3D POP out Question - Page 5

Ok, I have 22 right now, I'll be getting a few more in the next week too (Brave, Amazing Spiderman for sure.) I went ahead and added a brief review of each, skip past it, read it if you like for what's it's worth.

These are all viewed on a passive LG 65" on Blu ray

Avatar
Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter
I, Robot
Titanic
Prometheus
Marvel Avengers
Imax Under the Sea
3D Aquarium
IMAX Space Station
IMAX Hubble
Grand Canyon Adventure
Cave of Forgotten Dreams
Dinosaures Alive!
Dinosaures Giants of the Patagonia
How to Train Your Dragon
Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs
The Polar Express
Puss in Boots
Tron Legacy
Hugo
Clash of the Titans
Wrath of the Titans
Edited by tomtastic - 11/8/12 at 4:57pm

Some good movies but you're right, not much pop out in those at all and I've seen a lot of them. "Journey to the Center of the Earth" has some good stuff and if I remember correctly "Final Destination 5" did as well.

If you can't see pop out in IMAX Space Station then there's a problem somewhere. At the end the astronauts float fruit at the camera man and it comes out of the screen and into the room!

In one of those Dinosaurs movies one of the flying lizards comes out of the screen and everyone ducks. There are many pop out scenes in Monsters vs. Aliens and the new Madagascar movie.

If you saw Avatar in theatres there were plenty of scenes that had pop out. Unfortunately, I could only experience them on my sony Bravia LED. The ST50 did not have similar effects besides the Window depth. There is plenty of Pop out in this film and if you dont see it pretty much confirm my experiences with Panasonic 3d as simply not being that great.

The two scenes that come to mind are one: when Jake is running thorugh the woods and stops on a branch and the white woodspirits land on his hands and float all around him. These things were floating all around the theatre, right between the screen and the seat. Another scene was towards the end when the humans try attack the tree of souls. One of the gunships launches gas grenades, one of which flies center screen right at the viewer. This grenade almost hit me in the face when i was in the theatre. Again, could be the technology on the Panasonic is just not as good. There are some scenes that have nice depth separation on this tv. But its not the full 3d effect I'm used to.

Yes, but if you read the message I was replying to, this is not what I challenged.

I challenge you to show me on a magazine ad that the TV is 3D without the image crossing the borders of the TV frame.

It is impossible. Unless one day we start receiving 3D magazines...

There are 3D images you can make and then just set them inside the printed 3D screen, that would probably work. Or just make a pop out with paper/cardboard like a pop out book. Not sure what the point would be, I forgot the original question now, maybe that magazines don't display 3D the way 3D TVs do? Obviously not.

Back to missed pop outs in the ones above. I'd have to review those specific examples, since I don't remember them the way the cod fish popped out I just listed no pop out. I do remember the fruit flying at the screen in Space Station, at the time I don't remember it popping out though. I just ordered a new 3D Blu ray player so I'm going to wait until I get it in and hooked up before I re watch them. I've been using a 3rd gen PS3.

Best pop out I have seen is the potato Cod!!! Watched IMAX under the sea last night for the first time and had to pause it. I just looked at that fish for 15 minutes. Simply amazing!! It didn't even look like it was connected to the TV. Wish I could see more movies like that.

hey, whats the potato cod..pop outs seems much harder to do, everything has some depth but i would like to see more pop out. i heard a turtle tales blows away hollywood when it comes to pop out.

Madagascar and Lion King were the best movies my g/f and I watched. Plenty of pop-out scences and were had a few, "whoa, cool" moments.

Looking forward to a decent LIVE action movie with pop-out.

Top Girl 3D - LG's demo pop song - you must watch. I have never seen a lot of popouts like this. Within 5 minutes you will find more than 20 popouts that too so beautiful.

Where would this be found?

I think i saw it you need a LG smart tv then get 3d world app should be on that. Its a free app.

Does LG offer any 3D apps on their 3D blu-ray players?

Thanks. I have the TV but I took it off my network because I'm using a bunch of other things on it. I'll just have to get a 16 outlet switch because the 8 is full.

Don't worry I'll soon make it available....I will give you the link so that you can download it..

Thank you!

Hello,

I find that the question of pop-out or seeing the screen as a window, are both effects mostly descriped by people with the wrong 3D-settings or inexperienced users. I''ve mainly used 3D for games using Nvidia 3D Vision, but the point is that when you get used to it, these effects are rendered senseless. When i watch 3D-content on my screen there is no screen for the things to "pop-out" of, i literally have to poke with my hand to find where in the picture the screen is.

So in short, when you set your 3D-settings correctly, "There is no screen". Maybe this only works for first person video games though, which is where i have mostly used 3D.

Regards

- Necuno

just a thought because i haven't seen much popout in the three 3D movies i have so far, avatar, madagascar 3, and dispicable me.

might alcohol consumption during viewing be effecting me and those not seeing popout? i do enjoy a few pops while watching a film.

Yes, you did. The intro credits show some water droplets and one large one in particular that comes right out of the screen and into the middle of the room.

Doberman Pinscher's face clearly comes out of the screen at one point during the movie.

The Final Destination movies have some good popout, and the Legend of the Guardians has some popout as well and is a great film to watch in 3D.

The IMAX movie "Emergency 3D" has notable popout, like a guy on a fire ladder popping way out of the screen. Has a lots of good strong 3D action scenes such as troops jumping out of huge transport jets, helicopters landing in water, dramatic and emotional 3d footage from the earthquake in Haiti. Some of it may be too strong 3D, such as half of the inside of a hospital tent popping out, some scenes were 2d or too distant to show depth, but it was one of the more impressive 3D IMAX films I've seen.

The bigger the screen, the better the 3D pop out in my opinion: IMAX is king.

Guys, it's an illusion. The geometry is well defined in the math on 3D stereoscopic imagery. The distance you can get in front of your screen frame is a function of both the size of the screen and the distance you view the screen. The farther away you view a given size screen the more distance your "popout" object will appear. It can never appear behind you and never outside the frustum of the boundaries of the pyramid sides by the borders of the screen and the apex of the pyramid of your viewing point between your eyes. However, when this extreme parallax happens your vision will be crossed and fixed on that object and you will not be able to focus on the objects in the background at the same time. If the extreme popout remains on the screen for any length of time, you may begin to notice stuff in the background but your crossed eyes vision will make those objects doubled or blurred. If you try to ignore the popped image and focus on the background the popped image will be doubled. In other words, you can't have it both ways. There is an imaginary distance in front of the screen and behind the screen that most people will be able to comfortably handle for long scenes. This is about 25-30% of the viewing distance, called the zone of comfort. Here most people's brains will be able to converge the 3D stereo over the entire screen area.

The intro to coroline had good pop out for a few seconds. But go to you tube and watch most videos by 3dn3d. One with the chain saw and the drill comes out to your nose damn near. By far best pop out I've seen. I'm rockin a LG passive set.

If you're not seeing much popout in MADAGASCAR 3, then it's time to keep those beers in the refrigerator!

It might also depend on how you define "pop-out". Because nearly every 3D film has some degree of negative parallax in almost every single shot. Unless you're referring specifically to the "things jumping out at you" thing.

yea i showed my friend that same chainsaw video. he kept complaining that he bought a 3dtv and nothing pops outta the screen. i tried explaining to him that many movies are not trying to pop out, but he kept saying that it was the tv. showed him that chainsaw video and he shut up.

You are right not many movies use pop out. Most think it's gimmicky and cheesey. But I love it haha. Like Promethius how bad ass would it of been if that alien at the ends little mouth came right out infront of you.

I am an expert on this pop out thing and I can tell you that there was an active decision by the blu-ray 3D standards group to move towards less pop out and more depth because pop out effects can cause headaches in some people if done to long or not done right. This is why imax 3D movies with those huge active shutter glasses were the best and usually stayed to under 45 minutes originally - at least the 3D ones.

Many many of these 3D titles were not shot in 3D and were converted and I woudn't give a dollar to see them as they can't do 3D correctly because the information is not there from the second lens recording at a different angle.

I have talked to pro guys and been on the pro news groups and directors are encouraged to stay away from those effects which I think is ridiculous because it's one of the magical things that people bought a 3D tv for to be able to reach out for things like the shows at epcot or disney (but remember these shows are usually under 10 minutes.. terminator 2 3D ect....

That being said without a doubt the two biggest "pop out effect" blu-rays discs are #1 - Imax Under the Sea and #2 Journey To the Center of the Earth.. it all goes down hill after that with most of these cgi generated movies being very skimpy with bringing 3D out of the screen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO7P8SOf3dE&hd=1

Check that out on your blu-ray enabled 3d projector or TV or even with cheapo red / cyan comic book 3d glasses

The best 3D blu-ray movies and films should POP and come out of the screen as well as go in. Unfortunately most of the current generation of flat screen lcd, led, and plasmas 3D TVs just don't do 3D very well to begin with and on top of that many blu-ray 3D titles are just converted 2D which looks lame. This shows off what proper full HD 3D should look like, with layers of depth BEHIND the screen, then the awesome POP OUT of the screen effects that everyone loves but most 3D TVs. blu-rays, and movies lack because of how the parallax optics were set. Viewed properly on a 3D tv with active shutter glasses (best choice) passive (2nd best) Evo 3D or Evo V (3rd best) or even colored red /cyan (4th best way to view) - this small clip should be fairly mind blowing and the straw and my cell phone should come out far from your screen while the people behind me should be behind the 'md level' of your screen.

Now, this is youtube mind you but, this was originally shot in 4K dual lens / dual chip systems. It is a combination of manufacturers so I am not going to go into full spec talk but the focus should be that THIS will show off what 3D should look like, with layers of depth BEHIND the screen, then the awesome POP OUT of the screen effects that everyone loves but most 3D TVs. blu-rays, and movies lack because of how the parallax optics were set. Viewed properly on a 3D tv with active shutter glasses - this small clip should be fairly mind blowing and the straw and my cell phone should come out several feet from your screen while the people behind me should be several feet behind. Mind you this is going to lose a lot from youtube compression and will most likely be down converted to 30p.. which is close enough to 24p so I am not going to bother uploading that one. I can do 24p 30p 48p ad 60p full 4K resolution or dual 2k.

Michael- You are funny!

I'm insane I admit it so I'm going to take that as a compliment even though I know you are being sarcastic.