'Preview sony vpl-hw30es' - Page 2

Exactly what will a 3d vw85 be like...what about pricing

I have no idea. There has been news about the vw95, and it's not clear if that's the vw85 3D replacement or the vw90 replacement.

The thing is, will the vw95 be worth 2-3x the cost of the hw30? BUt isn't always the question we must ask ourselves?

The vw95 should have a better lens, full remote control of zoom, focus, and better native on/off contrast. Maybe the vw95 will also have 480 or 960 Motion Flow with the possibly of better Frame Insertion such as Clear and Clear Plus on the new hx929 LED/LCD displays, although the hx929 uses backlight strobing which the vw95 will not have.

If Sony does a good job enhancing the 3D performance of the hw30, I still think it could offer a great balance of performance and price.

What does that equate to in US $$$

jae3,

We will just ahve to wait and see. Many times the prices in different countries have nothing to do and are not close to what they are sold for in the USA. This is due to different taxes and sale structure in different countries.

google

Our complete Preview of the Sony VPL-HW30 is now online.


Regards,
Ekki

www.Cine4home.de

You also have a YouTube demo but unfortunately for me it's in German and I can barely understand American. Any chance for subtitles or an English version?

Also Google Chrome says it's translating the site but it's not. Is you site protected or is Google translator on the fritz?

EDIT: Able to get it using Safari and the Google Translate page. Not sure what's up with Chrome.

Google translate didn't work for me in either IE or Firefox. It will translate if you use the Yahoo bablefish translator.

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate...rUrl=Translate

Yup that's what I used. The translation still gave me a headache!
All I could gather was the 2D performance overall is no better than the HW20.
In some ways worse?

Well at least you fellows get 3D..if a decrease in 2D isn't important.

No you got that wrong, The HW30 performance in 2D is better thanks to faster panels, 120Hz FI and more calibration options. It just does not provide more contrast than a HW20.


Regards,
Ekki

Thanks for your review.

Thanks, yeah the contrast is what I was referring too.

Outstanding review as usual!

Do you calibrate using Video (16-235) or PC(0-255) levels? I am trying to reconcile different reviewers' contrast measurements as well as that we measure at our studio.

Contrast is to video what watts are to audio. Almost everyone fixates on this number(s) and draws a complete conclusion with a total disregard for other specs and actually real life viewing/listening.

Yeah I hear ya! I like single ended triodes as well.
Not many watts ,but they sure sound good.
I'm not totally fixated on contrast. If I were I would own a JVC.
It seems to be the only aspect of importance with its owners. The motion blur, dullness in certain scenes isn't important.

Glad I ran an ethernet cable to the front of my HT.


Now that is some fantastic news. 900 lumens at near D65.

I wish there was a way to translate the youtube video from Ekki's review.

Thanks Ekki. Great read.

Please, one straight forward question: Is the NATIVE contrast/black level of the HW30 better, the same, or not as good as the HW20? (All of these contrast statements are not 'black and white' - pardon the pun). Thanks.

I do not mean to answer for EKKI, but my understanding having read his review suggests the hw20 has very slightly better 2D native ON/OFF contrast. The review only refers to the 70K versus 80K with both projectors in dynamic iris mode. However, I think we can infer with dynamic iris OFF, this would also translate into a slight proportional difference in NATIVE on/off contrast. BUT... is the difference enough to chose a hw20 over a hw30 at or near the same cost? IMHO, NO.

Looks about the same native from this spread sheet. It should be slightly better native than the VW60...which looked fine too me in person.


http://www.homecinema-fr.com/Colorim...rojecteurs.xls
Here's the html version http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...google.comhtml

Looks like I had better pull out the box and packing for my Epson 8100...
Even from the previews, it looks like this will hands down beat my current projector in 2D and will bring 3D to the party to boot. Have been waiting for a projector that could do this without placing tight restrictions on placement.

Any thoughts on screen material for this bad boy?
Looking at putting up a new fixed screen with 1.0 matte white or 1.1 high contrast white material.

Google translation of the Cine4Home preview:

http://translate.google.com/translat..._Beta_Test.htm

I thought you came up with a translator for the YouTube videos.

Yeah..without a doubt! lol
Not to down the Epson, but these units are in a different class all together.
What's wrong with your current screen?

I had the pre-launch model a month ago for a quick test, performance was great, this projector is going to be a very succesfull product, it could be easy sold at twice the price..., that is the quality of the image you get for 3.500 complete 3D kit, projector + two glasses + ir emitter.

Competitors costing up to 7.500 to 9.000 will have a hard time to convince the customer why to pay more.

New models will be launch in September, not yet model number, but a replacement for the actual 90, and ... a top class model is comming in Jannuary ..., thing about a projector in the 12.000 - 15.000 price range to be presented as a statement in front of products costing 2 or 3 times more.

Sony is doing they home work.

( YES, I am a Sony Projector Dealer, but sell many other brands )

There has been info about a vw95es, and I also was told to expect a new flag ship projector to be announced at Cedia. I wondered if that might have the 21:9 panels.