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Yamaha Adaptive DRC vs. Dolby Volume, Audessey Dynamic Volume/EQ, THX Loudness Plus.

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hi freinds,

I'm in the market for a new AVR. I've been a Yamaha user for years and was looking at the A3000. I want to stick to the Yamaha brand but while going through the specs i realized that it does not have any technology as far as low volume listening is concerned.

I have to at most times listen at low volumes due to several reasons.

Has anyone been able to compare Yamaha Adaptive DRC vs. Dolby Volume, Audessey Dynamic Volume/EQ, THX Loudness Plus...?

Is the Yamaha Adaptive DRC as good as the other low volume technologies..?

Help on this will be appreciated.

Warm regards,

Rana

PS. Happy Summers...!!
post #2 of 16
Using both from time to time and I find that there is not much of a difference. The best one seems to be Dolby Volume that is found on the H/k's. No experience with it though as I've never used it. From reading though it does seem to be the one that does what it's supposed to do. If you prefer the Yamah brand and seem to be familiar with them you may want to stick to one of them. It is a brand that does seem to me anyway, to be the most reliable and trouble free. Always work and no surprises from them in my experience with them.
post #3 of 16
I have used both THX Loudness Plus and Dynamic EQ on my last two Onkyos (1007 and 3008). I prefer Loudness Plus for movies. Dynamic EQ is not bad, but it does have some parameters buried in the menu to adjust how agressive it is.

Dynamic EQ default setting is 0dB (recommended for movies), but I found when using that setting on some films the bass becomes overpowering and it muddies the dialog. THX Loudness Plus seemed to produce more pleasing results across multiple movie soundtracks. I don't know if Loudness Plus is doing more advanced analysis of the track and volume setting to adjust its curve or if the Loudness Plus curve is less aggressive than the Dynamic EQ curve with its default setting.

I also believe the Onkyo 3008/5008 have Dolby Volume as well but Dolby Volume is not a dynamic EQ application like the others mentioned. Dolby Volume is a volume normalizer.
post #4 of 16
Dolby Volume does do eq: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...ology-review/1

"Dolby explained that it's not just about flat-lining everything, instead it keeps the dynamic range of the audio by modulating the EQ to enhance the bass and fine detail, rather than just leaving you listening to the mid-tones only."
post #5 of 16
Dolby Volume uses both a "Volume Modeler" to EQ and a "Volume Leveler" to control dynamic range. Think of it as Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume combined. You can use Dolby Volume "Modeler" with or without the "Leveler" engaged.

From what I've gathered, it seems Dolby Volume is the best option available. Problem is, it's only available on HK AVR's (which lack alot of features compared to the competition) or more expensive AVR's such as the higher end Onkyo, Integra, and I believe, Anthem receivers.
post #6 of 16
Dolby Volume is far and away the best..
But significant DSP resources are required os the AVR needs to have enough memory and DSP mips..
Especially if also processing an HD audio stream such as DTS Master Audio..

Just my $0.02...
post #7 of 16
Thread Starter 
guys,

thanks for feedback on my query.

i was reading/researching further on Dolby Volume. It seems that only Onkyo, HK and Arcam AVRs have it.

Why don't other manufacturers like Yamaha, Marantz, Denon, Pioneer, NAD include it in their AVRs ?

It has been available for 2-3 yrs. Is the Dolby Volume license too expensive ?

This baffles me....

Regards,

Rana
post #8 of 16
probably because of:
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But significant DSP resources are required os the AVR needs to have enough memory and DSP mips..
post #9 of 16
Thread Starter 
i hope Yamaha can at least get in the Dolby Volume in their higher AVRs. That would be perfect or else i'll be forced to buy an Onkyo
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by alphaiii View Post
Dolby Volume uses both a "Volume Modeler" to EQ and a "Volume Leveler" to control dynamic range. Think of it as Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume combined. You can use Dolby Volume "Modeler" with or without the "Leveler" engaged.

From what I've gathered, it seems Dolby Volume is the best option available. Problem is, it's only available on HK AVR's (which lack alot of features compared to the competition) or more expensive AVR's such as the higher end Onkyo, Integra, and I believe, Anthem receivers.
That's correct, the Anthem has it, with mixed reviews on its performance which is why it now defaults to off. My own impression is that it works well, but is too much when set to level 10 (the old default). Having never used Audyssey's dynamic eq and volume, I would bet they have an advantage here because the level (which is set manually with dolby) could be set automatically during Audyssey's calibration. That's just my speculation, though, and it's not difficult to adjust the Dolby implementation regardless. Anthem's implementation sets the Dolby reference level when using ARC, but the amount of Dolby Volume leveler is still set manually, to preference. (Like I said, no big deal, easy to adjust, and it works well once set to preference.)
post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by rana_kirti View Post
Why don't other manufacturers like Yamaha, Marantz, Denon, Pioneer, NAD include it in their AVRs ?

It has been available for 2-3 yrs. Is the Dolby Volume license too expensive ?

This baffles me....

Regards,

Rana
Why would they include it if they already have something similar? I would bet that if you asked them, Audyssey would say their Dynamic EQ/Volume is every bit as good. You are assuming that it's a fact that Dolby Volume is better.
post #12 of 16
Thread Starter 
nah not assuming... it's what most of my google researching has brought me to... and majority of members on this and other forums where i posed the same question also seem to favor Dolby Volume.

Honestly i've not tried either of these technologies. I have a 7 yr old Yamaha RX V450 and now i'm looking to upgrade but i for sure need one which has good "Dialogue Intelligibility" specially at low volumes because i need to listen at low volumes quite often.

So the best technology among these which offers excellent "Dialogue Intelligibility" is what i'm looking for.
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by rana_kirti View Post

nah not assuming... it's what most of my google researching has brought me to... and majority of members on this and other forums where i posed the same question also seem to favor Dolby Volume.

Researching the Internet and finding that "the majority of members" "seem to favor Dolby Volume" using does not mean much. That's hardly evidence that it's a superior system.

I believe Audyssey MultEQ is a far superior calibration system than you find in Pioneer's MCACC or Yamaha YPAO. And Audyssey Dynamic EQ/Volume works very well too.

So I don't see any reason for Marantz or Denon to dump Audyssey and use a competing system when what they have works very well for them. I would say that if you emailed Audyssey and ask them, they will probably tell you why you should choose their system over competing systems.
post #14 of 16
The Denon 4311 has both Dynamic Eq/vol and Dolby Volume so you could have the best of both worlds.
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
Yes the 4311 is indeed an excellent and well accomplished AVR but i find the Denon sound a bit Flat.
post #16 of 16
Having heard them all, I feel Dolby Volume does the best job closely followed by Audyssey. Adaptive DRC does not hold a candle to either of these IMO.
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