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post #2311 of 2584
Thanks. I went to 3 stores last night too see if they had the 850. No luck. Sears had just 3 models of Sony. Everything else was Samsung and LG. I saw the 750 and the new remote (Which I don't like. So cheap.I'll keep the 820 remote)
I'm going to stick with and support Sony through this rough patch and get the 55 850 replacement. I'm most interested in getting the best picture quality out there. Sony got caught with there pants down from the South Korean brands just like the car and home appliance industry. Sony is all about entertainment and innovation, they will be back I hope. When Samsung and LG start making movies and Sony starts making dishwashers then Im going to be really worried.
post #2312 of 2584
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Originally Posted by Jeff909 View Post

Thanks. I went to 3 stores last night too see if they had the 850. No luck. Sears had just 3 models of Sony. Everything else was Samsung and LG. I saw the 750 and the new remote (Which I don't like. So cheap.I'll keep the 820 remote)
I'm going to stick with and support Sony through this rough patch and get the 55 850 replacement. I'm most interested in getting the best picture quality out there. Sony got caught with there pants down from the South Korean brands just like the car and home appliance industry. Sony is all about entertainment and innovation, they will be back I hope. When Samsung and LG start making movies and Sony starts making dishwashers then Im going to be really worried.

Flashlighting and clouding are across the board-in all brands. A friend has a 55" Samsung (non-3D so lower end) and has terrible flash lighting in the corners. As a matter of fact, I have another friend who got a 46" XBR929 over the Black holiday w/e and has clouding. It really is a crap shoot with this technology. most people aren't as fussy as we are. I was less lucky with the 52701 and extremely lucky with the 729. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you get a set you'll love. PS: Sony may want that remote back.
post #2313 of 2584
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Originally Posted by steve ans View Post

Flashlighting and clouding are across the board-in all brands. A friend has a 55" Samsung (non-3D so lower end) and has terrible flash lighting in the corners. As a matter of fact, I have another friend who got a 46" XBR929 over the Black holiday w/e and has clouding. It really is a crap shoot with this technology. most people aren't as fussy as we are. I was less lucky with the 52701 and extremely lucky with the 729. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you get a set you'll love. PS: Sony may want that remote back.


I hope not. The 2012 remote sucks. If they do I'll send the 820 remote back too them.Opps my bad
post #2314 of 2584
I have a question about home theater. One of the surround channels in my amp blew last night (it's a 15 year old Sony integrated surround tower system) so with my tax return at hand, I've decided that it's time to buy a REAL a/v receiver.

My question is this: Since I currently utilize two HDMI inputs on the back of my 55HX820 (one for cable and the other for the PS3 so that I may set different picture settings), what happens when I decide to run my cable box and PS3 into the a/v receiver, which then only requires one HDMI cable to run to the TV? I now lose the option of having different color settings since I will then be using only HDMI input 1 on the back of the TV. Do I need to purchase a receiver that has two HDMI outs, or is that feature exclusively used for dual monitor/tv support?

Thanks for the help.
post #2315 of 2584
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Originally Posted by DaCuse View Post

I have a question about home theater. One of the surround channels in my amp blew last night (it's a 15 year old Sony integrated surround tower system) so with my tax return at hand, I've decided that it's time to buy a REAL a/v receiver.

My question is this: Since I currently utilize two HDMI inputs on the back of my 55HX820 (one for cable and the other for the PS3 so that I may set different picture settings), what happens when I decide to run my cable box and PS3 into the a/v receiver, which then only requires one HDMI cable to run to the TV? I now lose the option of having different color settings since I will then be using only HDMI input 1 on the back of the TV. Do I need to purchase a receiver that has two HDMI outs, or is that feature exclusively used for dual monitor/tv support?

Thanks for the help.

It's a good question. I use a single color/calibration for all inputs since I have an AVR sending everything to my 820 through one HDMI. Not sure if there is a better way.
post #2316 of 2584
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Originally Posted by millerrh View Post

It's a good question. I use a single color/calibration for all inputs since I have an AVR sending everything to my 820 through one HDMI. Not sure if there is a better way.

Been thinking about it for a couple hours. I think I need to purchase an optical audio cable (to go from tv to receiver) so that I may retain the custom color settings of each input. This way both the PS3 and the Wii can stay hooked up to the TV, and all I need to do is make sure that the receiver I purchase has an optical audio in.

Should that solve the issue?

It would probably be better for the PS3 (not sure about the Wii) to bypass the video upconversion processor built into a/v receivers. Doesn't the 55HX820 automatically upconvert all signals to 1080p anyway?
post #2317 of 2584
pactel
can you post a pix of your HX850s stand?
I hope it looks like as shown here otherwise they tricked us from the CES announcement:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1326241462
or
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/pictures/sonyhx850-1l.jpg
or
http://cnettv.cnet.com/take-first-lo...-50118030.html


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Originally Posted by pactel View Post

The stand is metal with a glossy plastic covering. It is much sturdier that the 55HX820's flat metal stand, but slightly less attractive in my eyes. The stand rotates, but does not tilt at all.

The 55HX850 has a thin brushed aluminum edge, all around that detracts from the monolithic design, again in my eyes. But matches pretty well with the iphone (more on that in a bit) and my sliver and black Harmony One remote. The lighted Sony logo is gone. Just a plain silver logo.
post #2318 of 2584
They received their HX850 on 4/24 so a review is going to happen soon.
You can request specific things for them to test in the comments section here:

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1335250671
post #2319 of 2584
Can anyone interpret what he is saying about the HX850 in this review?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kHqB44ja3k
post #2320 of 2584
I found the link for the OPTIONAL monolithic stand for the HX850:

http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...ionalImage1%22

Its an added $150 for the 46" version !!

and $180 for the 55" version:
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...52921666424876

They tricked us with all the PR/ads hype showing that stand on the reviews and made us assume it was std equipment not optional !
post #2321 of 2584
the stand this year is more "plasticky" but overall better. It swivels better and isn't as noticeable as the 820 stand. Should also mention the bezel on the hx850 is A LOT better and is a lot smaller. After 5 days with the hx850 i can say it's definitely a better set. It still has problems with 3d when you tilt your head at all, which is really annoying.
post #2322 of 2584
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Originally Posted by Gregck View Post

the stand this year is more "plasticky" but overall better. It swivels better and isn't as noticeable as the 820 stand. Should also mention the bezel on the hx850 is A LOT better and is a lot smaller. After 5 days with the hx850 i can say it's definitely a better set. It still has problems with 3d when you tilt your head at all, which is really annoying.

How is the off-angle haloing and is there any DSE on panning shots? Thanks
post #2323 of 2584
I think someone should open a seperate 850 thread for the benefit of all the new owners
post #2324 of 2584
yes,there should be a hx850 thread. How can anyone say for sure the hx850 is better than the hx820,when the hx820 they recieved had q.c. issues? I have an hx820 with zero creases & little to no clouding (a vauge 1" veil in bottom left corner) after 5 mins adjusting a couple of settings & its a seriously high quality set & im probably 1 of the lucky 1s,but whats the good to faulty set ratio?. I am only too well aware of earlier sets with the dreaded "crease" and the cost. But if anyone got an issue free set,like myself its unlikely they would be changing out for the hx850,from whats being said with specification cuts. So yes, obviously a "good" hx850 would be a better set than a faulty hx820. But an hx850 with no crease etc. being a better set than an issue free hx820,i doubt it esp. with the cost cutting thats apparent. With the set i got i am 99.9 % happy with it & i know there are unhappy owners outhere,but a crease affected hx820 should not be compared to a creaseless hx850.
post #2325 of 2584
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Originally Posted by steve ans View Post

Take the offer. I don't think you're going to get an 820 that you'll really like. It's a good offer as opposed to repairing your 820.

Whats the story stateside regarding recent manufactured hx820s,crease &banding wise? It seems feb '12 +. manufactured hx823 sets are fine in comparison to pre new-year manufactured sets...
post #2326 of 2584
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Originally Posted by Donke View Post

How is the off-angle haloing and is there any DSE on panning shots? Thanks

I am not experienced enough to comment on that but the off-angle viewing is definitely better, i cannot notice anything that resembles a "halo". As far as DSE, no idea what that is. I'd be happy to look if described what i'd be looking for.
post #2327 of 2584
post #2328 of 2584
For those with the hx820, how bad is your clouding and flash lighting? My clouding happens in diagonal streaks on the entire half of the screen. The right half is perfectly fine. I'll post pictures when I get a chance. Does anyone else have pictures of the clouding that they can share so I can compare the severity.

Thanks!
post #2329 of 2584
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Originally Posted by jameswma View Post

For those with the hx820, how bad is your clouding and flash lighting? My clouding happens in diagonal streaks on the entire half of the screen. The right half is perfectly fine. I'll post pictures when I get a chance. Does anyone else have pictures of the clouding that they can share so I can compare the severity.

Thanks!

I have my settings on default cinema 1,backlight 4 for night & daytime viewing,only settings i use are Dynamic led control on standard & black corrector on min,as it gets rid of a small 1" veil spot in bottom left corner. Very uniform screen as i read that backlight uniformity wasn't the best.

Man i had really bad clouding on a previous W3000 & what i have now is a nice uniform screen in comparison. Earlier manufactured hx820s seem to suffer more as reports are in of recent sets with little flashlighting & clouding,also,prob most important to many,no crease either.Really excellent tv if like me your lucky & get an issue-free set.
post #2330 of 2584
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Originally Posted by jameswma View Post

For those with the hx820, how bad is your clouding and flash lighting? My clouding happens in diagonal streaks on the entire half of the screen. The right half is perfectly fine. I'll post pictures when I get a chance. Does anyone else have pictures of the clouding that they can share so I can compare the severity.

Thanks!

That doesnt sound right.. On proper settings you should barely have any on the entire set but just half sounds like a defect.. These 820s dont have any worse clouding or flashlighting than most led sets out now, on gaming you take a hit but thats expected. The corners leak out light on most of the sets I have seen(about 1-2 inches) but on a 46-55 inch set who watches the corners. All sets will be different with the clouding and flashlighting though, put up a pic and let us see but it sounds like defect.
post #2331 of 2584
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Originally Posted by drasher_ View Post

That doesnt sound right.. On proper settings you should barely have any on the entire set but just half sounds like a defect.. These 820s dont have any worse clouding or flashlighting than most led sets out now, on gaming you take a hit but thats expected. The corners leak out light on most of the sets I have seen(about 1-2 inches) but on a 46-55 inch set who watches the corners. All sets will be different with the clouding and flashlighting though, put up a pic and let us see but it sounds like defect.

I was thinking something similar after my last post.
I know a few had the "crease" effect but uniformity was good on the hx820 back a few months,but really excellent now. IMO Dyn. led control works a treat as it does on the hx800. If anyone in the market can bag a "NEW" HX820 anymore go right ahead,its some serious tv for the $$$s!
post #2332 of 2584
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Originally Posted by drasher_ View Post

That doesnt sound right.. On proper settings you should barely have any on the entire set but just half sounds like a defect.. These 820s dont have any worse clouding or flashlighting than most led sets out now, on gaming you take a hit but thats expected. The corners leak out light on most of the sets I have seen(about 1-2 inches) but on a 46-55 inch set who watches the corners. All sets will be different with the clouding and flashlighting though, put up a pic and let us see but it sounds like defect.


I'd have to admit, the clouding has improved significantly since day 1 and it was difficult for me to capture the clouding using my camera. Each picture was taken at a different angle to capture the clouding in different parts of the TV. There is also a third streak underneath near the middle but I was unable to produce it on camera. The picture does not seem like its bad, but in person, its very noticeable even with my backlight turned down to 1.


post #2333 of 2584
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Originally Posted by drasher_ View Post

I had some free time and decided to actually try to go through the service menu and look around.. First I could see what Jamtuff and some other people said about the white point setting changing a tv.. I, at first didnt notice any change but thought I was doing it wrong so just focused on the regular and advanced settings then came back to the white point and tried again and finally had success, kind of funny how stupid a mistake I was doing.. I think a lot of people are doing the same mistake as I am because the instructions people give are vague on what you do after you set your white point..

This is what I did to enter the service menu with which you can change white point:

1. Power Off
2. Display
3. 5
4. Volume +
5. Power On

A ugly green and black menu should be in the middle/right of the tv, from here:

1. 1
2. 2
3. 0
4. Enter (middle of the cirlce navigator, press crosshair button)
5. Enter (middle of the cirlce navigator, press crosshair button)

Now here is where you enter the white point setting with numbers 00-10 (if you want 5 it would be 05, if you want 7 it would be 07, if you want 0 it would be 00) sorry for so many examples but at first I would put just 5 or 7.. has to be 2 digits no matter what.

After you input your white point setting:

1. Enter

2. Your screen turns white.. its normal dont panic

(Do not worry what setting you input, you have full controll.. Hit Return to go back to the white point setting menu to try again... Go off the white screen to judge what you want)

After being happy with your pick:

1. Jump
2. Muting
3. 0
4. Then power off
5. Wait 20 seconds then turn power on

There you go... A long, winded instruction on how to set the white point... Sorry if this has been posted 100 times but it was unclear to me when I searched.

I realize this was discussed last month but I'm only now looking into this. I have scheduled a local video calibrator to tune my set this Friday and would like to give him accurate instructions on how to access this menu and its settings.

The problem is that this process doesn't work for me - nothing happens. I take it that one starts with the TV turned off or should I begin this process with the set turned on? Incidentally, there are no separate Power ON or OFF buttons only a toggle switch. Do you hit the toggle once, twice?

Step 3 - I presume is to hit the number 5. Also, Step 4 has you hit the Volume + button or should you press and hold?

I'm sorry if these seem simple questions but it does seem odd that I get no response whatsoever. Has anyone else had these issues or did I get the process wrong?

A little more clarification concerning these steps would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
post #2334 of 2584
Sorry to push but I have to bump this post up the line. Could anyone hazard any guess as to what my issue(s) are (please see last post)? Has anyone encountered similar problems and if so what did you do to resolve this?
post #2335 of 2584
I too would like further clarification. The above steps are unintelligible.
post #2336 of 2584
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Originally Posted by Chazcdc54 View Post

Sorry to push but I have to bump this post up the line. Could anyone hazard any guess as to what my issue(s) are (please see last post)? Has anyone encountered similar problems and if so what did you do to resolve this?

This works on my old BX series but not the HX. But you start off with the tv off.
post #2337 of 2584
Well, I wish drasher had specified that. I tried again to no avail. Just to remind you there are no separate Power On or Off buttons, just a toggle. If the set is off when you hit the power button the command sent will always be "on" in this scenario.

I normally use a Harmony One universal remote. I went into Device mode for the Sony and hit the discrete Power Off command but that didn't work either. So, I don't see how you guys had any luck. Kindly refrain from including instructions for TVs other than the HX820, as this forum focuses on this machine alone, or at least it should. What we need are steps for the 820!

Help!!
post #2338 of 2584
Me ranting about the logo on the sony forum regarding the 850 one.

They said my comment will be taken for further analysis.

If you like to complain about something else.

Please do so.

Bring the freaking Sony illuminated logo back, will ya, Sony?

https://forum.sel.sony.com/viewtopic...p=37847#p37847
post #2339 of 2584
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Originally Posted by madsony1 View Post

Me ranting about the logo on the sony forum regarding the 850 one.

They said my comment will be taken for further analysis.

If you like to complain about something else.

Please do so.

Bring the freaking Sony illuminated logo back, will ya, Sony?

https://forum.sel.sony.com/viewtopic...p=37847#p37847


I have the illuminating logo on my 55820 and I do turn it off. But I still want it. When my 55850 arrives on Monday I'll miss it and the better remote
(Which I'm Keeping, sorry Sony)
I'm sorry Sony I do like the styling of my 820 much better then the 850. Really the logo. That was part of the TV I left on when guests came, so I could show off the beautiful styling of this set. And don't get me started on the remote. Really? The top of the line sets always had a nicer remote. The nerve of Sony for giving customers there top of the line set, with a remote worse then last years set. And the new model costs more.
If I wanted a suck ass remote from a bottom of the line set, thats what I would have gotten.
The 850 should have been identical to the 820 with the improved features and maybe the chrome strip. I could give a **** about the component inputs and outputs. Who uses that now a days.
I'm sure Monday though when the new set comes,I'll love it. It better have a improved picture and no flash-lighting or clouding and creases.Well any whey, I'll sure miss the old one.
Your fired.
post #2340 of 2584
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Originally Posted by samjsheldon View Post

I too would like further clarification. The above steps are unintelligible.

Man I would hate to see you tie your shoes... If you cant access the service menu with those steps than I dont think you should be in the menu at all... I have had many messages from people thanking me for clear instructions, sorry if Im not there to hold your hand.
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