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post #151 of 844
I've had a 60PV400 for about a week now.. beautiful set, I'm quite impressed with it especially since my last set was a 73" DLP..with the typical warped screen problem. Plus I'm a CRT projector veteran, so I really appreciate the color accuracy and deep blacks of plasma, of course a sister technology.

I am really hoping for some info of how to access the service menu on these sets.. if only for the hour counter.. since I am trying to carefully break in this set. Any info out there yet?

Kinda nice to be back..lol my first post here in years.
post #152 of 844
According to http://www.televisioninfo.com black level for popular sets:



What is black level for PV450? Anybody did test it ? Any professional review on web?
post #153 of 844
I am having really bad image retention with the 50pv450 which I purchased last week. Has anyone had this issue initially and then eventually had it improve over time until it is no longer an issue?
post #154 of 844
A new plasma normally shows a considerable amount of IR. For the first 100 hours or so, try to avoid prolonged static images( especially bright ones) and avoid black bars.. use the zoom feature to stretch your image fullscreen. Also(on my set anyhow) use the white and color wash features to "clean" the screen if needed. Once the phosphor gets "broken in" the IR should lessen if not disappear.. providing you are careful and do not "burn" an image/pattern into the screen in the first crucial hours. Keeping the contrast out if "torch" mode is also important
Since running it toi high greatly raises the chance of permanent damage.

Even after the break-in though, use common sense with static images or ratios with black bars, as the screen can still burn..just not as quickly.
post #155 of 844
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Originally Posted by ksand1956 View Post

I am having really bad image retention with the 50pv450 which I purchased last week. Has anyone had this issue initially and then eventually had it improve over time until it is no longer an issue?

I have image retention but it's way better now sence i had it over a month now. I still get it but goes away very fast
post #156 of 844
I don't get any. Not even for a second. It's crazy
post #157 of 844
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Originally Posted by skillz73187 View Post

I have image retention but it's way better now sence i had it over a month now. I still get it but goes away very fast

I don't see even a hint of IR on my 60PV450, not even a hint. Yes, I did break it in using the color slides in a continuous loop. Maybe it was worth it after all?
post #158 of 844
Makes two of us.
post #159 of 844
I notice on some cable content that the high black level looks better but 90 percent of the time low looks better strange
post #160 of 844
Service Menu followup and in-depth manuals.

Looks like straight from the LG CS Academy. From the training manual, that a service remote is required. The part numbers are:

- p/n 105-201M
- p/n MKJ39170828

Then enter the password: 0000 or 0413

I doubted that site because of it's IP address, but after going through the training manual, it looks legit. It also looks like a mistake from LG to make this info available. There's plenty of information that further explains their marketing terms.

Of particular interesting is the HDTV Diagnositics screen that will display the SNR for HDTV channel being viewed. Go to the channel menu then press the 1 key 5 to 8 times.
post #161 of 844
Hey got a PV450 about a month ago...

Love the set so far except for dark scenes on MKV movies such as Braveheart and Inception. In dark scenes I get a fuzzy screen that isn't there on my LED Also on the darker night scenes lose details of background that I can see on my Sony HX800 LED. Is this normal?
post #162 of 844
Crappy blacks can do that.
post #163 of 844
Try adjusting the gamma.
post #164 of 844
lifesun, JukeBox360 thank you for the information. If you could post a picture that would be outstanding! Is the PV400 for sure the same as the PV450? On Costco's website it claims the USB jack is only for service?
post #165 of 844
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Originally Posted by Coligion View Post

lifesun, JukeBox360 thank you for the information. If you could post a picture that would be outstanding! Is the PV400 for sure the same as the PV450? On Costco's website it claims the USB jack is only for service?

YES, they are indeed the same set. Also, what is it you'd like a picture of?
post #166 of 844
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

YES, they are indeed the same set. Also, what is it you'd like a picture of?

In your previous post you mentioned you could take a picture of some black content. I'm not sure how well it will represent the black levels, but I'd still be curious.
post #167 of 844
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In your previous post you mentioned you could take a picture of some black content. I'm not sure how well it will represent the black levels, but I'd still be curious.

Not a problem. I can post up some pictures of it tonight. I'll use the dark knight, I AM LEGEND, and Avatar. There's is a few decent scenes I always use to test out picture. Those will be what I use. I'll also post pics of my led tv. To get a greater deal of black level comparison.
post #168 of 844
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In your previous post you mentioned you could take a picture of some black content. I'm not sure how well it will represent the black levels, but I'd still be curious.

Just letting you know I'm taking a few pictures now. I'm no pro but I will try to take the best pictures that I can. Sorry about it taking so long.
post #169 of 844
Ok. Here Are A Few Pics. I play a lot of games and found myself watching football and playing games more then getting to the pictures I said I had planned to do. That being said. I figured. What the heck, why not take some pictures of what I see daily on my set? So, that's exactly what I did.



















Showed some black level as well as normal content. Mainly gaming. I game a lot so maybe someone thinking of gaming on this set might want to see these pics.
post #170 of 844
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Originally Posted by Onees View Post

According to http://www.televisioninfo.com black level for popular sets:

What is black level for PV450? Anybody did test it ? Any professional review on web?

I believe the black was measured at .0416 on my set (PV400) in Expert 2 (Calibrated ISF Night). See my calibration charts a few pages back.

-Bn
post #171 of 844
To jukebox360. How did you get your black level to look so deep?
post #172 of 844
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To jukebox360. How did you get your black level to look so deep?

Tweak the settings a bit. I've also noticed blacks seem to get better as the TV gets older. No idea why. From day 1 and now my black level has improved.
post #173 of 844


This one is by far my favorite one. LCD can't make it look this good
post #174 of 844
Thanks for the pics, JukeBox360. Much appreciated.
post #175 of 844
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Originally Posted by Coligion View Post

Thanks for the pics, JukeBox360. Much appreciated.

Not a problem! If there is any other pics I can post just let me know. I think i'll post some Avatar and mw2 footage today. Both good content so it should look good. Maybe God Of War 3 as well.
post #176 of 844
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Tweak the settings a bit. I've also noticed blacks seem to get better as the TV gets older. No idea why. From day 1 and now my black level has improved.

Totally agree. PQ on this set improved teh most for me after the initial 50 hours. I can't imagine Panny or Samsung can be noticeably better than this.

I watch a lot of Planet Earth and also Great Migrations on this set with my kids and the pictures are unreal, they jump at you. Very nice.
post #177 of 844
More pics about to come!
post #178 of 844
Hey jukebox notice you got a ps3 add me Skillz_203
post #179 of 844
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Originally Posted by wilsonzhang2005 View Post
Totally agree. PQ on this set improved teh most for me after the initial 50 hours. I can't imagine Panny or Samsung can be noticeably better than this.

I watch a lot of Planet Earth and also Great Migrations on this set with my kids and the pictures are unreal, they jump at you. Very nice.


Not sure how many hours yet, however, I have to agree also that the black level and over all picture quality is getting better over time. Unlike most, I went ahead and calibrated to my liking and my contrast is at 85 for DISH and 100 for PS3 Bluray and I see little if no IR at all, which amazes me.

I also finally got around to try some gaming, and if this TV has any lag I sure don't see it. I have no way to measure it, however, compared to the Sony LCD that this replaced...........I seem to be doing better online with Reach...LOL!
post #180 of 844
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Originally Posted by lifesun View Post
Not sure how many hours yet, however, I have to agree also that the black level and over all picture quality is getting better over time. Unlike most, I went ahead and calibrated to my liking and my contrast is at 85 for DISH and 100 for PS3 Bluray and I see little if no IR at all, which amazes me.

I also finally got around to try some gaming, and if this TV has any lag I sure don't see it. I have no way to measure it, however, compared to the Sony LCD that this replaced...........I seem to be doing better online with Reach...LOL!
I do not notice any lag at all as well. I'm a huger gamer. (If you couldn't tell by the pics already lol)
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