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post #241 of 424
5/6/12 at 11:04pm
This is totally awesome. What did you use for the blue uplighting? I'm shopping around to do my bulkhead
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post #242 of 424
5/7/12 at 12:16am
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Originally Posted by Elill View Post

I reckon there is about 1 hours work per frame. Regardless of size.

1. Cut the timber
2. Glue/clamp (screw, clamps, nails whatever)
3. Paint? going to paint them black? I would. Get yourself a boat load of spray cans
4. Do acoustic insert to size
5. Cover in fabric
6. Attach wall hanging method

x by how many frames?

Greg, sit back and see how long it takes him to get a mild case of wonthangprojectoritis

Hi Peter,

There's 60 wall panels, not counting extra where I need to split them for doors, plus the column covers. I reckon I'll be lucky to achieve 1 hour each ! Probably going to be close to 80-100 hours all up.

I'm definitely going to paint the frames, but it won't be spray as I'd rather brush. Already have a large can of flat black.

Cheers,
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post #243 of 424
5/7/12 at 12:17am
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This is totally awesome. What did you use for the blue uplighting? I'm shopping around to do my bulkhead

Hi Damien,

I bought blue LED rope light from a local lighting store. Cost me about $180 for a 16.5m length.

Cheers,
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post #244 of 424
5/7/12 at 12:50am
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Hi Damien,

I bought blue LED rope light from a local lighting store. Cost me about $180 for a 16.5m length.

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Damn, thats cheap. I looked at LED striplights & they were about $1000 for approx 20m. Are ropes cheaper or do you have a really cheap shop local?
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post #245 of 424
5/7/12 at 1:08am
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Damn, thats cheap. I looked at LED striplights & they were about $1000 for approx 20m. Are ropes cheaper or do you have a really cheap shop local?

I know the striplights you're referring to as we have them as undercupboard lights in the kitchen and your price for those is good. The ropelights are completely different with a much larger plastic cover and wider spacing for the LEDs.

This is not what I bought but it was the first to pop up in google ...

blue rope light

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post #246 of 424
5/7/12 at 6:16am
What sort of racks/rails are those. I am looking for something similar and the middle Atlantic kit is quite expensive here in Australia compared to the US
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post #247 of 424
5/7/12 at 8:10pm
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Originally Posted by dsiroky View Post

What sort of racks/rails are those. I am looking for something similar and the middle Atlantic kit is quite expensive here in Australia compared to the US

I'm lucky enough to have access to an aluminium fabrication shop through work, and my racks were custom made to my own design by our factory foreman. Sorry I can't be of help on this one. I suggest you try Google which throws up plenty of alternatives to MA.

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post #248 of 424
5/7/12 at 9:11pm
Ebay....is a big help also. Ellil has got some great bargains and I would love to have his rack. So its just a matter of finding them at the right time is all. Or have foreman who can custom build you one. LOL
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post #249 of 424
5/8/12 at 1:36am
http://www.sanus.com.au/racks.php and http://www.sanus.com/world/en/produc...s/av-component
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post #250 of 424
5/8/12 at 2:34am
Not sure of the pricing for that company but I dont think they are going to be cheap.
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post #251 of 424
5/8/12 at 3:46am
I looked at them about 18 months ago and I'm pretty sure they were cheaper than Middle Atlantic. I can't remember though. I thought next time I do a theatre I'll look at the Sanus racks.
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post #252 of 424
5/9/12 at 8:17pm
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This one popped up near the top on Google ...

Racks

I think the IT industry may be cheaper than the AV industry.

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post #253 of 424
5/9/12 at 8:42pm
^ I've heard nothing but bad things about them. I got some blanking panels from them, but the racks have a poor reputation.

Decent racks are expensive, Argent IMO make the best in Australia. The ones Altronics sell are ok too (thats what I have).
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post #254 of 424
5/9/12 at 8:51pm
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Hi Peter,

I've gotta ask ... what makes a bad rack ? It's just sheet metal with a few holes !

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post #255 of 424
5/9/12 at 9:07pm
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Hi Peter,

I've gotta ask ... what makes a bad rack ? It's just sheet metal with a few holes !

Cheers,

Actually he's spot on with that one Peter. My rack came from them and although the one I have now is ok, it took 3 (full) replacements over the course of almost a month to get there... They were consistently wrecked on delivery with serious dents, multiple scratches, dimpled glass etc etc.

The actual final product is fine but it seems they have major freight and / or quality control issues. You can see what I'm talking about over on my 'Yet Another Down Under' thread.
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post #256 of 424
5/9/12 at 9:20pm
Thickness of the steel used and the quality of the fabrication

I know of ~5 people who have ordered racks from that site and they all turned up damaged - crap packaging and poor fabrication (rough edges, sides not lining up perfectly etc).

Good blanking plates though
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post #257 of 424
5/10/12 at 1:21am
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Thickness of the steel used and the quality of the fabrication

I know of ~5 people who have ordered racks from that site and they all turned up damaged - crap packaging and poor fabrication (rough edges, sides not lining up perfectly etc).

Good blanking plates though

Of course they're good blanking plates.... You got them for free from me. . As someone who has been into the shop itself, I can understand why people have problems. Lots of dented racks on display in the showroom. Obviously the majority of their custom comes from the IT industry who lock them away out of sight and do t care much for aesthetics.
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post #258 of 424
5/10/12 at 1:46am
The final unit I have I am very happy with - it looks good and is extremely solid. As noted previously though, the ones I had to return were shocking especially considering the price. I think the comment regarding having them stashed away for IT use is likely correct but I doubt anyone would accept the first couple I received. They were fully wrecked.

On the other hand, the company who ordered mine (it was a contra deal on a website hence why I didnt get it direct) has used a lot of them in high-end installs - up to $250k and were disappointed as they hadnt had such problems previously.

I suspect they had a bad production / damaged in transit batch and kust tried to fob them off. Certainly not great P.R. Thats for sure. Even though my gear is ok now, I wouldnt recommend them, ever.
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post #259 of 424
5/10/12 at 2:26am
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I think the IT industry may be cheaper than the AV industry.

Cheers,

You're right about that Peter, but an "IT" rack might not sound as good as an "AV" one
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post #260 of 424
5/10/12 at 2:45am
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You're right about that Peter, but an "IT" rack might not sound as good as an "AV" one

True, you can probably get cable lifts and reference cable ties that will deliver harmonic textures with a sonic signature that simply cant be found in your garden variety IT racks
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post #261 of 424
5/10/12 at 6:23am
Found this thread tonight, and subscribed to it to grab some ideas for my HT room mk2, which will happen after we sell up here, and move elsewhere.
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post #262 of 424
5/10/12 at 8:28pm
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My racks are fitted out with shelves only, but for the EQs and amps I've bought some rack rail which bolts to my rack uprights. I got them from this mob ...

Rack rail

Ordinary web site, but the stuff they supplied seems very good. I didn't investigate their complete racks, but maybe it's another option.

Cheers,
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post #263 of 424
5/10/12 at 8:30pm
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True, you can probably get cable lifts and reference cable ties that will deliver harmonic textures with a sonic signature that simply cant be found in your garden variety IT racks

LOL
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post #264 of 424
5/10/12 at 8:32pm
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Originally Posted by bpratt2 View Post

Found this thread tonight, and subscribed to it to grab some ideas for my HT room mk2, which will happen after we sell up here, and move elsewhere.

Welcome !

Where is elsewhere ?

Ya hear that Greg ... another subscriber !

Cheers,
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post #265 of 424
5/10/12 at 9:50pm
Buccan/Logan Village, just south of Brisbane.

Looking to downsize from 20 acres, down to 1 acre over Jimboomba way.

Just search for bpratt on dtvforum.
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post #266 of 424
5/11/12 at 5:03am
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Welcome !

Where is elsewhere ?

Ya hear that Greg ... another subscriber !

Cheers,

Yes Peter,
I see. Another subscriber. To be honest, I'm trying to fly under the radar right now with my woeful lack of progress. Pretty soon I'm gonna be building dog houses
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post #267 of 424
5/11/12 at 5:10am
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Pretty soon I'm gonna be building dog houses

Oih!

Actually, if things go to plan I can recommence the build later this year....got to buy a new suit for work....more unnecessary spend, but otherwise I reckon we might just be back on
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post #268 of 424
5/11/12 at 5:42am
Ya for progress. I am still going to have the snail pace progress so I will be for you all .
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post #269 of 424
5/12/12 at 3:23am
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Oih!

Actually, if things go to plan I can recommence the build later this year....got to buy a new suit for work....more unnecessary spend, but otherwise I reckon we might just be back on

99 bucks for a new bag o' fruit at Lowes. Personally I love the shiny ones but at that price you can look great and have enough to recommence building in your HT.
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post #270 of 424
5/12/12 at 8:06pm
http://www.rackworld.com.au/racks-10...op-racks-1038/, I use the 10RU and 12 RU in 540 x 600mm.

I use these for demo purposes for shows around Australia. My current 12-RU rack has been shipped to/from Melbourne/Brisbane/Sydney a few times, still going strong! Welded frames make the difference here... Good people as well.
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