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post #241 of 1402
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Originally Posted by sotti View Post

The OEM i1 Display Pro's will be unaltered by us.

Perfect! That's the answer that I was looking for. Thanks.

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The Chroma5 update to create the enhanced version required the update so we could probably recognize the meter and didn't require individual keys in order for the accuracy to work, so unlike chromapure, you could plug that enhanced chroma5 into anybodies CalMAN and get the enhanced accuracy.

Yes, I understand the reason. SpectraCal put the enhanced accuracy changes in the hardware, ChromaPure puts it in software. The issue was (unfortunately) the outcome for those that wanted to use the Chroma 5 in more than one software product.

Kal
post #242 of 1402
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Originally Posted by Razz1 View Post

SpectraCal C6 is $595 until 7/31/11. Then it's up to $695. Based on what you are saying. Why would anyone want to purchase this device at this point? You really ought to have your company extend the sale price to a month or so after the product has launched. We don't even know what we are paying for yet.

Tricky, Dicky price point 1... sheez.. Buy a pig in poke from us. We guarrantee our pig might be wearing lipstick.
post #243 of 1402
So, did anybody try to use an OEM Display III hardware in both ChromaPure and CalMan with success?
Does the latest available version of CalMan support this new hardware? (Is it possible to test it?)

I think I may want to pick up the OEM version rather than the ColorMunki Display (even if I don't want to buy any software licenses just yet), so later I will be able to buy a third party software if I think I want it (if ArgyllCMS won't support it soon enough or I wish to use one of these nice GUIs instead).

So, it would be good to know if this is possible. (Use the same OEM hardware in both CalMan and ChromaPure or possibly any other similar third-party software.) -> Are the third-party license keys are unique or shared between the third-party re-sellers?

Can I even buy the OEM hardware from any of you (SpectraCal, ChromaPure) without having (or buying with) any software licenses?
post #244 of 1402
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Originally Posted by janos666 View Post

So, did anybody try to use an OEM Display III hardware in both ChromaPure and CalMan with success?
Does the latest available version of CalMan support this new hardware? (Is it possible to test it?)

I think I may want to pick up the OEM version rather than the ColorMunki Display (even if I don't want to buy any software licenses just yet), so later I will be able to buy a third party software if I think I want it (if ArgyllCMS won't support it soon enough or I wish to use one of these nice GUIs instead).

So, it would be good to know if this is possible. (Use the same OEM hardware in both CalMan and ChromaPure or possibly any other similar third-party software.) -> Are the third-party license keys are unique or shared between the third-party re-sellers?

Can I even buy the OEM hardware from any of you (SpectraCal, ChromaPure) without having (or buying with) any software licenses?

Hasn't this already been answered in the negative? I thought you had to buy this meter with the specific software it will be used for (i.e. the meter is locked to the software package).
post #245 of 1402
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Originally Posted by janos666 View Post

So, did anybody try to use an OEM Display III hardware in both ChromaPure and CalMan with success?
Does the latest available version of CalMan support this new hardware? (Is it possible to test it?)

I think I may want to pick up the OEM version rather than the ColorMunki Display (even if I don't want to buy any software licenses just yet), so later I will be able to buy a third party software if I think I want it (if ArgyllCMS won't support it soon enough or I wish to use one of these nice GUIs instead).

So, it would be good to know if this is possible. (Use the same OEM hardware in both CalMan and ChromaPure or possibly any other similar third-party software.) -> Are the third-party license keys are unique or shared between the third-party re-sellers?

Can I even buy the OEM hardware from any of you (SpectraCal, ChromaPure) without having (or buying with) any software licenses?

Current Versions of ChromaPure & CalMAN don't have support for the upcoming OEM iDisplay 3.

both Companies have only pre-production meters that they are testing already for some months now but not the final OEM Meters.

When the meters will arrive and the shippment will start, then both companies will release a new build of their software with iD3 Support.

After the Meters will arrive, we will informed if the OEM Version can work in both programs.
post #246 of 1402
Actually our public beta version of 4.3, available on our forums, has OEM i1 Display Pro support.

But you're right there are no meters available to the public yet.
post #247 of 1402
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My assumption is that a stock OEM Display 3 unmodified by the vendor would work in any 3rd-party software that supports it. However, until we actually have units to ship (which should be next week), I can't say with 100% certainty.

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Originally Posted by janos666 View Post
So, it would be good to know if this is possible. (Use the same OEM hardware in both CalMan and ChromaPure or possibly any other similar third-party software.) -> Are the third-party license keys are unique or shared between the third-party re-sellers?

Can I even buy the OEM hardware from any of you (SpectraCal, ChromaPure) without having (or buying with) any software licenses?
post #248 of 1402
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Originally Posted by sotti View Post
Actually our public beta version of 4.3, available on our forums, has OEM i1 Display Pro support.

But you're right there are no meters available to the public yet.
Can I expect my OEM i1 Display Pro to ship next week? The website only says late July.
post #249 of 1402
Is the ColorMunki Photo the better device?
What would you recommend?
post #250 of 1402
Thread Starter 
We will begin shipping Display 3 orders Wednesday. They will be fulfilled in the order in which they were received.
post #251 of 1402
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Originally Posted by TomHuffman View Post

We will begin shipping Display 3 orders Wednesday. They will be fulfilled in the order in which they were received.

Music to my ears.
post #252 of 1402
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

Music to my ears.

Hey Buzz,
Looking forward to your review. I'm waiting for someone else to check one of these meters out before I place my order.
post #253 of 1402
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Originally Posted by slb View Post

Hey Buzz,
Looking forward to your review. I'm waiting for someone else to check one of these meters out before I place my order.

After watching the low light capability video I'm looking forward to seeing what it can do for 10 and 20% grayscale/gamma calibration and black level/contrast measurements. If it does as well for color as my Chroma 5 when profiled to the i1Pro I'm going to be one happy camper.
post #254 of 1402
Yeah, based on Tom's evaluations, this meter looks to have incredible performance for the price. I'm just a DIY'er and I really don't need another meter, but it would pair well with my Colormunki spectro, and at Spectracal's intro price, it's hard to pass up.
post #255 of 1402
I agree. Profile the D3 or whatever SpectraCal calls it from the Colormunki and you'll have a terrific combination.
post #256 of 1402
I was told my OEM i1 Display Pro from SpectraCal would ship the last week of July. Any reason why ChromaPure users are getting the meter sooner?
post #257 of 1402
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Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U View Post
I was told my OEM i1 Display Pro from SpectraCal would ship the last week of July. Any reason why ChromaPure users are getting the meter sooner?
My understanding is that SpectraCal will get them in but also will generate NIST certificates which could delay to the end of the Month.
post #258 of 1402
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Originally Posted by Jim HTPC

My understanding is that SpectraCal will get them in but also will generate NIST certificates which could delay to the end of the Month.
I believe the NIST traceable calibration cert is only for the C6, not the OEM meters.
post #259 of 1402
So would profiling the OEM model to my Colormunki give me results that are just as accurate as the "NIST" certified C6 models, if not more so? Or are there still accuracy advantages to ordering a c6? In other words, any reason to spend the money on a c6 if I have a Colormunki I can profile to? I have never profiled before and the COlormunki (with Calman 4) was my first meter. I like it, but hate that I dont have a real tripod holder and the darkfield calilbration every 10 minutes is very annoying.
post #260 of 1402
Accuracy wise, they'd probably be similar, there are also some speed advantages to the C6, but if you already have the colormunki, then grabbing and OEM i1 Display Pro is going to be a great combo.
post #261 of 1402
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Originally Posted by djams View Post
I believe the NIST traceable calibration cert is only for the C6, not the OEM meters.
I don't believe SpectraCAL is selling a plain jane OEM meter nor supporting it.
post #262 of 1402
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Originally Posted by Jim HTPC View Post
I don't believe SpectraCAL is selling a plain jane OEM meter nor supporting it.
We've had the pre-order page up for weeks, and it's cheaper than our competitors.
http://consumer.spectracal.com/produ...-oem-i1display
post #263 of 1402
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Originally Posted by sotti View Post

We've had the pre-order page up for weeks, and it's cheaper than our competitors.
http://consumer.spectracal.com/produ...-oem-i1display

You spectracal folks always have to get the little dig in: The cheaper than our competitors part wasn't needed to answer the question.
post #264 of 1402
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Originally Posted by sotti View Post


We've had the pre-order page up for weeks, and it's cheaper than our competitors.
http://consumer.spectracal.com/produ...-oem-i1display

I would be curious if the "OEM" and C6 they sell are the same with same tables.
post #265 of 1402
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Originally Posted by Jim HTPC View Post

I would be curious if the "OEM" and C6 they sell are the same with same tables.

Nope, they are different.

Different tables, different firmware, different parts from x-rite.
post #266 of 1402
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Originally Posted by sotti View Post

Nope, they are different.

Different tables, different firmware, different parts from x-rite.

What "parts" are different?

Kal
post #267 of 1402
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Originally Posted by kal View Post


What "parts" are different?

Kal

Black outer housing.

At least that's all that can be confirmed so far. I'm sure SpectraCal wouldn't be touting the hardware difference if it wasn't something significant. I do find it odd that this question hasn't been answered yet, given that they've obviously been testing these for quite some time.
post #268 of 1402
So is ChromPure the only one that has the auto calibration feature with the DVDO DUO?

And also, just to make sure, this will work fine with RP LED & Lamp based DLP units right?
post #269 of 1402
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

So is ChromPure the only one that has the auto calibration feature with the DVDO DUO?

And also, just to make sure, this will work fine with RP LED & Lamp based DLP units right?

Autocal is okay but my experience is that the results need tweaking. There is a program (free) that works like ControlCal and you can download it here.

Does what work with RP LED etc.? ChromaPure? AutoCal? Yes.
post #270 of 1402
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

Autocal is okay but my experience is that the results need tweaking. There is a program (free) that works like ControlCal and you can download it here.

In our next major release, we will be offering a manual touch-up tool similar to this that you can use after auto-calibrate has finished.
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