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post #5461 of 5810
Yeah, but it is easy to change the device on the fly as needed. In other words, when I feel like working on music, I open the appropriate software, which uses ASIO drivers and can access the digital output of the 0404 audio interface.
Otherwise, for everything else, working, watching stuff, listening to music, that would use standard Windows drivers and go through Windows mixer and thus out the HDMI.
So in Windows it is just a matter of switching audio devices real quick, but changing the input in the NR809 is cumbersome and slow, so it is not something I would be willing to do a few times a day.
So I was hoping that it could be set to default to HDMI and switch to the digital input when something is actually received as that wouldn't normally happen until I open the applicable software and switch audio devices in Windows. It doesn't seem like this is possible, but was hoping it is and that someone knows about it.
post #5462 of 5810
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Originally Posted by Deadmaster200 View Post

Yeah, but it is easy to change the device on the fly as needed. In other words, when I feel like working on music, I open the appropriate software, which uses ASIO drivers and can access the digital output of the 0404 audio interface.
Otherwise, for everything else, working, watching stuff, listening to music, that would use standard Windows drivers and go through Windows mixer and thus out the HDMI.
So in Windows it is just a matter of switching audio devices real quick, but changing the input in the NR809 is cumbersome and slow, so it is not something I would be willing to do a few times a day.
So I was hoping that it could be set to default to HDMI and switch to the digital input when something is actually received as that wouldn't normally happen until I open the applicable software and switch audio devices in Windows. It doesn't seem like this is possible, but was hoping it is and that someone knows about it.

I would just assign an unused Source input (Phono?) to the Optical input you are using for your PC, and label it PC2. Then just select Phono when using 0404, and PC (HDMI5) for all your other Windows stuff.

Don't forget to make sure any Video is Unassigned to the Phono.
post #5463 of 5810
Had audio but no video through any hdmi input. Had to factory reset. That worked.

Is this a precursor for board failure? I've had the unit trouble free since January. Bnib
post #5464 of 5810
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

Had audio but no video through any hdmi input. Had to factory reset. That worked.

Is this a precursor for board failure? I've had the unit trouble free since January. Bnib

could be just a firmware glitch.

Are you up to date will all firmware updates?
post #5465 of 5810
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Originally Posted by NODES View Post

could be just a firmware glitch.

Are you up to date will all firmware updates?

I was. Has a new one come out since January?
post #5466 of 5810
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

I was. Has a new one come out since January?

July 13, 2013 was the latest f/w - only available via USB:
http://us.onkyo.com/Downloads/firmware.php

We are pleased to offer this firmware update for the best possible performance of your AV Receiver.
The 06/13/2013 update addresses the following: AVAILABLE ONLY VIA USB
1. Corrects the problem that the OSD menu does not appear when certain source components connected via
HDMI are in standby mode
post #5467 of 5810
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

I was. Has a new one come out since January?

I believe there was another between Jan and Jul
post #5468 of 5810
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Originally Posted by NODES View Post

I believe there was another between Jan and Jul

I thought I posted the answer earlier...oh well.
post #5469 of 5810
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How is your laptop connected to the network? Ethernet or WiFi?

WiFi.
post #5470 of 5810
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

I thought I posted the answer earlier...oh well.


You did, but there was one before that had to be installed before the June one could be installed?
post #5471 of 5810
hi how much power am i getting if i bi-amp my front 2 speakers i own a pair of kef q700s
post #5472 of 5810
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hi how much power am i getting if i bi-amp my front 2 speakers i own a pair of kef q700s

135 watts per channel/2 channels driven....incidently enough this is the exact same amount if you weren't bi-amping.
post #5473 of 5810
so if i have it in pure audio mode and have the speakers bi-amped its 135wats to my 4 drivers? or just 135 per tower?
post #5474 of 5810
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Originally Posted by NODES View Post

You did, but there was one before that had to be installed before the June one could be installed?

New firmware includes past updates:

If you have already performed the firmware update released on 2012/07/03 or 2012/03/16 to your
receiver, please update to this new version via USB. Above OSD problem will be corrected.
If have not updated the firmware released in 2012/07/03 or 2012/03/16 to your receiver, prior updates
will be automatically done with this latest update.
Should you encounter any difficulties when performing this update, please
contact us.
Firmware_Update_for_the_TXNR709_NR809_HT370_061313.pdf 250k .pdf file
post #5475 of 5810
My 809 has been in the shop for 17 days and counting waiting for a backordered HDMI board from Onkyo. How long have others had to wait?
post #5476 of 5810
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Originally Posted by jvolkman View Post

My 809 has been in the shop for 17 days and counting waiting for a backordered HDMI board from Onkyo. How long have others had to wait?
I have been in the same boat for about the same amount of time. Guess these failures are so rare they ran out of the part (a sarcastic reference to posts earlier in this thread)! The service center understandably can provide no ETA because Onkyo will provide no ETA...
post #5477 of 5810
I just purchased the 2-year extended warranty. I hope I don't ever need it.

I "ordered" it about 7 weeks ago and only today did I finally get an email acknowledgement. I hope this is not indicative of how slowly they handle service requests!

Gregg
post #5478 of 5810
What good is your extended warranty if they are out of parts?
post #5479 of 5810
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Originally Posted by j.m. View Post

I have been in the same boat for about the same amount of time. Guess these failures are so rare they ran out of the part (a sarcastic reference to posts earlier in this thread)! The service center understandably can provide no ETA because Onkyo will provide no ETA...

I was in the same boat as you, about 3 weeks since I dropped the receiver off. Shop told me they were waiting on onkyo to ship the board to them. Was just about to call them for an update when yesterday doorbell rang and wife said did you order another receiver???? Looked outside and they shipped me a new nr828. I assume that is what they will do for you as well. Any idea if the 828 is good? I saw complaining on review sites that 828 isn't as good as the 818 which he got for replacement but I had the 809 so I dont know if it is a downgrade or not.
post #5480 of 5810
It is upgrade in some areas, but not in others. Audyssey XT drops to MutlEQ being the worst.

Go through the specs, and check what is important for you.

818 has the Audyssey Xt32, which is a BIG plus over 809

Assuming Room EQ is important to you.
post #5481 of 5810
Yes the Audyssey is the big thing that gets downgraded.
post #5482 of 5810
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Originally Posted by dr_gallup View Post

What good is your extended warranty if they are out of parts?


You may get a newer receiver like some are reporting.
post #5483 of 5810
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

It is upgrade in some areas, but not in others. Audyssey XT drops to MutlEQ being the worst.

Go through the specs, and check what is important for you.

818 has the Audyssey Xt32, which is a BIG plus over 809

Assuming Room EQ is important to you.

I did the comparison of 828 and 818 from the Onkyo site. Looks like the 828 has gone on a diet compared to the 818. Onkyo specs show the 828 at 33 pounds vs 40 pounds for the 818. Not sure how this translates to sound quality though. The specs also show the 828 with "push pull" amplification and "independent power supply", while the 818 does not show to have that. Also, the specs show the 818 NOT having DNLA streaming which I find hard to believe since the 809 has that.

Regarding the 809, mine sounds absolutely fantastic. The only thing I would wish for would be built in wi-fi.
post #5484 of 5810
809 owner here, trying to figure something out. So I'm considering buying the Oppo 105 and I guess I need confirmation on what the Onkyo does with incoming audio. If I send analogs from the 105 to the 809 into the BD/DVD multichannel analogs, will there be any Analog to Digital to Analog conversions being done by the 809? Or will it *only* be sending the audio out directly as it's received from the 105?
post #5485 of 5810
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Originally Posted by mva5580 View Post

809 owner here, trying to figure something out. So I'm considering buying the Oppo 105 and I guess I need confirmation on what the Onkyo does with incoming audio. If I send analogs from the 105 to the 809 into the BD/DVD multichannel analogs, will there be any Analog to Digital to Analog conversions being done by the 809? Or will it *only* be sending the audio out directly as it's received from the 105?

Maybe if you set the 809 to the "Pure Audio" listening mode there would be no processing? Not sure.

But I am curious why you wouldn't just connect via HDMI? I have my Oppo BDP-83 connected to my 809 via HDMI and it sounds great, plus I don't need to buy and route all those interconnects. Also, my SACDs, DVD-Audio discs, and Blu-ray movies sound great through HDMI.
post #5486 of 5810
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Originally Posted by mva5580 View Post

809 owner here, trying to figure something out. So I'm considering buying the Oppo 105 and I guess I need confirmation on what the Onkyo does with incoming audio. If I send analogs from the 105 to the 809 into the BD/DVD multichannel analogs, will there be any Analog to Digital to Analog conversions being done by the 809? Or will it *only* be sending the audio out directly as it's received from the 105?
I think you are matching a hi end BR player with a mid range AVR. You should look at better matching, by getting the 103 Oppo, or going for something like a 3009/5009 Onkyo with the 105.

If you value Audyssey, and I am a big fan, then outputting from the Oppo in analogue will be a waste. To use Audyssey, all processing must be done in the digital domain. So your Analogue inputs would be converted.
post #5487 of 5810
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

I think you are matching a hi end BR player with a mid range AVR. You should look at better matching, by getting the 103 Oppo, or going for something like a 3009/5009 Onkyo with the 105.

If you value Audyssey, and I am a big fan, then outputting from the Oppo in analogue will be a waste. To use Audyssey, all processing must be done in the digital domain. So your Analogue inputs would be converted.

With respect, I completely disagree with this. If connecting via bitstream HDMI, then there is no "matching" issue, and one can certainly use an Oppo 105 with the 809, although it would make more sense in that scenario to use the Oppo 103. The 809 will receive the same bitstream whether it comes from a 105 or a 103.
post #5488 of 5810
I appreciate the responses/input, but really I'm just looking for a definitive answer to my question.

If I use the "Direct" or "Pure Audio" setting on the Onkyo, is *all* Onkyo processing bypassed and the processing that's done on the Oppo will be what actually comes out of my speakers? Because if the answer is Yes, then I'd say the 105 is worth it. If the answer is No, then I'm just going to move on from it and live with what I have. I'm very interested in the DAC quality of the 105 for music playback specifically.

Thanks,
post #5489 of 5810
Having wondered the exact same question. Even onkyo reps had no clue. The manual says direct turns off "most" processing. I have an external DAC and didn't want the DAC doing the conversion only to go into the onkyo be reconverted. So I bought a two channel preamp. Made a HUGE difference

With a quality digital player/DAC like the 105 you would be foolish to send it to the onkyo
post #5490 of 5810
So how could I make all this "work" together properly? Say I had:

- the Onkyo 809
- the oppo 105 for blu ray/music
- a carver m1.5t amp that my front l/r's go in to
- an htpc for TV/gaming

Is it POSSIBLE for me to hook up these components and get the best out of them? Is there anything I should add/substitute in it?
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