A new, brighter led pj from SIM2?

Mico 60?

The MICO 60 is not new, it's been available for some time now.

The MICO 60 is a MICO 50 with the addition of an RJ-45 connector for Ethernet connection of the projector via LAN.

There is nothing complicated about an NDA.

I do not think it will be anything special if anything at all.

Well they tend to be first to market. Hope so.

NDAs mean nothing. As if a company would spend the money to sue somebody over disclosing a new piece. THese companies are so cheap anyways. When some one in the know says I'm under an NDA, it means they really don't know very much

Sim2 first to market... really

LED.... No
Crystal... No
CRT... No
Domino series... No
3D... No
"triple flash"...No
Dynamic Iris... No

Most high end manufacturers actaully trail the market making sure that the technology is good, usuable, and not going to break before updating designs. The Lumis 3D is a great example and so is LED and the MICO.

They do improve on great designs and make they amazing, and then back them with even better customer service, but I am not sure they have lead the market in recent years.

Maybe I am wrong. I hope so.

Google "Apple sues NDA". I did it at the time of this post and it yielded about 1,080,000 results in 0.20 seconds.

Apple yes, but any HT company, no.

Who else has "triple flash" in a home theater 3D projector? No one else does Dynamic Black the way it's done in the Lumis. Did anyone else deliver a 3-chip folded path light engine before SIM2?

I think what GetGray was referring to is SIM2's propensity to actually deliver some of the newer technologies a month or two before their competition...suggesting that they may have gotten a head start on R&D efforts or else they applied more engineering man hours on development of a technology that everyone jumped on at the same time. For example, Runco, PD, and DPI all showed LED products at CEDIA two years ago, as did SIM2, but the MICO was the first to actually ship into the market place. SIM2 was also first to market with some of the next-gen DLP chips from TI.

Again, we're talking about the consumer market...not commercial or pro. It's not a situation where SIM2 is way out front and the others are playing catch up so much as they often tend to ship new stuff a little ahead of others.

Thanks Pete. Pretty much exactly what I meant.

I'll give you 3D, Sim2 flopped around with the stack before integrating it with the Lumis this year. I give that (3D) to DPI for first most stable 3D high end consumer piece. My perception, not taking it from the model announcement calendar.

I'm not AV old enough to discuss CRT. I shudder to think about having to have had a G90 stack volkswagen hanging from the ceiling to be happy.

Crystal?

The Domino and crystal are basically OEM versions of other manufacturers.

Their CRTs where remanufactured NECs and others just like the other high end brands.

I am not trying to start an argument. I am just saying most high end manufacturers including Sim2 do not usually lead the market.

According to projectorcentral... yes they are not always correct. DP, and Runco and Vivitek were first to market with their LED projectors.
MITs, Sony and others have full HD 240hz or similar tech (more than Triple flash = 144hz)

As you said announce dates and first ship models do not really mean that an end user can go buy one.

I for one am glad the high end companies do not latch onto every new tech before it has time to prove if it is worth keeping around.

A lot of people were sitting on the fence last year hoping for a brighter LED. I hope Sim2, DPI or Runco do get some going. But, I haven't heard anyting from other mfgr's that I'm involved with. The Runco rep was at my house a couple of weeks ago, he hadn't heard anything as of then for them anyway. Maybe something will break loose on that front by CEDIA.

Domino 30, 35, and 80 were all SIM2. Domino 60 was Mostly OEM. Crystal 35 & 45 are OEM light engine with additional SIM2 "special sauce"

I don't believe the 240Hz referred to with respect to "MITs, Sony and others" translates to active 3D frame flashes per eye. They are limited to double flash (60Hz) per eye.

I would suggest a triple blend of the upcoming Optoma/Viewsonic/Acer 500 lumens 1280x800 units, if one is looking for brighter 1080P LED projection. I don't expect something brighter than the EE enabled Chillin boxes (TrueVango or Display Developments), to arrive soon.

Interesting, the Display Development HD6 looks like the Chilin OEM/Vango packaged with an iScan Duo. Do you know what the MSRP is?

http://www.displaydevelopment.com/dd..._specs_HD6.pdf

The DD is EE enabled, ">180% REC 709 With Natural Skin Tones from eeColor™ Technology", like the 'directsales' vango. Ask Jim Burns, it is his project.

Hmm, and they claim 1000 ANSI L

Like the EE directsale, same box Noah.

Just a general question but can you double stack LED projectors so you can really get a larger picture say in the 135-150 inch on a 16:9 area?

Runco has a matched pair stack available now.

In the under 3K section they are now trying out the first Vivitek Qumi, including how big can it go with its mere 300 lumens, some report upto 169", with just enough ligt for the odd outdoor ballgame viewing. If you can accept an high-gain screen, you could get in that range with a single 400-500 lumens machine, as you have a bit more light than that Qumi shown on an 142" diagonal Da-Lite 2.8 screen. It wil also depend on your fL requirements. From what I've seen sofar a single LED projector (Delta/Chillin by Sim2, Projection Design, or the XGA/WXGA LGs and Qumi) is not bright enough for me, perhaps on a very small screen. Most of the Cubes I have seen though could also use some more light.