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To be both honest and speak frankly, I just went through a similar ordeal with an excellent Mitsubishi 4000 thread. The pros and cons were stated and many members and sites contributed.

Then one member started putting his name in a whole slew of new threads, which were already covered by existing threads. Finally he revealed his true intent that he was starting his own projector website and was essentially using AVS for free advertising. Isn't commercial use or intent against our rules?


Therefore I recommend that we stick with the balanced thread below until we start the Official Sony VPL-HW30ES Owners thread. Its already mid-June with a release date in July so there is little point in fragmenting the resource. Let new readers go to one place, then let owners (and reviewers) start sharing their experiences in the new thread.

I am on the interest list incidentally, but will graciously give some else the honor of starting that thread.

Thanks for listening.


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1340204
 
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Originally Posted by HoustonHoyaFan /forum/post/20586519


Given that this is a first hand account by Kraine who will no doubt follow up with his usual thorough detailed review and may even answer questions I say leave this thread seperate.


Thank you for your trust HoustonHoyaFan.
 
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Kraine thanks for posting the early preview. It's amazing how you guys always get first pick at the new projectors. The information is always top shelf and welcomed since you have seen so many different projectors.


There is no telling when it will actually be released, so this separate thread is perfect for those that have actually seen the projector vs. the continuous posting of press releases.


merci beaucoup!
 
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Thanks..


I'm trying to get the model number info on the Hydra 3D glasses which will be compatible with the vw90es.


EDIT:


OK here we go... here is the info on the new 3D glasses shipping with the release of the Sony hw30/Hydra. Thanks to Rob McDonough for this information.


Model name: TDG-PJ1

Main Spec

- Integrated Filter into Lens

- Weight saving

- Improved ghost

- USB charging type

Color

- Black (No white)

Size

- Normal size(No small size)
 
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Originally Posted by cbaseuser /forum/post/20597075


I just hope the black level is 'at least' on par with the hw-20. Any guesses on native contrast? On the other thread I believe is was something like 9000:1 for the hw-20.

The hw20 had a max on/off contrast potential around 14K:1. I believe the vw30 will offer the same panel performance. We have to see what impact any optical block changes to support 3D (polarizers + higher intensity lamp)) have on performance.


I believe Sony has increased lamp output to compensate for optical block changes for 3D, but it's hard to say what this might do to 2D performance. 2D may be brighter, thus causing black levels to be elevated, so maybe black out conditions may not be as dark as the hw20. Even if you close the iris all the way down, a brighter lamp would cause slightly elevated lumen output, right? We'll have to see.


So, on/off & ansi contrast is probably similar.


Lumen output range for 3D, Increased.


Lumen output range for 2D also probably increased but impact unknown.
 
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Originally Posted by HiFiFun /forum/post/20586731


Finally he revealed his true intent that he was starting his own projector website and was essentially using AVS for free advertising. Isn't commercial use or intent against our rules?

Kraine is a member of long and good standing, so I think it's fair to say if he was going to misbehave he would have done so by now.


Back to the pj, from the description it sounds like they might be duty-cycling the lamp by concentrating the same power in short bursts while the shutters are open.


This it might be the same average power with no increase in 2D brightness.


Also possible is that they are using higher power for 3D, but that it consumes the lamp electrode faster (which may also happen with the pulsed mode) and they only use it for 3D, with again no additional brightness for 3D.
 
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Hi Noah, the HW30 Lamp isn't the same as the HW20, it's a new Lamp.
 
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I believe you have the wrong member referred to in your response. Not that I agree or disagree either way with the OPs statement, I believe I know who he may be talking about.
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Originally Posted by noah katz /forum/post/20598100


Kraine is a member of long and good standing, so I think it's fair to say if he was going to misbehave he would have done so by now.
 
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Originally Posted by noah katz /forum/post/20599944


Are there any lamp power spec's?

Noah, it's an 200W. UHP Lamp, that's all I know for the moment.
 
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Originally Posted by HiFiFun /forum/post/20586731


To be both honest and speak frankly, I just went through a similar ordeal with an excellent Mitsubishi 4000 thread. The pros and cons were stated and many members and sites contributed.

Then one member started putting his name in a whole slew of new threads, which were already covered by existing threads. Finally he revealed his true intent that he was starting his own projector website and was essentially using AVS for free advertising. Isn't commercial use or intent against our rules?


Therefore I recommend that we stick with the balanced thread below until we start the Official Sony VPL-HW30ES Owners thread. Its already mid-June with a release date in July so there is little point in fragmenting the resource. Let new readers go to one place, then let owners (and reviewers) start sharing their experiences in the new thread.

I am on the interest list incidentally, but will graciously give some else the honor of starting that thread.

Thanks for listening.


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1340204

Kraine is a good guy and has contributed much to AVS over the years. If he wants to start a thread, let him start a thread. What's the big deal? There is more good information here than in the other thread anyway.
 
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A detail that I had missed, here are the differences between the Picture menu of the HW20 and the HW30 :


HW20




HW30

 
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Originally Posted by kraine /forum/post/20603895


A detail that I had missed, here are the differences between the Picture menu of the HW20 and the HW30 :


HW20




HW30


French and American (or is it that foreign English)?



Looks like sony has add a lot more presets. Is Cinema 1 closest to D65?


Also Kraine is there any Ethernet remote/command control (it has a port) or is it just for the 3D IR repeater?
 
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Hi William,


It's only the 3D IR repeater, there is no ethernet command.


During the presentation I wasn't authorize to use my Meter to see if the different presets are close to D65, so you will have to wait my review of the final model.
 
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Originally Posted by kraine /forum/post/20604052


Hi William,


It's only the 3D IR repeater, there is no ethernet command.


During the presentation I wasn't authorize to use my Meter to see if the different presets are close to D65, so you will have to wait my review of the final model.

Kraine - Hi, is there a 3 pin VESA connector for using an external IR blaster - or more important, using an RF transmitter like the Monster Vision 3D RF glasses?


I own these RF glasses for my JVS RS50 and would like to re-use them with the Sony. thanks!!
 
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Originally Posted by zombie10k /forum/post/20604281


Kraine - Hi, is there a 3 pin VESA connector for using an external IR blaster - or more important, using an RF transmitter like the Monster Vision 3D RF glasses?


I own these RF glasses for my JVS RS50 and would like to re-use them with the Sony. thanks!!

Helle zombie10k, you can see on those both pictures all the input and output :





 
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