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post #31 of 226
I've seen the first two shows...I like it. Will watch it some more.
post #32 of 226
+1 for me, there are a lot of lawyer dramas, but few if any about corporate lawyers. hard to make what they do interesting but each episode has been so far. plus what a lifestyle...
post #33 of 226
I really wish they'd try to be original and shove all the unnecessary cliches. That conversation over the food tasting between young guy and paralegal about their childhoods had me on the verge of puking.
post #34 of 226
paralegals i've worked with do not look like THAT
post #35 of 226
is louis the most awesome, despicable character on TV?? "can't have any water, we don't have any" lol... also... hacker girl is hot, i hope she comes back
post #36 of 226
I too find myself wondering about legality... but I wonder how much hinges on actually representing himself as a lawyer? I grant you that IF he claims to be a lawyer, then that's a problem.

But... you or I have the legal right to represent ourselves... and we also can sign "power of attorney" over to others in some cases giving someone else the legal right to make commitments for us... so I see no reason why you or I couldn't represent someone else in court IF they signed that over to us.

So... like citizen's arrests are legal BUT impersonating a police officer is not... I think this show means to be walking the gray area.

That said... the kid has done a lot of other definitely illegal things... like drug trafficking, drug use, taking exams for other people, etc... that once uncovered would cause a world of problems... so I can't imagine a competent lawyer would knowingly take someone into the firm like this in real life.
post #37 of 226
Thread Starter 
Repeat several times "Suits is just a summer show. There is no relationship with reality." ;-)

But seriously, I find it a fun, lightweight show perfect for summer viewing. I thought the latest installment was the best of the bunch so far, hope they keep up that energy.
post #38 of 226
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Originally Posted by nikeykid View Post

is louis the most awesome, despicable character on TV?? "can't have any water, we don't have any" lol... also... hacker girl is hot, i hope she comes back

I like what they did with him this week, but still think they could flesh the character out a little better than Harvey's antagonist.
post #39 of 226
I think this show is hitting its stride and the cast is meshing well. While I still like Burn Notice I'm starting to look forward to Suits more.
post #40 of 226
Just watched the last two episodes having not seen any of the previous ones, and actually I was impressed. I think the casting is quite good, and the writing is good enough. Like others here I had major doubts about the whole 'non-lawyer practicing law' thing, but if you suspend disbelief, it's a fun hour.
post #41 of 226
As I understand it he's a lawyer as in he's passed the bar but not a Harvard lawyer as in the snooty requirement for all lawyers at the firm. Could be mistaken.
post #42 of 226
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As I understand it he's a lawyer as in he's passed the bar but not a Harvard lawyer as in the snooty requirement for all lawyers at the firm. Could be mistaken.

It's not clear, though, if he was eligible to take the bar... and that could be the rub.
post #43 of 226
i think Mike now qualifies to take the bar under Law Office Study/Clerkship but that would require him to admit that he hasn't passed.
post #44 of 226
He's never been to law school, so he fails that requirement as well. Mike passed the bar just by studying, and he's aced the LSAT, which determines admission to law school. But he's never completed a single credit's worth of law school at any institution.

It's probably not that hard to pass the bar without a law school education, given that most law schools don't teach half of what's actually on the bar anyway, and what's on it depends on where you're taking it. And that's why almost all jurisdictions require that you have a J.D. to sit for the exam in the first place.

Mike could legitimately be barred on "reading the law" without law school in CA, VT, VA, and WA. CA does not have reciprocity. VA does. Not sure about the other two, but he'd need five years of practice in those states before he could exercise reciprocity any way and be legally admitted in NY. And his clerkship/apprentice would likely need to be in those states as well.

In other words, in the life of this show, there is no way that Mike becomes legitimately barred in NY short of actually going to law school. And this ignores the fact that even though Mike "passed" the exam already, he'd never be admitted to the NY Bar because he would fail the Character and Fitness examination. So, many of the things that Mike has done thus far is unlicensed practice and Harvey would almost surely be disbarred for allowing it. Mike himself would be liable for all kinds of fraud.
post #45 of 226
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Originally Posted by URFloorMatt View Post

He's never been to law school, so he fails that requirement as well. Mike passed the bar just by studying, and he's aced the LSAT, which determines admission to law school. But he's never completed a single credit's worth of law school at any institution.

It's probably not that hard to pass the bar without a law school education, given that most law schools don't teach half of what's actually on the bar anyway, and what's on it depends on where you're taking it. And that's why almost all jurisdictions require that you have a J.D. to sit for the exam in the first place.

Mike could legitimately be barred on "reading the law" without law school in CA, VT, VA, and WA. CA does not have reciprocity. VA does. Not sure about the other two, but he'd need five years of practice in those states before he could exercise reciprocity any way and be legally admitted in NY. And his clerkship/apprentice would likely need to be in those states as well.

In other words, in the life of this show, there is no way that Mike becomes legitimately barred in NY short of actually going to law school. And this ignores the fact that even though Mike "passed" the exam already, he'd never be admitted to the NY Bar because he would fail the Character and Fitness examination. So, many of the things that Mike has done thus far is unlicensed practice and Harvey would almost surely be disbarred for allowing it. Mike himself would be liable for all kinds of fraud.

Well I guess we now know how the series finale is going to go.
post #46 of 226
For a guy that's dressed to the nines, Harvey's tie was way too short tonite. And his hair seemed a couple of shades darker. Probably just me cuz the promos seemed about the same color. Good episode.
post #47 of 226
I thought last nights episode was probably the best so far. For those that like Louis(Lewis), I thought his manipulation and win was great. I loved how he said he no longer wanted Mike after the victory, so he farmed him out.

Matt,
I understand where you are coming from. I think this is a problem for a lot of people that watch programming that they have a lot of knowledge of the subject. Having spent six years in the Marines, a show like Falling Skys seems stupid on the military angle. Burn Notice puts a glamorous look on Miami, but living here I know that isn't close to reality. And so it goes.
post #48 of 226
I thought last night episode was very solid. It was nice to see Louis get the upper-hand for once. You can not have a good bad guy if he looses all the time.
post #49 of 226
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I thought last night episode was very solid. It was nice to see Louis get the upper-hand for once. You can not have a good bad guy if he looses all the time.

Agreed. If Louis loses all the time, how would he be bad-a$$ and everyone in the office scared of him?

It was smart to have him get the underhanded win... and yet, at the same time... the client still won since she got what she wanted... It's just Harvey and Mike that lost.

I also kind of like the choice Mike made in his romantic circle. Initially I liked him and Rachel... but once he had the relationship with his friend's ex... I didn't think Mike was a character that would juggle two women like that... so I like that he made a choice.

Next week we get to see if he stays with that choice.

I didn't like Rachel's reaction, though... Mike was right that she rebuked him quite sternly initially... and then she is changing her mind and he has started trying to move on... so IF he chooses to curb his own feelings and go with his other girlfriend who was there and was interested when he was... then Rachel hadn't previously been written as a character that would snap so angrily like that at a situation essentially born out of her own earlier decision.
post #50 of 226
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Agreed. If Louis loses all the time, how would he be bad-a$$ and everyone in the office scared of him?

It was smart to have him get the underhanded win... and yet, at the same time... the client still won since she got what she wanted... It's just Harvey and Mike that lost.

I also kind of like the choice Mike made in his romantic circle. Initially I liked him and Rachel... but once he had the relationship with his friend's ex... I didn't think Mike was a character that would juggle two women like that... so I like that he made a choice.

Next week we get to see if he stays with that choice.

I didn't like Rachel's reaction, though... Mike was right that she rebuked him quite sternly initially... and then she is changing her mind and he has started trying to move on... so IF he chooses to curb his own feelings and go with his other girlfriend who was there and was interested when he was... then Rachel hadn't previously been written as a character that would snap so angrily like that at a situation essentially born out of her own earlier decision.

That & the fact the Blonde is Way better looking & sexier by a long shot than Rachel & it's not very wise to have Rachel as a girl friend any way . He does have a cover that he needs to protect .
post #51 of 226
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I thought last night episode was very solid. It was nice to see Louis get the upper-hand for once. You can not have a good bad guy if he looses all the time.

Poor Hamilton Burger. I believe he lost all but one of his cases to Perry Mason.
post #52 of 226
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I didn't like Rachel's reaction, though... Mike was right that she rebuked him quite sternly initially... and then she is changing her mind and he has started trying to move on... so IF he chooses to curb his own feelings and go with his other girlfriend who was there and was interested when he was... then Rachel hadn't previously been written as a character that would snap so angrily like that at a situation essentially born out of her own earlier decision.

Wait, a woman changing her mind. Stop the presses!
post #53 of 226
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Wait, a woman changing her mind. Stop the presses!

I probably should have clarified... It wasn't unrealistic... but it sure seemed out of character for Rachel.

Had they shown her to be more devious or vindictive previously, then I would have been fine... but she had previously been nothing but level-headed and above this sort of reaction.
post #54 of 226
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I probably should have clarified... It wasn't unrealistic... but it sure seemed out of character for Rachel.

Had they shown her to be more devious or vindictive previously, then I would have been fine... but she had previously been nothing but level-headed and above this sort of reaction.

how many guys figure that out after they marry one of those types . level headed then turned into a vindictive witch soon after the honeymoon L O L
post #55 of 226
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I probably should have clarified... It wasn't unrealistic... but it sure seemed out of character for Rachel.

Had they shown her to be more devious or vindictive previously, then I would have been fine... but she had previously been nothing but level-headed and above this sort of reaction.
I could see it. She mentioned in an earlier episode that she didn't date guys from the office. She obviously decided to relax that rule especially after she saw Mike with the other girl and after he held back in the mock trial. Personally I thought Mike over reacted to start and escalated the conflict.
post #56 of 226
Mike made the right choice. Rachel just wanted her cake and eat it too. I liked her looks mainly for dark hair but the blond is OK also.

If this series doesn't get renewed, I hope someone pushes Louis out a tenth floor window on the last episode.
post #57 of 226
I liked last night's episode. There was a good use of the entire cast, and the guest star could be a great reoccurring character. It would be nice if the whole Mike not being a lawyer thing got out in the open so it would take away the hanging dagger over the show. They dynamic between the two leads is enough to carry the show. They do not really the gimmick anymore.

One other thing that I thing the show is missing is something that came up during the first season of White Collar. The cases need to require smarter solutions if your going to have Harvey perceived as the ultimate lawyer. It seems like some of these cases could have been solved by anybody. Mike has the excuse he is new, but Harvey really needs to do more than look cool in a suit.
post #58 of 226
OK, I want to like this summer series and I realize it's USA and we gotta have "Blue Sky" programming, but....The inane lines with Mike and the blond was right out of 6th grade. and staring in the mirror, with his purse...Puhleeze... Rachel the dark haired para-legal is smoking hot, but the diatribe about the kiss, come on, and ditch the dark nails. I could also do without the Boss, never liked her, annoying... Donna is great, very smart and hot too...Louis is WAY over the top, the Ballet ticket scene was funny. Rick Hoffman is sure pushing the envelope.....I watched, hope it gets better next summer...My 2 cents..
post #59 of 226
I agree the writers need to step it up a whole lot,the cast's personal dynamics between the actors is great , but the cases need more meat on their bones than what's been offered . Last nite case actually had the drama the show needs, If they can get the cases that have more intrigue,drama,darkness to them, then this show will take off & soar .The I'm Harvey I have nice hair ,I can smile & I dress smart there for I win , is gonna get old real quick . Harvey is the main plot driver in this series , so there is a need to give him alot more depth & realism.
post #60 of 226
I agree and I think that is probably where they will be headed for next year.
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