Originally Posted by skyguy3d
Also I found out the new 4.01.30 firmware changed it's frame-packing detection routine so now it bypasses the 3d warning message and goes directly into 3d now without having to press the ok confirmation button.
It's this quote that makes your thoughts butmuncher about the edid being bugged somehow and making people get there 3d modes not set properly. My guess is with the inf showing a reserved extension block has to do with with LG updating their EDID for compatibility with blu-ray players and this has some negative effects on how it is now read through the PS3 and how it could affect the PC HDMI output.
Still, someone with better knowledge of the EDID would be helpful.
I'm going to leave it another week and then phone lg and if i'm not happy i'm going to escalate this further and ask for a real lg technition to visit, i'll show him the options not working correctly then take my pc and the engineer a few streets away to a friends with a sammy and show him the same pc with working checkerboard and interleaved as sammy has 30hz interleaved 3d
, beyond that there's nothing that can be done possibly.
Obviously this is assuming when i speak to lg again they deny they have a issue, there can't be anymore solid proof than a side by side test with a sammy 3d.
This idea has been playing on my mind recently.
1 thing i need reminding of though, skyhuy3d you and your fellow ntsc ( non european tv's ) do'nt have the colour ghosting in interleaved that you do in checkerboard???
if that is correct then it's only european models which have the same model name as uk lg 3dtv's that have the same colour ghosting in interleaved and checkerboard and for only these tv's the edid fix works to remove colour ghosting for interleaved only.
Now if uk models have interleaved and checkerboard colourghosting and ntsc or models like the 5600 ( which is'nt a uk model ) have clear ghosting in interleaved which can be fixed via isf and colourghosting in checkerboard then this means something, i have'nt a clue what but i'm sure there are clues in our words and ideas.
Have the coulorbug for both 3d options is crazy, even crazier for uk tv's is the fact that we have the same colour ghosting in interleaved as we do for checkerboard with a stock edid.
Now if using interleaved the tv has no idea we are even in 3d mode as we do'nt use a 3d scaling option and in this native 3d mode uk users have a colourbug that is fixed with the edid mod, this possibly relates to dodgy edid timings/extensionbloc as without that extension block uk users now have working interleaved with no colourbug.
Now this is what gets me.
2 3d options have same colourbug, to cure 1 colourbug i use a modded edid but this then deletes all the info for the edids 3d which my guesing allso holds the info for checkerboard, over under ect.
Small quote showing some of the things that are deleted with a deleted extension bloc.
3D structures supported.. Top-and-bottom, Side-by-side w. horizontal sub-sampling
3D formats supported..... Mandatory formats plus some primary VICs
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
1280 x 720p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 30Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001
Surely this means lg either has the wrong edid data for interleaved and checkerboard, the 2 3d options have the exact same bug.
All the other 3d options work even with a deleted bloc, the tv switches into it's 3d mode and does the correct scaling for whatever 3d it's using.
Well that's what i've been thinking but i may be miles from the truth.
Allso if a sammy can play checkerboard and we can't even with a sammy edid overide then that rules out us being able to modify a edid to work with the correct timings as the sammy edid would of had the correct timings ect ????
I think this screams for a lg 3d calibration that only lg can do.
Untill we can get them to test with a pc i do'nt think we will get anywhere, they obviously must of tested all the 3d options before releasing the 3dtv's, or did they just think, not perfect but good enough lets roll out these faulty 3dtv's!