I get an additional 1 year warranty? How does one go about this? Is it automatic?

Secondly is it better to go with the Onkyo extended warranty or buy a Square Trade extended warranty?

Thanks...

My understanding is that the Square Trade extended warranty will only pay for repairs to a certain amount and then they simply refund your pro-rated purchase price. The Onkyo extended warranty is a repair or replace only option.

So, if you pay close to full price for your amp, the Square Trade will give you some money close to what you need to get another amp if it fails relatively soon after your purchase. If you get a great deal on your amp and you want to make sure your amp is either fixed or replaced no matter what the problem, then the Onkyo is probably the better option for you.

I got a great price, so I went Onkyo.

Base warranty = 2 years
Onkyo extended warranty = 2 years
Amex purchase = 1 year
TOTAL = 5 years
post #5087 of 5804
Just ordered the 809 tonight on Amazon for below $600, earlier in the day it had jumped to a little over $700, when I saw the reduced price this evening, lower than what had been watching the price do all week, I pulled the Debit Card out and made the purchase.

I decided that I will go with the Onkyo Extended Warranty, thanks for the explanation.

Now to decide if I want to return the 2 day old Sharp 847OU TV, the clouding, though minor to others on this board with the set, is distracting.....

Ugh....When will all this "Upgraditis" end....
post #5088 of 5804
Quote:
Originally Posted by KTM300EXC View Post

Just ordered the 809 tonight on Amazon for below $600, earlier in the day it had jumped to a little over $700, when I saw the reduced price this evening, lower than what had been watching the price do all week, I pulled the Debit Card out and made the purchase.

I decided that I will go with the Onkyo Extended Warranty, thanks for the explanation.

Now to decide if I want to return the 2 day old Sharp 847OU TV, the clouding, though minor to others on this board with the set, is distracting.....

Ugh....When will all this "Upgraditis" end....

Do the rest of us a favor and take the TV back. If manufacturers start to think they can successfully ship something with defects, they will start to expect all of us to "live with them."
post #5089 of 5804
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Originally Posted by gerrygraff View Post

Do the rest of us a favor and take the TV back. If manufacturers start to think they can successfully ship something with defects, they will start to expect all of us to "live with them."

I hear you, and I may very well do just that...However when I compare it to the clouding issues others are having my clouding pales by comparrison, just one litle corner in the bottom left of the screen only visible in super dark screens or black menus....But I do agree, even though I got this set for a substantial discount comapred to when it 1st came out, I always come back to the mind set that I shouldnt have to live with it. The 46" 5+ year old Sharp didn't exhibit this out of the box and only in the last few months has it developed a shadow emminating from the top right corner of the screen extending for about an inch or so towards the center of the screen, this is only seen on bright white sources.....Anyways my budget doesn't allow for "ELITE" models or Kuro spec items, but hell $1700 is a lot of money for me, especially when I am not happy.

I need to see if I can dig up the post in this thread were it details exactly what Sharp wants when setting up a warranty claim. I did purchase an extended 3 year warranty from Sharp, hopefully it wont be too much of a haslle.

Anyone have the link to what I need to do to get a better set?

EDIT....Thought I was posting in the 847OU thread I had opened, sorry.
post #5090 of 5804
My. Setup: onkyo 809, oppo 103, Panasonic gt50

I want to be able to use headphones and the speakers at the same time. My wife is hard of hearing and needs headphones, but I want to be able to hear too! The onkyo blanks the speakers with headphones plugged in. I've tried Bluetooth headphones with the tv but they blank the speakers too. Can you help?
post #5091 of 5804
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Originally Posted by owenh10 View Post

My. Setup: onkyo 809, oppo 103, Panasonic gt50

I want to be able to use headphones and the speakers at the same time. My wife is hard of hearing and needs headphones, but I want to be able to hear too! The onkyo blanks the speakers with headphones plugged in. I've tried Bluetooth headphones with the tv but they blank the speakers too. Can you help?

There could be an audio out on the TV. If you connect to that output you should be OK. Not knowing what your TV is, I am just guessing.

Good luck with your endeavor,

Keith
post #5092 of 5804
Quote:
Originally Posted by owenh10 View Post

My. Setup: onkyo 809, oppo 103, Panasonic gt50

I want to be able to use headphones and the speakers at the same time. My wife is hard of hearing and needs headphones, but I want to be able to hear too! The onkyo blanks the speakers with headphones plugged in. I've tried Bluetooth headphones with the tv but they blank the speakers too. Can you help?

How about connecting one of the specialized headphone amplifiers to the pre-amp outputs of the 809?
post #5093 of 5804
Thanks, 94 van guy & gerrygraff for the responses. The pre amp outs work great. Thanks for the help. I built an O2 kit for funsies a year back and now I can put it to use.

-Owen
post #5094 of 5804
I'm having a strange issue setting up my 809 using surround modes while playing music through my computer. No matter what surround mode I choose (except all channel stereo) I get nothing out of my surround speakers. It's quite odd even with my height surround speakers on. I've not had this issue with my previous receivers and I can't seem to find a setting to fix this...
post #5095 of 5804
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Originally Posted by Robert Clark View Post

I'm having a strange issue setting up my 809 using surround modes while playing music through my computer. No matter what surround mode I choose (except all channel stereo) I get nothing out of my surround speakers. It's quite odd even with my height surround speakers on. I've not had this issue with my previous receivers and I can't seem to find a setting to fix this...

I had a similar problem. I'm using hdmi to connect my computer to the receiver. What I determined to be happening was that my computer was set to output multi-channel audio. So the processing was being done by the computer for the mix. I changed the output from my computer to stereo and now the receiver is doing all the processing and I can select different sound modes on the receiver that where previously not available.
post #5096 of 5804
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Clark View Post

I'm having a strange issue setting up my 809 using surround modes while playing music through my computer. No matter what surround mode I choose (except all channel stereo) I get nothing out of my surround speakers. It's quite odd even with my height surround speakers on. I've not had this issue with my previous receivers and I can't seem to find a setting to fix this...

Are you outputting audio over HDMI?

If yes, what is your video/audio card (e.g. NVIDIA GeForce GT 430)?

What operating system are you using (e.g. Windows, Mac, Linux)?

Do you have the option of audio over digital out from your computer (i.e. S/PDIF)? This can help you troubleshoot the issue.
post #5097 of 5804
The Onkyo TX-NR809 is priced at $517.41 with free shipping on Amazon.com today (3/11/2013). Perhaps this is not as low as the late December 2012 prices, but it is still a pretty decent deal!
David
post #5098 of 5804
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Originally Posted by geezman View Post

I had a similar problem. I'm using hdmi to connect my computer to the receiver. What I determined to be happening was that my computer was set to output multi-channel audio. So the processing was being done by the computer for the mix. I changed the output from my computer to stereo and now the receiver is doing all the processing and I can select different sound modes on the receiver that where previously not available.

Quote:
Originally Posted by brian hammer View Post

Are you outputting audio over HDMI?

If yes, what is your video/audio card (e.g. NVIDIA GeForce GT 430)?

What operating system are you using (e.g. Windows, Mac, Linux)?

Do you have the option of audio over digital out from your computer (i.e. S/PDIF)? This can help you troubleshoot the issue.

Thanks guys! Multichannel output from the computer was the problem. smile.gif
post #5099 of 5804
While listening to music tonight (loud), my 809 flickered a few times (TV was on), then turned off. I turned it back on, restarted the music and within a few minutes I heard a pop, buzz, then saw flames inside the receiver which shot out for a few seconds. When I unplugged it I got a bit of a zap. Any ideas? I had a spare 505 which I hooked up to the same speakers/power source without issue as I wait for the service plan to refund me. Speakers are Definitive Mythos Eights (Front/Center) and SR-8040s (rear) with a polk 505 sub. mad.gif
post #5100 of 5804
and before anyone asks, it has 1.5 ft of clearance above it with an in-wall fan to ventilate the closet it is in...so heat wasn't the issue.
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