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post #181 of 574
9/19/11 at 11:02pm
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Originally Posted by jlanzy View Post

Do I understand that for 3D, this pj doesn't do the vertical stretch for 2.35 AR for an anamorphic lens to fill a scope screen? If not, then I assume that would have to be done in the 3D BR player for the A lens to horizontally stretch it to fill the scope screen?

Would like to know this too, if anyone has the information.
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post #182 of 574
9/20/11 at 5:08am
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Originally Posted by phisch View Post

Would like to know this too, if anyone has the information.


Its correct, it can "only" do it in 2D mode, so you have to do it in a BR player (like a Oppo 93/95 !? ) or a ext. scaler


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post #183 of 574
9/20/11 at 6:33am
I could be mistaken, but I thought that the Sony did not have 3D stretch for A-lens. At least that is what I remember from CEDIA, but of course I could be wrong. I am sure some one will come along and correct me.
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post #184 of 574
9/20/11 at 9:13am
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

I am hoping to have a 95ES here soon and I can compare it to the 90ES and 30AES I have here now. And since I just had a RS40 and RS60 here I should have plenty to say...

I LOVE this time of year.

Very much look forward to it, Joe. Will you post here, or only on your own site?

PS: Now if you could also get a 1000ES to look at .... !
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post #185 of 574
9/20/11 at 9:16am
he is...
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post #186 of 574
9/20/11 at 9:19am
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

Very much look forward to it, Joe. Will you post here, or only on your own site?

PS: Now if you could also get a 1000ES to look at .... !

I will post everything here. My full Review though will be on my personal site since it is much easier to do a web page for me. Takes are fine on the Forum.

Btw, I will have a 1000ES to Review.
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post #187 of 574
9/20/11 at 9:23am
Joe, what is your website?
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post #188 of 574
9/20/11 at 9:24am
1. Click his name
2. Click visit Joerod's Homepage!
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post #189 of 574
9/20/11 at 9:30am
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Btw, I will have a 1000ES to Review.

Fantastic! The more info the better.
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post #190 of 574
9/20/11 at 9:35am
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I am hoping to have a 95ES here soon and I can compare it to the 90ES and 30AES I have here now. And since I just had a RS40 and RS60 here I should have plenty to say...

I LOVE this time of year.

Its like Christmas and New Years all rolled into one
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post #191 of 574
9/20/11 at 9:37am
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Originally Posted by Daniel Hutnicki View Post

Its like Christmas and New Years all rolled into one

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post #192 of 574
9/20/11 at 9:46am
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

I am hoping to have a 95ES here soon and I can compare it to the 90ES and 30AES I have here now. And since I just had a RS40 and RS60 here I should have plenty to say...

I LOVE this time of year.

Awesome
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post #193 of 574
9/20/11 at 9:56am
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I will post everything here. My full Review though will be on my personal site since it is much easier to do a web page for me. Takes are fine on the Forum.

Btw, I will have a 1000ES to Review.

Do you know when?
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post #194 of 574
9/20/11 at 10:09am
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Originally Posted by JustMike View Post

Do you know when?

When on which?

95ES hopefully 7 to 10 days. If not a little after.
1000ES hopefully Decemberish...

No worries, I will either help with starting an owner's thread here or let everyone know here and participate in one.
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post #195 of 574
9/20/11 at 10:46am
I primarily meant the 1000 -- since there was talk of AVS getting one of the show prototypes to look at, I thought maybe there was a shot at an early look. Right now, for my theater, the 95ES and the JVC are basically in a toss-up, depending largely on which one throws a brighter image. The JVC has better installation flexibility (more lens shift and longer throw) and the 4k-lite. The 95ES is believed to have better motion handling and better 3D, and is likely quieter. Comparing last year's models, the Sony was substantially brighter, but JVC may have made changes.

But the 1000.... That has the potential to be the best of all worlds. Equivalent or better installation flexibility, Sony's new 3D, high native contrast, high DI contrast, quiet, bright.
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post #196 of 574
9/20/11 at 11:36am
The 1000 will be a terrific piece as long as it is great with all material. As for JVC I know many are taking a "wait and see" approach after the dimming debacle. Sony strategically put the msrp of the 95 to set it up as a possible knockout punch for this year. Well played.
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post #197 of 574
9/20/11 at 12:29pm
Exactly my thinking, yes.
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post #198 of 574
9/20/11 at 6:02pm
Id sure like to ask the people from JVC if they have done tests with their "so called revised bulb" to ensure the premature dimness has really been fixed.
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post #199 of 574
9/20/11 at 7:12pm
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Originally Posted by SED <--- Rules View Post

The Sony VW95 will have a full CMS right? I don't want to spend more money on a Lumagen Mini.

I read somewhere that the luminance is now adjustable in the CMS. I think before there was only "xy" available for adjustment. So if this is indeed an improvement, we'll now have xyY which is all that is needed - assuming it is implemented correctly and tracks well linearly etc.

That said, I am still pretty sure I will pick up a Lumangen Mini no matter which PJ I get. This is because I am so tired of poor, buggy or PITA to use CMS systems (ahhem JVC). So it will be nice to just know going into it that the CMS and grayscale controls work well and are easy to use. Plus it will be very nice for automated calibration using third party software that provides such a feature.
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post #200 of 574
9/20/11 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

When on which?

95ES hopefully 7 to 10 days. If not a little after.
1000ES hopefully Decemberish...

No worries, I will either help with starting an owner's thread here or let everyone know here and participate in one.

You wouldn't happen to have a extra room to rent out while you reviewing these pjs would you
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post #201 of 574
9/20/11 at 7:25pm
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Originally Posted by JustMike View Post

I primarily meant the 1000 -- since there was talk of AVS getting one of the show prototypes to look at, I thought maybe there was a shot at an early look. Right now, for my theater, the 95ES and the JVC are basically in a toss-up, depending largely on which one throws a brighter image. The JVC has better installation flexibility (more lens shift and longer throw) and the 4k-lite. The 95ES is believed to have better motion handling and better 3D, and is likely quieter. Comparing last year's models, the Sony was substantially brighter, but JVC may have made changes.

But the 1000.... That has the potential to be the best of all worlds. Equivalent or better installation flexibility, Sony's new 3D, high native contrast, high DI contrast, quiet, bright.

I understand the enthusiasm for the 1000, but if I had the do-re-mi for it, I would really be putting it up against the SIM2 100 series, unless I had a pretty large screen, and I'm assuming that anyone in the price class would be putting it in a dedicated room with good light control.
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post #202 of 574
9/20/11 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by jlanzy View Post

I understand the enthusiasm for the 1000, but if I had the do-re-mi for it, I would really be putting it up against the SIM2 100 series, unless I had a pretty large screen, and I'm assuming that anyone in the price class would be putting it in a dedicated room with good light control.

A fair comment, but I, like some others, do prefer the lcos look rather than dlp, esp the high contrast. Also, the price of the 1000ES is that of entry level Sim2's; e.g., I think the Solo is about twice as much as the 1000.
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post #203 of 574
9/20/11 at 9:06pm
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Originally Posted by lovingdvd View Post

I read somewhere that the luminance is now adjustable in the CMS. I think before there was only "xy" available for adjustment. So if this is indeed an improvement, we'll now have xyY which is all that is needed - assuming it is implemented correctly and tracks well linearly etc.

That said, I am still pretty sure I will pick up a Lumangen Mini no matter which PJ I get. This is because I am so tired of poor, buggy or PITA to use CMS systems (ahhem JVC). So it will be nice to just know going into it that the CMS and grayscale controls work well and are easy to use. Plus it will be very nice for automated calibration using third party software that provides such a feature.

Thanks lovingdvd. Yes, it looks like the RCP (Real Color Processing) Version 2 will indeed have an adjustment for color brightness. I hope that Sony will make the CMS bug free so I can avoid spending more money on external devices like the Lumagen Mini. I'm really looking forward to JoeRod's review of the VW95....can't wait!
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post #204 of 574
9/20/11 at 9:37pm
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Originally Posted by lovingdvd View Post

I read somewhere that the luminance is now adjustable in the CMS. I think before there was only "xy" available for adjustment. So if this is indeed an improvement, we'll now have xyY which is all that is needed - assuming it is implemented correctly and tracks well linearly etc...

RCP 2 does not work correctly in the HW30. IIMU that Sony is aware of the issues and have promised a fixed version in the VW95.

The good news is that OOTB the Rec 709 mode is very accurate in both the HW30 and VW90 so a CMS ma not be required.
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post #205 of 574
9/20/11 at 10:58pm
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Originally Posted by jlanzy View Post

You wouldn't happen to have a extra room to rent out while you reviewing these pjs would you

Funny you mentioned that...

I was thinking about having a get together when the 1000ES is up.
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post #206 of 574
9/20/11 at 11:56pm
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Originally Posted by jlanzy View Post

I understand the enthusiasm for the 1000, but if I had the do-re-mi for it, I would really be putting it up against the SIM2 100 series, unless I had a pretty large screen, and I'm assuming that anyone in the price class would be putting it in a dedicated room with good light control.

Do you mean the new MICO 100 series, or something else?

I am very interested in the MICO 100 series, actually, because it should be very quiet and not lose significant brightness over time (and also be instant-on and have 120Hz 3D). But, I am extremely flicker and RBE sensitive, and have yet to spend any quality time with a MICO, so I don't know whether I'll still see a single-chip DLP rainbow effect with it or not.

Lack of RBE is something I really like about 3-chip machines, and one of the reasons the Sony and JVC models interest me.
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post #207 of 574
9/21/11 at 6:06am
Honestly I don't understand why Sony would put of a faulty CMS, my gawd didn't they know that the damn thing didn't work right to start with! Come Sony smarten up already!
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post #208 of 574
9/21/11 at 7:20am
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Originally Posted by JustMike View Post

Do you mean the new MICO 100 series, or something else?

I am very interested in the MICO 100 series, actually, because it should be very quiet and not lose significant brightness over time (and also be instant-on and have 120Hz 3D). But, I am extremely flicker and RBE sensitive, and have yet to spend any quality time with a MICO, so I don't know whether I'll still see a single-chip DLP rainbow effect with it or not.

Lack of RBE is something I really like about 3-chip machines, and one of the reasons the Sony and JVC models interest me.

Yes, I was referring to the new 140, 150, 160 models which are around the MRSP of the 1000. As millerwill though pointed out it is dlp and if you prefer lcos and have any sensitivity towards rbe then the 1000 definitely leads the pack.
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post #209 of 574
9/21/11 at 11:11am
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Honestly I don't understand why Sony would put of a faulty CMS, my gawd didn't they know that the damn thing didn't work right to start with! Come Sony smarten up already!

There are several companies out there that have had issues with the CMS. Not sure where the break down is. You would assume that someone says lets get our calibrators in here and have him or her calibrate the machine with the CMS. Either it works or it doesnt
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post #210 of 574
9/21/11 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by Daniel Hutnicki View Post


There are several companies out there that have had issues with the CMS. Not sure where the break down is. You would assume that someone says lets get our calibrators in here and have him or her calibrate the machine with the CMS. Either it works or it doesnt

Is there any word how well the 95's CMS function works?
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