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post #2251 of 2539
Quote:
Originally Posted by maciekmiszkiel View Post

What kind of problems did you come across with hx820 ? I am debating if I should get one. Tigerdirect still sells them but there is no return on those. If I see some bleeding or ghosting like others did I'll be on my own dealing with Sony. Going back to possible issues with it how well does Sony handle those ?

A bad panel. HX820 is a great set.
post #2252 of 2539
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Originally Posted by pactel View Post

Welcome to the HX850 exchange club. I am also awaiting an exchange.
You didn't say - do you have the 46" or 55" HX820?
Do you mind saying what the terms of your exchange were? Straight across?
I was asked to pay $300 to "upgrade" my 3 mo. old broken 55HX820.

I haven't any real info on the HX850 other than what's on the Sony site.
The specs look identical to the HX820, except for the bump of Motion Flow from 480 to 960, which in the real world probably makes no difference, and a slightly different stand. Along with some silly wireless router bypass "So your friends can throw images and video from their smartphones to your TV without logging onto your wireless network." That would be a fun feature to demo in a store.

46, and it was a straight up trade. My panel is going bad. A week ago i had 1 dead pixel, then 2 and about 24 hrs ago a third went. They don't have any hx820s left and they said they don't have anymore panels so a repair wasn't an option. Should be about 1-2 weeks before i get it.

As far as i can tell so far, it's a better refresh rate tech and better 3d, as least according to the specs listed on Sony's site. Hopefully the internet browser got an overhaul because I'd love to use it. I can't imagine Sony would let it's flagship model for 2012 be anything but awesome. The only review i've seen (was in this thread a few pages back) was pretty positive, but it was from a rather unknown site.

From what I've heard, i have high hopes. The HX820 was/is a spectacular set and i would of been happy with a repair.

As far as your deal with Sony, that sounds weird. Was that the only option they gave you?
post #2253 of 2539
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Originally Posted by vincevega44 View Post

Obviously cnet, is not the most accurate, but the hx750 to them was not much better than the nx720. Actually the opposite.

Yeah i was very surprised by this, however it's not the same case as the hx820/hx720 which shared many of the same things except for the gorilla glass. The hx850 is better overall in terms of the spec charts (over the hx750). I will post some pictures once i get mine but i assume by then there should be a solid review.
post #2254 of 2539
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Originally Posted by Gregck View Post

46, and it was a straight up trade.
...snip
As far as your deal with Sony, that sounds weird. Was that the only option they gave you?

No - it was that or a refurbished 55HX820. You can see my story in this forum a few pages back.

I'll try tweeting @sonylistens and see if I can talk them out of the $300 charge, my set has been dead as a doornail since the end of February.
post #2255 of 2539
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

Jamtuff: Would be great it you could post a few snaps of the half screen scenario you described while installing for your sister when you install on your HX800. Just to see the comparison.

While intriguing, I still have to say I continue to be very happy with my 55-HX820 panel. Nonetheless, would like to see what this glass can do for your Hx800.

I will buddy, I am pulling hairs here stuck on major engineering projects like left to right. But soon as I have time I will go back and snap some fotos. I tried the glass on an old 37" 2007 Viewsonic lcd and man oh man. Yea this ish realy works. Im rarely impressed by new stuff but I'll say the new HX750 and HX850 are realy good sets and the Eclipse panel is amazing too dude. What I noticed with the new tv's is that they are realy sharper and that the colors are spot on. By now David Katzimier has a cut from the Sammy camp cause these Sony bashing reviews are beggining to sound a lil redundant.
post #2256 of 2539
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Originally Posted by pactel View Post


Welcome to the HX850 exchange club. I am also awaiting an exchange.
You didn't say - do you have the 46" or 55" HX820?
Do you mind saying what the terms of your exchange were? Straight across?
I was asked to pay $300 to "upgrade" my 3 mo. old broken 55HX820.

I haven't any real info on the HX850 other than what's on the Sony site.
The specs look identical to the HX820, except for the bump of Motion Flow from 480 to 960, which in the real world probably makes no difference, and a slightly different stand. Along with some silly wireless router bypass "So your friends can throw images and video from their smartphones to your TV without logging onto your wireless network." That would be a fun feature to demo in a store.

I could have sworn I once read that the HX850 was going to have a dual core processor, 480Hz instead of 240, and a few other upgrades, but now that I've scoured Sony's HX850 webpage, I can see there isn't too much of a difference at all.

Do the HX820 3D specs match the HX850?
post #2257 of 2539
I'm using the Digital Video Essentials HD Basics bluray to calibrate my HX823 (UK version of HX820).
On the colour test the blue and red filters give me the expected results, but the green is quite noticibly wrong. None of the gain/bias settings work, and changing the color/hue breaks the blue and red!
Any ideas?
post #2258 of 2539
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Originally Posted by JAMTUFF View Post

I will buddy, I am pulling hairs here stuck on major engineering projects like left to right. But soon as I have time I will go back and snap some fotos. I tried the glass on an old 37" 2007 Viewsonic lcd and man oh man. Yea this ish realy works. Im rarely impressed by new stuff but I'll say the new HX750 and HX850 are realy good sets and the Eclipse panel is amazing too dude. What I noticed with the new tv's is that they are realy sharper and that the colors are spot on. By now David Katzimier has a cut from the Sammy camp cause these Sony bashing reviews are beggining to sound a lil redundant.

No question that cnet is samsung bias, but I still want to see a review, hopefully for hdtest uk, about the hx750 or hx850. I love the look of the tvs, but worry about the black level.
post #2259 of 2539
Hello all, I apologise if I ask a silly question or something that has already been covered, this is a big forum . I'm new to AVS and live in the UK. I have recently bought a kdl46hx823 and am a little unhappy.

To start with I have a stuck pixel in the middle of the screen, but I am trying to live with this as I've heard it can happen, and my eyes cannot see it when I am in my usual position anyway.

My main problem is the 3d, Sony advertise a great 3d image but so far I have seen only terrible crosstalk. I have only got 2 films, both for my son (honestly) , they are despicable me and puss in boots.some images have bad shadowing to the left and right. I can fix it to get a perfect picture image by adjusting the 3d depth in the settings but then in the next scene it is all burry again and I have to go the other way with the 3d depth settings.

I would really appreciate any advice as I love my technology and this is not making me happy at all.... I have saved all year for a 3d tv , I'm thinking I should have gone with a passive set....

Thank you all again.
post #2260 of 2539
Sony wants TVs with better sound, tighter integration


By Rasmus Larsen
12 Apr 2012




http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1334215520

In a speech, Sony's new CEO, Kaz Hirai, has outlined the new One Sony strategy. As part of the initiative, Sony will reduce their TV line-up and focus on higher-end TVs with better sound systems and tighter integration with Sony's mobile devices.

One Sony

Sony has already reduced the TV line-up in 2012 by focusing more on mid-to-high-end TVs. According to Kaz Hirai, the move is an important step going forward and we will see more of this in the coming years.Kaz Hirai also says that Sony will take steps to enhance image and audio quality of its Bravia LCD-TVs, as well as enhancing the integration of TVs with Sony's mobile devices such as smartphones and tablets. We are not sure exactly how but Hirai underlines that movie and music content is important, which would suggest that Sony intends to expand their Music Unlimited and Video Unlimited services. Sony already gave us a few examples of cross-device integration at CES 2012 but Sony has grander plans.

Lastly, Kaz Hirai once again underlines that Sony will develop and commercialize next-generation display technologies such as OLED and Crystal LED over the next few years. We already know that Sony intends to introduce OLED-TVs next year but Hirai's speech indicated that this is a key focus area for Sony.

As part of the One Sony initiative, Sony will also cut 10,000 workers, and make significant reductions to their fixed costs.
post #2261 of 2539
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Originally Posted by ronin_d View Post

Hello all, I apologise if I ask a silly question or something that has already been covered, this is a big forum . I'm new to AVS and live in the UK. I have recently bought a kdl46hx823 and am a little unhappy.

To start with I have a stuck pixel in the middle of the screen, but I am trying to live with this as I've heard it can happen, and my eyes cannot see it when I am in my usual position anyway.

My main problem is the 3d, Sony advertise a great 3d image but so far I have seen only terrible crosstalk. I have only got 2 films, both for my son (honestly) , they are despicable me and puss in boots.some images have bad shadowing to the left and right. I can fix it to get a perfect picture image by adjusting the 3d depth in the settings but then in the next scene it is all burry again and I have to go the other way with the 3d depth settings.

I would really appreciate any advice as I love my technology and this is not making me happy at all.... I have saved all year for a 3d tv , I'm thinking I should have gone with a passive set....

Thank you all again.

The North American equivalent HX820 that I own displays very good 3D--minimal to no crosstalk/ghosting ( you really have to search for it) --In fact I exchanged the EX 720 TV for the HX820 because of the much improved 3D capabilities of the HX820.

However, I have read others in the UK complain about 3D capabilities on the hx823 as well ( you are not alone). I wonder if Sony used a different panel in the HX823 for Europe than the panel they used for the HX820 in North America, because I can say with confidence that I am very happy with the 3D capabilities on my HX820.

With that said, I know my comments still do not alleviate your situation... If your panel displays significant 3D crosstalk then I can tell you from my personal experience with the Sony EX720 that excessive 3D ghosting can be a jarring/nauseating experience and the only remedy for me was to exchange the TV altogether for another model that is capable of proper 3D processing--which in my case turned out to be the HX820.

If the 3D ghosting on your TV is more annoying/minimal here are a couple of things you can try:

1. Only use authentic 3D blu-ray discs.
2. 3D content streamed over the Internet (e.g. YouTube) can be very poor quality due to low bandwidth allocations
3. Make sure your 3D Display settings are configured correctly based upon the 3D source. There are three different 3D sources/displays: Simulated, Side-by-Side and Over-Under ( easliy selectable on your Sony TV) (3D content over satellite TV or cable can be very good but you need to align with the 3D type/display)
4. Use authentic Sony 3D glasses and make sure they are turned-on ( green light flashes continuously while on) with fresh batteries or fully charged. ( there are however excellent 3rd party 3D glasses out there--but in general they too are just as costly or even more so then the authentic Sony 3D glasses)
5. Make sure 3D Glasses Brightness setting on your Sony TV 3D settings is set to High.
6. LEDs are notorious for poor off-angle viewing. Even more so with 3D. Try to sit within 25-30 degrees of dead-center of the TV panel while viewing 3D content.
post #2262 of 2539
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Originally Posted by pactel View Post

I'll try tweeting @sonylistens and see if I can talk them out of the $300 charge,

Well, good news and not so good.


First the not so good:

I got a response to my tweet, saying they'll look into it. I also emailed sonylistens with a detailed timeline and a query as to why some customers aren't charged an "upgrade" fee. I received a curt one liner from a different sonylistens rep saying;

"There must be something different in other customers files"

I'll say .. the difference is they didn't pay for the privilege of exchanging their broken new set. Maybe the rep that responded to the tweet will take pity, but I am not counting on it.

Now the good news:

I received a call from a shipping company and they arranged to pick up my old set and deliver the new 55HX850 on Monday 4/16. The $300+tax charge also went through on my credit card to Sony.

Finally will have a working set on Monday, if all goes as planned.
post #2263 of 2539
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Originally Posted by pactel View Post

Well, good news and not so good.


First the not so good:

I got a response to my tweet, saying they'll look into it. I also emailed sonylistens with a detailed timeline and a query as to why some customers aren't charged an "upgrade" fee. I received a curt one liner from a different sonylistens rep saying;

"There must be something different in other customers files"

I'll say .. the difference is they didn't pay for the privilege of exchanging their broken new set. Maybe the rep that responded to the tweet will take pity, but I am not counting on it.

Now the good news:

I received a call from a shipping company and they arranged to pick up my old set and deliver the new 55HX850 on Monday 4/16. The $300+tax charge also went through on my credit card to Sony.

Finally will have a working set on Monday, if all goes as planned.

That's unfortunate. This wasn't my first run-around with Sony so perhaps they took pity on me, lol. Anyways, i paid wayy more than i should of for my original TV (ex720 upgraded to a hx820) so maybe that's why.

Hopefully mine arrives no later than friday.
post #2264 of 2539
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Originally Posted by Gregck View Post

Anyways, i paid wayy more than i should of for my original TV (ex720 upgraded to a hx820) so maybe that's why.

Hmm.. you may be on to something. Now that I think about it, there was no mention of needing the purchase receipt until it came time to discuss replacing the 55HX820. The repairman had been out twice to attempt to fix it by that time, with me needing only to supply the set's serial number.

I remember questioning the need to fax them the receipt. I asked why they needed it and told them the set had a build date of Oct. 2011, so was clearly under warranty. They said it was to verify ownership, I replied "It's in my house, so obviously I own it." I ended up faxing a copy of the receipt.

Now, I wonder if they ask for the receipt to see how much you paid for the set and use that to determine what kind of replacement deal to offer. While I didn't get the set for free at Fry's Electronics, I did get Fry's to price match Amazon, so I got a decent price.

It'd be interesting if this were the case and would be a reason to have "lost" the receipt in future warranty dealings.
post #2265 of 2539
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Originally Posted by pactel View Post

Hmm.. you may be on to something. Now that I think about it, there was no mention of needing the purchase receipt until it came time to discuss replacing the 55HX820. The repairman had been out twice to attempt to fix it by that time, with me needing only to supply the set's serial number.

I remember questioning the need to fax them the receipt. I asked why they needed it and told them the set had a build date of Oct. 2011, so was clearly under warranty. They said it was to verify ownership, I replied "It's in my house, so obviously I own it." I ended up faxing a copy of the receipt.

Now, I wonder if they ask for the receipt to see how much you paid for the set and use that to determine what kind of replacement deal to offer. While I didn't get the set for free at Fry's Electronics, I did get Fry's to price match Amazon, so I got a decent price.

It'd be interesting if this were the case and would be a reason to have "lost" the receipt in future warranty dealings.

Possibly. This was my 2nd defective sony TV (3rd if you count the one i returned to amazon) in less than 45 days. They probably had to feel bad for me at this point, haha.

Anyways, good luck, hopefully it works out for you. The HX820 --> HX850 upgrade is definitely worth more than $300 so don't feel too bummed. (At least i hope it is, havn't seen the set yet!)
post #2266 of 2539
I am sorry I couldnt read all of the topic, but I was wondering if anyone here also have problems while cleaning this beauty's screen?

My screen is full of marks (well not marks, it looks like soft stains) after I clean it out with a microfiber and a philips special liquid to clean lcds.

How can I take out those stains?

And, have guys seen any scratch, even minimum, on your set gorilla glasses' after cleaning it out??

Cause I have noticed some tiny after cleaning mine for the first time. They are very thin, tiny and only show up if you really look for it.

How come this happened? Shouldn't Gorilla Glass be resistant??? Gezz
post #2267 of 2539
On Friday, the shipping company gave me a Monday delivery time of between 1pm and 5pm. I waited.. and waited.. Nothing. 5pm came and went.

I had resigned myself to the delivery not happening, then at 5:30pm, the driver called and said they'd be there at 6pm. They were on their way.

Two guys arrived toting a new, boxed 55HX85, that's what the outside of the box says. I showed them into the room with the old set. They looked quizzically at it and then asked "Where would you like the new set?"

"There, to replace the old set, it's being exchanged." "Oh, this is an exchange?" He shuffled through some paperwork, "Yep, it's an exchange."

They set up the set on its stand, oddly there was no printed instruction included in the box, nor batteries for the remote. I don't know if these were missing or just don't come with the unit any longer. The remote is a bit smaller, gone is the cool "matrix style" pull out battery cover. It's just a standard backside cover now. It's nice, but I use a Harmony One anyway, which interestingly already had a device profile for the 55HX850.

The stand is metal with a glossy plastic covering. It is much sturdier that the 55HX820's flat metal stand, but slightly less attractive in my eyes. The stand rotates, but does not tilt at all.

The 55HX850 has a thin brushed aluminum edge, all around that detracts from the monolithic design, again in my eyes. But matches pretty well with the iphone (more on that in a bit) and my sliver and black Harmony One remote. The lighted Sony logo is gone. Just a plain silver logo.

The set appears physically smaller than the 55HX820 and appears to have a smaller border around the screen, but that may be an illusion. Maybe someone could verify. The 55HX850 measures 50" x 30" and the border is 1 ¼" wide. The gorilla glass also appears thinner, but this could just be because of the aluminum trim.

Got everything hooked back up, after the delivery guys left. They offered to do the hookups for me, but were a bit ham-fisted, and I prefer doing it myself. Missing on the 55HX850 is the dongle for component and composite video. The jacks are right in the back of the set, like normal TVs. Same number of in/outputs as the 55HX820; 4 HDMI, 1 Component, 1 Composite, Ethernet, PC (with audio), 2x USB, Optical audio and Coax. There is one other I don't remember from the 55HX820, labeled "Speaker Integrated Stand."

Got the set connected to the internet; checked for, downloaded and installed a firmware update.

Watched a couple hours.. so this will be my first impression of the video quality with factory settings, as compared to my memory of the 55HX820.

The picture is beautiful out of the box, looks just like the 55HX820. The flesh tones seem a bit more natural. The 55HX820 was a bit reddish. Other than that pretty much looked the same. The viewing angle is much better on the 55HX850. The picture doesn't have white-wash when viewing from extreme angles on the side, like the 55HX820. I watch motorcycle racing, and I watched a recorded MotoGP race last night. The action seemed a little smoother on the new set. I tested the 3D for a couple of minutes, it seemed about the same, maybe a bit brighter.

Overall, the picture quality was good and comparable to the 55HX820, maybe slight improvements, but other than the viewing angle, nothing spectacular.

I noticed the absence of the proximity sensor (the feature on the HX820 that turns the set off if a child is too close to the set) and its corresponding camera. The vacation power switch on the side is gone and the side buttons seem a bit "cheaper."

New features I noticed right away include "TrackID" which attempts to identify a song playing on the TV using Gracenote. I played with it a few times, it identified dialog as two songs and failed on music in my quick test. I'll never use it again.

The second is an app that can be downloaded to your iPhone/Android that turns your phone into a full featured remote control. It's a bit laggy -- but guess it'd be handy in a pinch. Probably never use it again.

There it is .. there is probably loads more I have missed, as I said, I have only used the set for a few hours.

Was it worth the $300 I was charged over the 55HX820, nope.
Some things I like better than the 55HX820, some not.
post #2268 of 2539
^^55hx820 has the trackID thing also. Never used it though.

aRe the menus still laggy? or is it smoother?? on hx820 you have to wait atleast 30 seconds after a cold start up before it starts responsing to remote conmmands.
post #2269 of 2539
@pactel. I think this is the first comparison between the 820/850 on this forum so far. Thanks for posting your initial thoughts.
post #2270 of 2539
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Originally Posted by madsony1 View Post

I am sorry I couldnt read all of the topic, but I was wondering if anyone here also have problems while cleaning this beauty's screen?

My screen is full of marks (well not marks, it looks like soft stains) after I clean it out with a microfiber and a philips special liquid to clean lcds.

How can I take out those stains?

And, have guys seen any scratch, even minimum, on your set gorilla glasses' after cleaning it out??

Cause I have noticed some tiny after cleaning mine for the first time. They are very thin, tiny and only show up if you really look for it.

How come this happened? Shouldn't Gorilla Glass be resistant??? Gezz

Not sure whats going on there. I use an LCD spray too ( GE) and haven't experienced any streaking or stains on the glass. The only thing I can think of is that something is on the microfiber that may be transferring to the glass. Maybe try using another new microfiber cloth without the Philips cleaner to see if that helps.

One other thing is to avoid washing your microfiber cloth with detergents with fabric softner--the softner chemical can transfer to the microfiber cloth and smear your glass too.
post #2271 of 2539
@pactel thanks for posting your thoughts.


The song ID thing is in all the models with internet connectivity (was in my ex720 and hx820). I like it and it works surprisingly well, maybe the hx850 got downgraded or something. As for the proximity sensor, THANK GOD. I HATED that thing, i turned it off at least 6 times only to have it pop back up again.

How is the internet browser, usable?

Thanks
post #2272 of 2539
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Originally Posted by Gregck View Post

@pactel thanks for posting your thoughts.


The song ID thing is in all the models with internet connectivity (was in my ex720 and hx820). I like it and it works surprisingly well, maybe the hx850 got downgraded or something. As for the proximity sensor, THANK GOD. I HATED that thing, i turned it off at least 6 times only to have it pop back up again.

How is the internet browser, usable?

Thanks

To be honest, I didn't give the TrackID feature a real test. I just activated it on random music and dialog while watching a sho
w. As far as the browser, I am using it to enter this reply.it took about 45 seconds to load the unchangable, afaik, home page.I used google and logged on here . it had taken at least 10 times longer than it would on a pc.With some practice though it would be faster. also I am using the Sony remote control app to enter text a line at a time, cumbersome, but it has the iPhone to use as a trackpad mouse and keyboard.I could imagine trying to use the tv remote. it would take ages.so if you're reading this message I would say, yes, the browser is usable when paired with a smartphone, if you are the patient sort.
post #2273 of 2539
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Originally Posted by isrararrafi View Post

^^55hx820 has the trackID thing also. Never used it though.

aRe the menus still laggy? or is it smoother?? on hx820 you have to wait atleast 30 seconds after a cold start up before it starts responsing to remote conmmands.


Whew.. back on the pc. I guess I never noticed TrackID on the 55HX820.

I guess if I think about it, the menus can't keep up with rapid button presses.
But, not any worse than any other TV or cable box. In that respect I would say the 850 responds about the same as the 820.
post #2274 of 2539
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Originally Posted by pactel View Post

On Friday, the shipping company gave me a Monday delivery time of between 1pm and 5pm. I waited.. and waited.. Nothing. 5pm came and went.

I had resigned myself to the delivery not happening, then at 5:30pm, the driver called and said they'd be there at 6pm. They were on their way.

Two guys arrived toting a new, boxed 55HX85, that's what the outside of the box says. I showed them into the room with the old set. They looked quizzically at it and then asked "Where would you like the new set?"

"There, to replace the old set, it's being exchanged." "Oh, this is an exchange?" He shuffled through some paperwork, "Yep, it's an exchange."

They set up the set on its stand, oddly there was no printed instruction included in the box, nor batteries for the remote. I don't know if these were missing or just don't come with the unit any longer. The remote is a bit smaller, gone is the cool "matrix style" pull out battery cover. It's just a standard backside cover now. It's nice, but I use a Harmony One anyway, which interestingly already had a device profile for the 55HX850.

The stand is metal with a glossy plastic covering. It is much sturdier that the 55HX820's flat metal stand, but slightly less attractive in my eyes. The stand rotates, but does not tilt at all.

The 55HX850 has a thin brushed aluminum edge, all around that detracts from the monolithic design, again in my eyes. But matches pretty well with the iphone (more on that in a bit) and my sliver and black Harmony One remote. The lighted Sony logo is gone. Just a plain silver logo.

The set appears physically smaller than the 55HX820 and appears to have a smaller border around the screen, but that may be an illusion. Maybe someone could verify. The 55HX850 measures 50" x 30" and the border is 1 ¼" wide. The gorilla glass also appears thinner, but this could just be because of the aluminum trim.

Got everything hooked back up, after the delivery guys left. They offered to do the hookups for me, but were a bit ham-fisted, and I prefer doing it myself. Missing on the 55HX850 is the dongle for component and composite video. The jacks are right in the back of the set, like normal TVs. Same number of in/outputs as the 55HX820; 4 HDMI, 1 Component, 1 Composite, Ethernet, PC (with audio), 2x USB, Optical audio and Coax. There is one other I don't remember from the 55HX820, labeled "Speaker Integrated Stand."

Got the set connected to the internet; checked for, downloaded and installed a firmware update.

Watched a couple hours.. so this will be my first impression of the video quality with factory settings, as compared to my memory of the 55HX820.

The picture is beautiful out of the box, looks just like the 55HX820. The flesh tones seem a bit more natural. The 55HX820 was a bit reddish. Other than that pretty much looked the same. The viewing angle is much better on the 55HX850. The picture doesn't have white-wash when viewing from extreme angles on the side, like the 55HX820. I watch motorcycle racing, and I watched a recorded MotoGP race last night. The action seemed a little smoother on the new set. I tested the 3D for a couple of minutes, it seemed about the same, maybe a bit brighter.

Overall, the picture quality was good and comparable to the 55HX820, maybe slight improvements, but other than the viewing angle, nothing spectacular.

I noticed the absence of the proximity sensor (the feature on the HX820 that turns the set off if a child is too close to the set) and its corresponding camera. The vacation power switch on the side is gone and the side buttons seem a bit "cheaper."

New features I noticed right away include "TrackID" which attempts to identify a song playing on the TV using Gracenote. I played with it a few times, it identified dialog as two songs and failed on music in my quick test. I'll never use it again.

The second is an app that can be downloaded to your iPhone/Android that turns your phone into a full featured remote control. It's a bit laggy -- but guess it'd be handy in a pinch. Probably never use it again.

There it is .. there is probably loads more I have missed, as I said, I have only used the set for a few hours.

Was it worth the $300 I was charged over the 55HX820, nope.
Some things I like better than the 55HX820, some not.

Black levels?
post #2275 of 2539
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

Black levels?

I would be curious about this is well? The hx820, I know had very good blacks. According to cnet, which does not mean much, the hx750 has terrible blacks.
post #2276 of 2539
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Originally Posted by vincevega44 View Post

I would be curious about this is well? The hx820, I know had very good blacks. According to cnet, which does not mean much, the hx750 has terrible blacks.

black levels on the hx820 were helped tremendously by the gorilla glass iirc.
post #2277 of 2539
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

Black levels?

After two days, I haven't spent that much time with the 55HX850.
While the picture on the set is excellent, I don't think it is as good as the 55HX820 in reproducing deep blacks. The picture does, however, seem a bit crisper overall than the HX820.

My HX820 produced deep inky, blend into the frame, blacks right out of the box. The blacks are good on the HX850, but not as good. I had to reduce the brightness on the hx850 last night to get rid of the splotchy grey appearing in large black areas last evening.

Maybe some combination of adjustments will produce better results, but I haven't found it yet.
post #2278 of 2539
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Originally Posted by pactel View Post

After two days, I haven't spent that much time with the 55HX850.
While the picture on the set is excellent, I don't think it is as good as the 55HX820 in reproducing deep blacks. The picture does, however, seem a bit crisper overall than the HX820.

My HX820 produced deep inky, blend into the frame, blacks right out of the box. The blacks are good on the HX850, but not as good. I had to reduce the brightness on the hx850 last night to get rid of the splotchy grey appearing in large black areas last evening.

Maybe some combination of adjustments will produce better results, but I haven't found it yet.


Wow that sounds awful! My hx850 is coming monday and i really don't want to hear the black levels are bad. Oh well hope for the best.
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OMG, illuminated sony logo GONE? Why would they ever do that? That was soo beautiful!!

So the only model left with illuminated logo is the XBR 920/929????

BUMMER!
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Originally Posted by Gregck View Post

Wow that sounds awful! My hx850 is coming monday and i really don't want to hear the black levels are bad. Oh well hope for the best.

It's not all that bad, I am not looking to return the set. The black levels just are, IMHO, not as good as the older 55HX820. I don't know why.

I did find that the stand does tilt, you have to give a a good push and hold the bottom, so adjusting the the screen back a bit helped. Also I changed the LED Dynamic Control to LOW, from STANDARD, and that helped the black levels a lot. Seems like it should have done the opposite.

So far I have only watched TV and played xbox. I have 2 DVD players (an older HDDVD and Blu-Ray) and an Apple TV, so along with my IPTV cable box, my 4 HDMI inputs are used.

The Xbox is on the component input, I have that set on the Game Television profile and also had to turn LED Dynamic Control to LOW to get decent blacks. In that mode almost all picture enhancement settings are turned OFF, so I dunno.

IMO the 55HX850 is a nice looking set, but with Sony setting a MAP ~$2600 they won't sell many. There are as nice sets for a lot less money.
In the news, Sony seems to be in trouble, big losses and layoffs, especially the TV department.

PS: I am adding this as an edit. I just noticed something. While looking at my 55HX850 while off, the screen appears as a dark greyish black with a dark black border. I remember the 55HX820 looking totally jet black, border and screen. I don't know, may be the way light is hitting it, may be its the the screen coated differently. But I find it interesting given my observed differences in black levels on the 2 sets.

But - beauty is in the eye on the beholder, I'd be interested in your impression when you receive your 46HX850 on Monday. In the meantime here is the first, and a contrasting, review on Amazon, from a guy that exchanged a Samsung model for the 55HX850. http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-...stRecentReview
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