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post #151 of 185
"Wes Craven's New Nightmare" looks good- but not quite as nice as the other six.
Overall a very handsome set of discs. My highest recommendation is earned.
post #152 of 185
ANOES 2:

Fantastic transfer. Didn't see much "darkening," if at any. Grain is resolved and detailed. The SQ wasn't very good, though. I didn't really experience anything "new" when it came to the SQ. Usually with lossless tracks, I am able to hear new things and develop a better audial experience than ever before. Not with this.

PQ: 4/5
SQ: 3/5

ANOES 3:

The darkening has occurred. Yes, there is some "slight" crushing (not the crushing that comes from "sharpening"). You can easily get the information back by boosting your TV set. It even gets to the point of being slightly distracting at times. It's pretty uneven in scenes, so it "appears" that it was done deliberately. However, there is huge benefit to be found in this image. I could actually see Joey's arm-hair in one scene. Grain is decently resolved, and the image looks great in HD. SQ was much the same as ANOES 2...could have been remastered to be much better.

PQ: 3.75/5
SQ: 3/5

I'll continue reviewing these. Not sure if I would agree that it should receive a "highest" recommendation. They are clearly better than the subpar DVDs, though.
post #153 of 185
It's a good transfer i think. Better than DVD quality.
I love these films.
post #154 of 185
Really great set.
post #155 of 185
One thing that pisses me off is that they removed the old school flashing new line logo on 2 and 3.
post #156 of 185
Studio Logo's get no respect...
post #157 of 185
It's kind of a big deal to me. The logo was pretty much made for the nightmare movies being that it was the same color as the nightmare logo. Now, it's been replaced with the modern logo...just seems out of place. The old Warner logo is really awesome too...

Anyhow..JUST received my boxset. Will be watching ANOES 4 either tonight or tomorrow. Probably will go ahead and sit through 5 and 6 if I'm in such mood.
post #158 of 185
Because I always watch a movie for the production company's logo. Story, character, script, acting? Bah. Give me a good logo any day of the week over those trivial things!

post #159 of 185
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Originally Posted by QuiGonJosh View Post

Because I always watch a movie for the production company's logo. Story, character, script, acting? Bah. Give me a good logo any day of the week over those trivial things!


It's called revisionism. Removing something that added to the experience. Nightmare on Elm Street basically created New Line Cinema. This is all relevant to how George turned Star Wars to complete **** with his modern additions. Leave it as it was in the theaters, please. The original red and flashing New Line Cinema logo was one of the best logos ever and it really screamed, "You're about to watch an Elm Street movie, bitch." Now with the modern and "pristine" black/black logo, it just looks out of place. They didn't "have" to do this, and I think it deserves to be a negative check on the transfers IMO.

Regarding the transfer of A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: GREAT quality. I saw some darkening with Part 4, but not as much as I was expecting. Part 3 looked overly "crushed" in many scenes, and it seemed to be actually distracting. Part 4's transfer looks pretty damned good. What minor darkening occurred really added the polish to the film, and it's only in a select handful of scenes. There's probably a good chance that this is the closest ANOES 4 ever looked to the theatrical viewing, and it's definitely the best it's ever looked. ANOES 3's darkening (which was too much to the point of "crushing") was in copious to an already-dark film and seemed to have been applied almost everywhere. Also, the sound quality of ANOES 4 is actually noticeably better than the DVD, unlike the ANOES 3 transfer. I knew this right during the first diner scene when I could hear very clearly what was playing on the radio/jukebox. The DVD I didn't even notice it. With the ANOES 3 BD, I didn't really "hear" anything new with the dynamics or subtleties.

Much better than the ANOES 3 transfer.

VQ: 4/5
SQ: 4/5
post #160 of 185
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Originally Posted by Damnationdoormat View Post

As long as the actual film is uncut and unaltered, the studio fanfare could be comprised of a Barney sing-a-long. As for these BDs, I'm sticking with the first three, the rest, outside of New Nightmare (slightly), just aren't good enough films to justify the upgrade from the Elm Street DVD box set. I've spent enough on these.

They are not the unrated versions
post #161 of 185
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Originally Posted by FendersRule View Post

It's called revisionism. Removing something that added to the experience. Nightmare on Elm Street basically created New Line Cinema. This is all relevant to how George turned Star Wars to complete **** with his modern additions. Leave it as it was in the theaters, please. The original red and flashing New Line Cinema logo was one of the best logos ever and it really screamed, "You're about to watch an Elm Street movie, bitch." Now with the modern and "pristine" black/black logo, it just looks out of place. They didn't "have" to do this, and I think it deserves to be a negative check on the transfers IMO.

It's a fucking studio logo.
post #162 of 185
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Originally Posted by FendersRule View Post

It's called revisionism. Removing something that added to the experience. Nightmare on Elm Street basically created New Line Cinema. This is all relevant to how George turned Star Wars to complete **** with his modern additions. Leave it as it was in the theaters, please. The original red and flashing New Line Cinema logo was one of the best logos ever and it really screamed, "You're about to watch an Elm Street movie, bitch." Now with the modern and "pristine" black/black logo, it just looks out of place. They didn't "have" to do this, and I think it deserves to be a negative check on the transfers IMO.

Not.Sure.If.Serious.
post #163 of 185
I am actually astounded that WB keeps the brand of New Line Cinema alive, I thought they completely took them over in 2008 firing Bob Shaye. Shaye cried in the "Never Sleep Again" doc about how he got fired and they remade Freddy and how mean that was.

He was a good dude. He was right to hold his ground on The Hobbit, why does it need to be 2 films anyway? It was a light children's story right?

Anyway, My guess is that when they did new transfers of the the 6 Freddy sequels they simply put new logos in and didn't think anyone would care. Studio Logos are always casualties of time. I think it was cool that the BD of the Theatrical Cut of "Superman: The Movie" had the old school Warner logo, that was neat.
post #164 of 185
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Originally Posted by QuiGonJosh View Post


It's a ****ing studio logo.

That was MADE to match the elm street films in look, design, and color.

Are you just trying to be ignorant?
post #165 of 185
Logos are part of the history and feel of the film, imagine Raiders with the new Paramount logo.....
post #166 of 185
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

I am actually astounded that WB keeps the brand of New Line Cinema alive, I thought they completely took them over in 2008 firing Bob Shaye. Shaye cried in the "Never Sleep Again" doc about how he got fired and they remade Freddy and how mean that was.

He was a good dude. He was right to hold his ground on The Hobbit, why does it need to be 2 films anyway? It was a light children's story right?

Anyway, My guess is that when they did new transfers of the the 6 Freddy sequels they simply put new logos in and didn't think anyone would care. Studio Logos are always casualties of time. I think it was cool that the BD of the Theatrical Cut of "Superman: The Movie" had the old school Warner logo, that was neat.

Shaye is awesome. His wife is awesome too. She had a great cameo in part 1, and RULED in Detroit rock city. I loved seeing Mr. Shaye in all of the elm street films, too.

See people, there's history in these films; it had very supportive and energetic producers in which the elm street franchise gave new line their success. That trickles right down to the matching logo. Pay attention, you may learn something.
post #167 of 185
Word.
post #168 of 185
Ok... how many of the people freaking out over the logo actually watch the end-credits in their entirety?

IF you don't do that... then you really can't complain it seems to me.. because the credits are part of the movie too... and most arbitrarily decide the credits aren't important... so why assign more importance to the studio logo?
post #169 of 185
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Ok... how many of the people freaking out over the logo actually watch the end-credits in their entirety?

IF you don't do that... then you really can't complain it seems to me.. because the credits are part of the movie too... and most arbitrarily decide the credits aren't important... so why assign more importance to the studio logo?

Why not?
post #170 of 185
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Originally Posted by FendersRule View Post

That was MADE to match the elm street films in look, design, and color.

Are you just trying to be ignorant?

No, you're just being silly.

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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Logos are part of the history and feel of the film, imagine Raiders with the new Paramount logo.....

Imagine me...not giving a damn.
post #171 of 185
Part 5 looks as good as 4. The audio seems very sufficient as well.

So far, part 3 is the worst offender.
post #172 of 185
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Originally Posted by FendersRule View Post

Part 5 looks as good as 4. The audio seems very sufficient as well.

So far, part 3 is the worst offender.

Whats wrong with Part 3, it's gorgeous.
If there is a Color timing difference between it and the 1999 dvd, I'd say the BD is correct.
post #173 of 185
Part 3 BD is definitely better than the DVD.

But I'm just saying that it didn't benefit from the darkening like the others (4, 5, and probably 6) did. When you take an already somewhat dark image and darken it more, you get some crushing, especially on scenes that don't need it.

4/5 always had more of a "brighter" look to them, at least on DVD format. In theaters, who knows. The darkening kinda gives them a bit more "polish" and makes them look more professional. Part 3 just didn't need as much as what was applied and it seemed overkill some of the time.

The audio is easily the worst offender. Part 3 has a great soundtrack (like Part 4), and the audio just seemed to lack the dynamic nature of the other movies in the set. Part 4's soundtrack is pretty vivid and robust in comparison.

And the logo has been replaced. Even Part 4's logo has been replaced, but I don't care much about it. Reason being, it was the standard "New Line" logo of the 80s and was probably used for all of their movies at the time. What the naysayers in this thread still don't understand, is that the logo for 2 and 3 were made specifically for the Elm Street movies. DVDmike is correct in his analogy as well. The black and red flashing logo blended in with the black and red quote that begun part 3; it was part of the experience. It was probably on the reel that theaters received during the release. I'm not screaming "rape" or anything, but I'm saying that this is more than a "petty" or "useless" complaint. It was pointless and would have been better left alone, just like the level of the darkening that was applied to 3. To compare the logo to the end credits is a useless analogy.

Don't get me wrong. The transfer for Part 3 is great, but it's the worst offender by a small margin. I recommend this set, but I don't think it should receive the "highest" recommendations from anyone. If all the movies were like the ANOES 1 transfer, then yes. It receives a strong recommendation from me so far. Keep in mind I'm viewing these movies on a 106" setup sitting about 7 feet away. There's nothing I don't see...

Also, I've basically confirmed that the 2/3 disc is the same as the US disc. I played the US disc previously, and just inserted the 2/3 UK disc to re-evaluate based on the last post, and it asked me if I wanted to "resume" playback.

I had to turn Part 5 off about an hour in. Couldn't take it. I'll see if I can hit up Part 6 later.

Also, to the person who said that the discs are confusing and blank, are you serious? Look at the outer edge. They tell you what films are on that disc.
post #174 of 185
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Originally Posted by FendersRule View Post

And the logo has been replaced. Even part 4's logo has been replaced, but I don't care much about it. Reason being, it was a standard "New Line" logo of the 80s. What the naysayers in this thread still don't understand, is that the logo for 2 and 3 were made specifically for the Elm Street movies. DVDmike is correct in his analogy as well. I'm not screaming "rape" or anything, but I'm saying that this is more than a "petty" complaint. It was pointless and would have been better left alone, like the level of the darkening that was applied to 3. To compare the logo to the end credits is a useless analogy.

Indeed. Studio logo replacement might not be a deal breaker for me but it's definitely annoying. I really liked those old logos too, they were great at setting the tone. Credits don't matter too much since they're just plain text, but if they replaced the music during the credits or something, then that would be another unwelcome change. I usually listen to the credit music unless it's a song I hate. I always let "Dream Warriors" play, it's not too bad for hair metal.
post #175 of 185
I'll listen to everything and anything on the Dream Warriors soundtrack!



Without the animation, it doesn't do it quite the justice it needs.
post #176 of 185
Oh so Fenders your set finally showed up. If it looks worthy of a purchase on your new setup I'll go for it.

I might have to import this one.
post #177 of 185
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Originally Posted by FendersRule View Post

Shaye is awesome. His wife is awesome too. She had a great cameo in part 1, and RULED in Detroit rock city.

Lin is Bob's sister, not his wife.
post #178 of 185
Haha!

Anyways. Splicing in new logos is ****ed up. Those logos, for me, is a big part of the first and second film.
post #179 of 185
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Originally Posted by The Dark Shape View Post


Lin is Bob's sister, not his wife.

Nice catch.
post #180 of 185
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Originally Posted by Spiritual_Chaos View Post

Haha!

Anyways. Splicing in new logos is ****ed up. Those logos, for me, is a big part of the first and second film.

And third. They left the logo alone in the first movie. Why did they have to do this to the rest.
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