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post #181 of 229
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Glad I found this thread looks awesome!!! Lots of good ideas here when I redo my room in a couple years!

Glad to hear, I know I got many of my inspirations from this forum. I would have been ignorant without AVS


As for updates, I spent some time this weekend getting the bar cabinets fully assembled (doors, trim, drawer/cabinet pulls, shelves, etc). I still have some adjustments to make on the doors, but we are really happy with the results. The wood really warms up the space vs the modern floors and countertop area.

Some pics from my phone:





post #182 of 229
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Will take some better pics this week once I get everything cleaned up. Also, my wife bought some curtains and we ordered the curtain rods from Crate And Barrel and they should be here by Wednesday. We also finally found some pendant lights for the bar we really liked and hope to get them by the Super Bowl.

I also ordered a Logitech Harmony 1100 (has the 3.5" color touch display) and it will be here this week. I had an older Harmony that I was really happy with so decided to upgrade.

Also hooked up a DirecTV HD receiver in the basement and it looks great on the big screen. Even checked out some ESPN 3D and it was a blast.

Lots of things to do this week to get ready for the big Super Bowl bash.

And since this is AVS, how about a picture of some AV

post #183 of 229
Hey, are you trying to get it done in time for a "big game" party!!!

Killer

Edit, suppose I should fully read your last post!

How many you planning to have over?
post #184 of 229
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Hey, are you trying to get it done in time for a "big game" party!!!

Killer

Edit, suppose I should fully read your last post!

How many you planning to have over?

The number of people keeps growing I am guessing 50 or so.

The Harmony 1100 arrived late today and I have spent the better part of the evening getting it programmed. I have used Harmony remotes for years but the 1100 is a blast. I like the touch screen and it took a little time to get everything tweaked, but it is working like a charm. Watched some Espn in 3D tonight as well on the Acer and it is amazing for $1499. Kraine (reviewer) even bought one for his personal use after comparing it to the Panasonic 7K, JVC 45, BenQ W7000, Sony HW30etc. Projectors that cost considerably more. Oh, and the 2D is very good too. Anyone looking for a solid home theater projector in the sub $2K range that wants 3D, keep this one on your short list

Oh, and I also installed two door handles tonight.. I also received two of my Lutron Spacer IR dimmers.. So I need to get those installed and my Harmony 1100 programmed appropriately.

A pic from the phone of the remote:

post #185 of 229
Looking more than AWESOME!!!!!

Sending you a PM with regards to your screen, I've been out of work for 1 week, and staying home this week as well, so my progress has been affected, and or Hanes'a'matized for slow progress ( LOL !!!! )

The way you have your room looks great, you can watch the projector with both types of enjoyment with regular tv / sports and even movies, with the added element of the fireplace, very cool!

I agree with your post above exactly, with inspirations from this forum, especially the main theater designers / builders that show their invaluable experience and willingness to offer their help in this forum is more than words can ever express!
post #186 of 229
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I've been out of work for 1 week, and staying home this week as well, so my progress has been affected, and or Hanes'a'matized for slow progress ( LOL !!!! )

Don't temp the fates, Chad! I'm cutting you a bit more slack until you finish your transition to a gluten free alcohol diet!

And as for you and all this persistent progress, Ack ...



You're moving so fast I'm getting motion sickness just reading your thread!
post #187 of 229
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This is for you Hanes:

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My son was adamant last night that we have a "family movie night in the theater". He did his chores so we watched "Despicable Me". It was a blast, and I don't think I have ever heard my 4 year old daughter laugh so hard. Really fun movie and incredible picture and sound. Watching the smiles and hearing the laughter really make the hard work worth it.

The Deftech speakers are the real deal. Very happy with the audio and having a vertical center speaker with the tweeter near ear level has made a huge difference vs my old horizontal center channel that was always a little lacking. The AT screen was the right call for me, I LOVE having the sound coming right at me from behind the screen and not having to worry about the kids and the speakers. That said, I am not loving the bass response. The A2-300 is just not cutting it in such a large room and the PA-150 is actually hanging in there okay, but not great. I am hoping that when we add the curtains and more pillows it will help with the acoustics, and I still need to tweak Audyssey, but I am really thinking my next project will be two DIY subwoofers that have output comparable to something in the HSU VTF-15H class, or Epik Empire class. It is a big room.
post #189 of 229
Nice work Ack, everything looks amazing.

Nice feeling to be nearly complete.
post #190 of 229
where did you get that modern looking tile in the bar / bath? looks great, a quick look at the big box stores and i don't see anything similar...
post #191 of 229
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where did you get that modern looking tile in the bar / bath? looks great, a quick look at the big box stores and i don't see anything similar...

It is an Italian tile that I bought at a specialty tile store. I looked at the big box stores, but the specialty stores are so much better in terms of selection and quality. For the local folks in Minneapolis area who may read this thread the store is Ceramic Tile Works.

For price info, I spent between $9-10 per tile, but keep in mind they are 24x24" tiles. Really did not add on much cost when you are talking about installing only 10-14 tiles or so.
post #192 of 229
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My son was adamant last night that we have a "family movie night in the theater". He did his chores so we watched "Despicable Me". It was a blast, and I don't think I have ever heard my 4 year old daughter laugh so hard. Really fun movie and incredible picture and sound. Watching the smiles and hearing the laughter really make the hard work worth it.

The Deftech speakers are the real deal. Very happy with the audio and having a vertical center speaker with the tweeter near ear level has made a huge difference vs my old horizontal center channel that was always a little lacking. The AT screen was the right call for me, I LOVE having the sound coming right at me from behind the screen and not having to worry about the kids and the speakers. That said, I am not loving the bass response. The A2-300 is just not cutting it in such a large room and the PA-150 is actually hanging in there okay, but not great. I am hoping that when we add the curtains and more pillows it will help with the acoustics, and I still need to tweak Audyssey, but I am really thinking my next project will be two DIY subwoofers that have output comparable to something in the HSU VTF-15H class, or Epik Empire class. It is a big room.

Here is the main reason why you did all that hard work, the same story that's posted with-in most of AVS, just seeing their kids, with their expressions of having so much fun, and for future reason to help keep them around home as much as possible ( during the good years LOL ) you will look back and thank yourself for doing all that hard work, because memories are priceless!!!

WOW, even Hanes came out of his cave and stopped buy!!!!

Speaking of the subs, have you made a look at your AV receiver's owners page, there are many things happening to people trying to set-up their speakers with the auto set-up, takes many times, maybe even a FW upgrade some have done, but with the subs you have there, they looked large enough to make plenty of noise, I'd even get on the phone with the company of the subs and double check with your settings on the subs / your co-ax digital wires, etc, cause when I added a powered sub to my set-up, I turned off my klipsch'es and just used the 12" powered sub made my room go vroom ( room is 13' wide x 27' deep-upstairs ), by it's self, so do some searching, I think those subs ( I believe two of them? ) should be more than enough, if set-up correctly, just something to try.
post #193 of 229
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A few updates. We had just under 30 people over for the Super Bowl and it was a blast. The open concept basement really paid off. Most of the younger kids played in the playroom, the older kids and the guys all hung out in the main area and watched the game on the 125" screen. The ladies mostly stayed upstairs hanging out together in main level watching the game on the plasma. I was able to get a lot of the work done, but we had a heck of a time finding some furniture (upholstered chair, uphosltered bench, bar stools) locally. Must have went to about 5 stores and we are now looking online since my wife and I know what we want but just cannot seem to find it locally.

One of the pendant lights also slipped out of my grasp and did not fare so well (who would have thought that glass and tile don't mix from about 3' up). Have another one on order and should be up by the weekend.

I still have to finish caulking, puttying, and painting some of the trim in the bathroom, and I also need to finish some minor grout and tile work in the shower (waiting for the weather to warm up before I fire up the tile saw, just not in a rush to try and cut tile in sub 20 degree weather).

So we have some things to do still, but we are enjoying the space all the time. Have already watched about 10 movies, and we find ourselves watching most of our TV shows in the basement. The fireplace was worth every penny. It really warms up the whole basement and we are so glad we budgeted for it.

Here are some recent pics. My wife proposed the feaux animal head for the fireplace, and I really dig it











post #194 of 229
Very impressive - you did an amazing job. Love how the front stage is nicely tucked behind the screen. I'm sure your party guests were blown away by the sound and picture and are now thinking of their own projects to do. You know, since you did yours so quickly.....how hard can it be? Again, great job
post #195 of 229
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Very impressive - you did an amazing job. Love how the front stage is nicely tucked behind the screen. I'm sure your party guests were blown away by the sound and picture and are now thinking of their own projects to do. You know, since you did yours so quickly.....how hard can it be? Again, great job

Yeah, I have already been volunteered by my friends to host the Super Bowl next year One of my friends actually has a dedicated theater room (it came with the house) and it is wired for a projector. He decided to buy a large (60" Sony LED) TV, and he bought Bose speakers. I have never said anything because he seemed so proud of his setup, but when he saw my projector and heard the speakers he was blown away. He must have said "I did not know a projector could put out a picture like this" several times and now he is talking projectors with me A single chip 1080p DLP with high lumens can look really impressive for sports, especially one with ultra level contrast.

I really love the speakers, but I am thinking about upgrading the subwoofers this year at some point. I am really considering two Epik Empire subs. I spoke with the owner of the company (Chad) and was really impressed with him. Plus I have heard the Empire in person and really liked what it could do.

I am also really liking the Harmony 1100. I have been tweaking it and have it almost exactly where I want it. I installed some of the dimmers, but have two Lutron IR Spacer dimmers to install and then program on the Harmony. Should have time this week, but a nasty eye, ear, nose infection has invaded my family and all of us have been fighting this thing for about a week, so I find myself wanting to just veg at night vs working

Thanks for the kind words Scout's Staff.
post #196 of 229
What did you find out about your settings in your receiver for your subs?

Are you really sure that they were set-up correctly? I see your looking to try some other subs? If you go too much, will you get any vibration or rattling thorugh-out?

I've read that when using the auto speaker calibration set-up, not all settings are set-up correctly, I reall think your settings are not right, as the subs you have should really make that room make some noise, I turned off my klipch towers, and had to fool around with my settings for my one sub to be just right, and just one sub buy itself makes my room thats 13x27 make some serious noise... Just wondering...
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What did you find out about your settings in your receiver for your subs?

Are you really sure that they were set-up correctly? I see your looking to try some other subs? If you go too much, will you get any vibration or rattling thorugh-out?

I have the PA-150 actually sounding pretty good to me now and it will do for now until I save some money for a new sub. I spent some time with both subs and the conclusion that I have come to is that my room is just too big. When you factor in the playroom, family/entertainment room, bar area, etc (it is all open concept) and the stairs, we are talking close to 6000 cubic square feet. In my older media room the A2-300 was sitting in a room about 1/3 the size and it sounded great, but it is just getting swallowed up by the room now. I may keep the PA-150 but it is clear I need something bigger and badder to get the mid bass punch I used to get from the A2-300 in a much smaller room.

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I've read that when using the auto speaker calibration set-up, not all settings are set-up correctly, I reall think your settings are not right, as the subs you have should really make that room make some noise, I turned off my klipch towers, and had to fool around with my settings for my one sub to be just right, and just one sub buy itself makes my room thats 13x27 make some serious noise... Just wondering...

Oh yeah, Audyssey always has to be tweaked after running, but in this case, I even tried bypassing Audyssey with some manual test tones and an SPL meter and it is not doing what I want. It is a very capable sub for a smaller room, my room is just too big. If I had four A2-300's, I would probably be happy, but I doubt my wife would be.

I am going to put it on Cragslist, but if anyone local from Minnesota wants it, I would sell it for $280. It looks great and has not even been used for the past 18 months. I don't want to ship it due to the size and cost so only local offers.
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Thanks for the kind words Scout's Staff.

Anytime - you've earned it. Hope you all feel better soon.

I hear ya on your subwoofer issue. I just ordered a second Paradigm Seismic 110 to help balance out my room, which is approx 5K cubic feet with a 6' wide opening to another 5K cu. ft. area. I feel like I am over driving the one I have now. I bought the first one for WAF (small sealed & powerful) - she suggested I buy a 2nd one. She is a keeper.....
post #199 of 229
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Anytime - you've earned it. Hope you all feel better soon.

I hear ya on your subwoofer issue. I just ordered a second Paradigm Seismic 110 to help balance out my room, which is approx 5K cubic feet with a 6' wide opening to another 5K cu. ft. area. I feel like I am over driving the one I have now. I bought the first one for WAF (small sealed & powerful) - she suggested I buy a 2nd one. She is a keeper.....

I'll say, definitely a keeper.. My wife has been supportive of my home theater obsession, but I don't think she will get why I need to sell my current subs to get two new ones

I will definitely be interested in hearing your impressions of the second subwoofer. Right now I am thinking dual Epik Empires. But we will see.
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The Epik Empires look like a very good subwoofer. Interesting that you can stack them.
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The Epik Empires look like a very good subwoofer. Interesting that you can stack them.

You can stack them, but I should have been more clear. One Empire in the front of the room, one in the back. It is much cheaper to buy two in a pair and ship them vs buying them separately. Epik has a nice discount when you buy two.
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Anytime - you've earned it. Hope you all feel better soon.

I hear ya on your subwoofer issue. I just ordered a second Paradigm Seismic 110 to help balance out my room, which is approx 5K cubic feet with a 6' wide opening to another 5K cu. ft. area. I feel like I am over driving the one I have now. I bought the first one for WAF (small sealed & powerful) - she suggested I buy a 2nd one. She is a keeper.....

So I had never really heard of the Paradigm Seismic 110 before and I just glanced at the specs and read some reviews. Very impressive for such a small subwoofer. I cannot believe you can get such low extension (sub 20hz) at such high decibel range. Very interesting..

I am guessing it costs money to get such performance in such a small package?
post #203 of 229
I've been very happy with the Seismic 110 for music and movies. It was recommended to me by a boutique AV dealer in my area that I have been very happy with. For its size, I was shocked with the output. I think it retails the same as the Epiks ($1,500) but isn't discounted much.
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I've been very happy with the Seismic 110 for music and movies. It was recommended to me by a boutique AV dealer in my area that I have been very happy with. For its size, I was shocked with the output. I think it retails the same as the Epiks ($1,500) but isn't discounted much.

Well I sold the A2-300 and ordered an HSU VTF-15H. I really debated between the Epik Empire, Rythmik FV15, SVS offerings, etc, but the HSU seemed to give me everything I was looking for.
post #205 of 229
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Houston, we have bass

The HSU VTF-15H arrived last Friday and after some initial calibrations using Audyssy MultEQ, I am pretty dang happy.

The HSU is a beast, but it can also play very tight and accurate. It is amazing how much difference this sub has made in my space for bass. To quote my beautiful wife:
"I think the couch just moved!"

Really feeling the lower frequency bass, but at the same time, the HSU is not as boomy sounding as the A2-300 or the PA-150. I have integrated the PA-150 into the mix and it seems to compliment the HSU in the upper ranges well. Not sure if I will keep it or not, but I do feel the HSU has met my expectations better than the other two subwoofers combined. Very happy and HSU is top notch and I highly recommend them.

These are just iPhone pics but you can see how the HSU stacks up against the PA-150 as well as my 1.5 year old girl





post #206 of 229
Ah, that's awesome! What's the 'ol saying, there's no replacement for displacement! You must be thrilled with how your basement turned out......it's AWESOME!
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Ah, that's awesome! What's the 'ol saying, there's no replacement for displacement! You must be thrilled with how your basement turned out......it's AWESOME!

Thank you, we are loving it. We rarely watch TV upstairs anymore and even the kids ask to watch movies or TV during the day on the big screen

Still some little things to do in the basement and we have family coming out at the end of March, and I promised my wife I will get all the little odds and ends done. Also have to finish decorating (need some bar stools, a char, and I want to get a air hockey table). I also need to install all the Lutron Spacer IR light dimmers, but the projector keeps distracting me...

It will get done

Are you still thinking about doing the projector thing?
post #208 of 229
Yes, I definately want to do a projector. I am inspired with your build do to a project with AT screen. I was a little lazy over the winter spending my time.........well.........let me see......doing nothing I will likely wait now until this coming fall or next winter.

However, if I actually saw a movie on a projector in someone else's basement I am sure that would inspire me even more and become my new #1 priority
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Yes, I definately want to do a projector. I am inspired with your build do to a project with AT screen. I was a little lazy over the winter spending my time.........well.........let me see......doing nothing I will likely wait now until this coming fall or next winter.

However, if I actually saw a movie on a projector in someone else's basement I am sure that would inspire be even more and become my new #1 priority

Come on over

I have a huge stack of movies that I am finally getting to...
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Houston, we have bass

The HSU VTF-15H arrived last Friday and after some initial calibrations using Audyssy MultEQ, I am pretty dang happy.

The HSU is a beast, but it can also play very tight and accurate. It is amazing how much difference this sub has made in my space for bass. To quote my beautiful wife:
"I think the couch just moved!"


Holy Subwoofer! Beautiful sub there ack!

Just look at the difference between them, wow, hopefully your little one there does not try to stuff big bird through one of the subs ports!!

Now I completely agree with your decision to switch / upgrade!

My job is in question as layoff notices are flying, or my new 115" Elune Reference tab screen and the AE4000U would already be running right now, but oh well, I've never been laid-off from work, ever, 20 years and never had to worry.... Your room looks AWESOME!
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