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post #31 of 134
Thanks. I'm surprised that it can't handle a seemingly easy task like that. Oh well.
post #32 of 134
I just want to see how many times we can get jdsmoothie to reply to this thread. Not to bash or anything, but when I searched for this receiver model avsforum, this is what came up. I think when you title a thread XXX12 your not making it very easy to find.

I just bought this unit today from BB as an open box plus they had an additional 20% off on the table it was on bringing it down to $680. Honestly for any piece of gear made in china I probably paid too much for it. Still contemplating weather I will keep it or not.

As goes impulse buys...
post #33 of 134
When using the "Search This Forum" button with the key words "Denon 3312", the XX12 Owner's thread will normally appear before this thread as it has a "3312" tag and is posted to far more frequently than is this thread.

Regarding your purchase, you actually got a great deal, roughly $200 less than from even authorized dealers that provide a discount off MSRP.
post #34 of 134
I'm watching The Dark Knight through my Ps3 connected to my 3312 via HDMI and was wondering why the 3312 will not display Dolby TruHD. It says Multichannel+PLIIx or something like that.

On the PS3, I unchecked any decoding. Prior to doing so, the bly ray was only working in Dolby Digital.

Should I just assume that TruHD working?
post #35 of 134
If you have the Dolby TrueHD track correctly selected on the BD (as it may not default to the HD audio track), then yes, it's working. The way you have it set up now, the PS3 is decoding the audio to PCM (AVR reads "Mult CH In"). If you want the 3312CI to decode it, the PS3 must be set to "bitstream" vice LPCM (as long as it's a slim PS3, if it's a fat PS3 leave it where it's at as the fat PS3 cannot decode HD audio).
post #36 of 134
Just got a chance to try that. If I leave evrything the way it is, the Denon will display Dolby Digital +PIIx (the ps3 is set to bitstream and in audio settings, everything is checked).

If I uncheck everything (Dolby Tru HD, DD, DTS, etc) except for the Linear PCMs in audio settings on the PS3, the Denon displays Multi-in +PlIIx (ps3 still set to bitstream).

The discs (batman 1 and 2) don't give you the option of choosing audio output from the menu (unless I just don't know how) but on the back of the disc covers, they both say Dolby Tru HD.

Still can't get this working
post #37 of 134
Hold off on a response guys. Looks like the only way to change audio output on a blu ray using the ps3 is to buy the Sony PS3 remote and hit the "audio" button. I'm gonna give this a try tomorrow. I'll report back.

Thanks
post #38 of 134
So got the remote and hit the audio button and all it did was go through the various audio languages.

I borrowed a blu ray from a friend (Life, BBC documentary) and popped it in and straight away the receiver displayed HD audio. So, I think everything is set up right but for whatever reason, there is no way to change default audio on the batman movies.

Anyone have any other ideas on how to change blu ray disk default audio on ps3 (assuming that this is the problem)?
post #39 of 134
Has anyone had issues with the 3312CI not picking up the microphone during the Audyssey Auto Setup? I plug in the microphone and it goes right to the setup guide, but when I run the measurements, it comes back with "No Microphone or Speaker".

Thanks,
Dana
post #40 of 134
Anyone know if the Denon 4311 main remote can be used to control a 3312?
post #41 of 134
Friends,

I have this receiver and noticed the remote control jacks on the back. These are also discussed on page 20 of the manual.

Does anyone know of specific brands/models of compatible devices that I can use with these jacks?

My use involves the fact that the receiver is placed near the floor of my setup. When my wife and kids use the remote, they tend to aim it upwards and at the TV. Thus, I'd like to put some kind of IR eye above the TV so it can catch the remote signal where they naturally point it.

It is very poorly documented in the manual. Manual just states to use a "commercially available IR receiver". However, searches on Amazon for IR receivers are met with results that don't indicate compatibility one way or the other.

Any thoughts or advice on how to use this feature?
post #42 of 134
I am having a problem with my 3312, which is brand new and arrived yesterday. I am familiar with Denon's menus, since I last owned the 3808ci. The problem is that I am not getting DTS MA or Dolby Digital to display on the receiver. I have an Oppo-93 player, and I just can't figure out why everything shows an analog signal coming in, yet it is over HDMI. I tried the Oppo to send out bitstream, and automatic, no change at all, so I am assuming there is something that is making the receiver think the signal is analog because it is converting everything to Dolby pro logic, which is what I selected for optical/analog inputs.

Can anyone help?
post #43 of 134
^^^

it can't possibly be an "analog" signal coming in over hdmi.... assuming you are getting any sound at all, and you are only connected by hdmi, it is getting a digital signal...

go to the "info" screen in the menu and see what the audio signal coming in is... it will almost certainly show 2 channel, thus defaulting to using dplii...

there's a setting you've missed somewhere on the oppo that is forcing a downmix to stereo (2 channel pcm)...
post #44 of 134
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

it can't possibly be an "analog" signal coming in over hdmi.... assuming you are getting any sound at all, and you are only connected by hdmi, it is getting a digital signal...

go to the "info" screen in the menu and see what the audio signal coming in is... it will almost certainly show 2 channel, thus defaulting to using dplii...

there's a setting you've missed somewhere on the oppo that is forcing a downmix to stereo (2 channel pcm)...

Chris, I will give things a try tomorrow. The settings on the Oppo were exactly the same as when I unhooked the AVR-3808 yesterday. There's one other possibility, the 3808 was HDMI 1.3a so I had one of the Oppo's HMDI cables going directly to my projector for 3D, the 2nd output on the Oppo went to the 3808. Since the extra cable was 20 feet and the Oppo is only one shelf down from the new 3312, I used an older HDMI cable (which was at least 1.3a capable) but I don't think it is high speed. Perhaps that is a problem? I tried Transformers Blu-ray and the 3D was fine but the sound was Dolby pro logic.

I'll report back tomorrow after tinkering for a while.
post #45 of 134
Impulse B-Day project.

2 Sets of Yamaha NSAW-570WH from costco at under $100/pr

and Niles-SPS4 for about 20 bucks on CL

The yammys are 6ohm speakers

Am i going to have any issues with the driving them with the 3312CI in zone 2,

if this all works out once installed can i drive a 3rd set in the garage.

I kinda got lost reading the manual for the 3312, and the SPS-4

I want to safely drive the 4 and possible 2 more down the road.

future set, either 6 to 8 ohms.

If 6 (6ohm speakers is pushing it with the sps4, i can certainly pull another zone with the 4311ci in the other room. Would just be more of a pain i suppose but give more flexibility in zones.

FYI, im not using anything but 5.1 off the 3312ci.

I think there is technically a zone 3 as well if that simplifies anything.
post #46 of 134
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Originally Posted by paulbearer View Post

Friends,

I have this receiver and noticed the remote control jacks on the back. These are also discussed on page 20 of the manual.

Does anyone know of specific brands/models of compatible devices that I can use with these jacks?

My use involves the fact that the receiver is placed near the floor of my setup. When my wife and kids use the remote, they tend to aim it upwards and at the TV. Thus, I'd like to put some kind of IR eye above the TV so it can catch the remote signal where they naturally point it.

It is very poorly documented in the manual. Manual just states to use a "commercially available IR receiver". However, searches on Amazon for IR receivers are met with results that don't indicate compatibility one way or the other.

Any thoughts or advice on how to use this feature?

The Xantech stuff works great. This is a great deal on a kit with everything you need except a mono 3.5mm phone plug cable (male plug on both ends) to connect the connecting block to the Denon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o03_s00_i00
post #47 of 134
I am just curious as to how the Denon avr-3312 compares to the avr-3311? Are they both the same in terms of pure sound quality? If sound quality was one's only concern, not features/room correction/ect...would a person gain anything by purchasing an avr-3312 over the avr-3311? Thanks!
post #48 of 134
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Originally Posted by Martycool007 View Post

I am just curious as to how the Denon avr-3312 compares to the avr-3311? Are they both the same in terms of pure sound quality? If sound quality was one's only concern, not features/room correction/ect...would a person gain anything by purchasing an avr-3312 over the avr-3311? Thanks!

From what I recall, they have the same amps, DAC's and Audyssey version. There was fairly minor tweakage for the 3312 other than AirPlay included at no additional cost and an extra HDMI input (I think). I think the 3312 can display the GUI over a 3D signal also. That's about it, so no sound difference.
post #49 of 134
airplay is free upgrade on 3311ci as well. 3311CI looks better cosmetically. God the new denons this year are bugly. What were they thinking/??? you know what they say about opionions though. its just mine. FYI, 3311CI has the blue light too for digital audio. Seems silly they omitted thaton the 3312ci. Ill live though. All said they are very simiar AVRS. and the 3311 at the right price would be a fine choice. !!
post #50 of 134
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Originally Posted by nc88keyz View Post

airplay is free upgrade on 3311ci as well. 3311CI looks better cosmetically. God the new denons this year are bugly. What were they thinking/??? you know what they say about opionions though. its just mine. FYI, 3311CI has the blue light too for digital audio. Seems silly they omitted thaton the 3312ci. Ill live though. All said they are very simiar AVRS. and the 3311 at the right price would be a fine choice. !!

And I just happen to have my 3311CI up for sale in the classifieds here (upgraded to a 4311)
post #51 of 134
nice!!. the 3311ci is a classy broad.

khollister any insight on my yammy outdoor speaker scenario on zone 2....dont everyone chime in at once.
post #52 of 134
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Originally Posted by nc88keyz View Post

nice!!. the 3311ci is a classy broad.

khollister any insight on my yammy outdoor speaker scenario on zone 2....dont everyone chime in at once.

I don't use zones (only use the AVR to drive the theater), but the 3312 is only 6 ohm rated I believe. Running a single pair of those speakers might be an issue, let alone 2 simultaneously.

I am not personally familiar with the Niles box, but a quick glance at the Niles web site indicates it has some impedance transform capability for paralleled speakers, but I still think the amp is going to be presented with a 4 ohm or lower load with 2+ pair of 4 ohm speakers connected. It is also not rated for the full output of the Denon, but that is probably not a huge concern unless you need to invoke the warranty.

The safest approach is to use the zone 2, zone 3 pre-outs to drive a 4 ohm stable external multi-channel power amp, but that is likely to be cost prohibitive.

Of course this all might not matter if the 6 ohm rating on the 3312 is just due to current capacity - since the outdoor speaker will likely not be running at reference levels, it is possible at least one pair could be driven without the over-current protection tripping in the Denon.

On the other hand, if the amps are not stable at 4 ohms, you could nuke the amp and the speakers worst case. I have no information as to what the reason for the Denon rating is.
post #53 of 134
Just an FYI, Amazon has this receiver for half of MSRP today.

Finally pulled the trigger and ordered one, even though it's last year's model. Should be a solid upgrade from my old Onkyo with its fried HDMI board that Onkyo wanted me to jump through hoops to replace. smile.gif
post #54 of 134
Thank you....

I might just get some audiosource amp or something. although i think the niles might be ok.

OR


return the speakers to costco. hmm
post #55 of 134
my 3311 went out, so I bought a AVR3312CI at a very good deal from amazon
post #56 of 134
i would fix the 3311ci. what on earth happened to that ??? Great AVR. She is sexy!!!
post #57 of 134
604 amazon gold 3312cis left as of 8:00pm.

Snooze or Loose or Go with 3312ci and feel violated.
post #58 of 134
This is a great deal. I have a Yamaha V663 and I am thinking whether or not I should get this.
post #59 of 134
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Originally Posted by nc88keyz View Post

i would fix the 3311ci. what on earth happened to that ??? Great AVR. She is sexy!!!

I will, in the meantime, I can have something to listen to
post #60 of 134
After reading about as much as I possibly could about the AVR-3312CI, i decided to take the plunge. Of course the only reason I did is because Amazon was selling it for $550. At first I wasnt sure if I really needed to upgrade from the current receiver I have, Onkyo TX-SR805. Its been great for me for the past 3 1/2 years. But I have always needed more HDMI ports. I have to use a 3-port HDMI switch along with the receiver currently just to hook up everything. Still im not so sure if i made the right choice to upgrade from the Onkyo 805. I guess I'll find out when I get the Denon receiver sometime next week and have some time to tinker with it for a couple of weeks.
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