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post #181 of 844
New member of the pv450 club. Purchased a 60" on Saturday. I've been tweaking it ever since. Bluray movies are looking fantastic but I need to get the black level dialed in. It is a little too dark right now.
post #182 of 844
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Originally Posted by JSK0307 View Post

New member of the pv450 club. Purchased a 60" on Saturday. I've been tweaking it ever since. Bluray movies are looking fantastic but I need to get the black level dialed in. It is a little too dark right now.

Mind sending me a pm on how much you paid? I think I paid more then anyone here lol.
post #183 of 844
I've ordered the 50" set as my first ever plasma. I've always had LCD sets and wanted to get deper blacks and give plasma aroll. I also thought this set had great features for the $749 I paid. I had no need for 3D so I think short of that this set seems like a good buy.
post #184 of 844
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Originally Posted by Sonynut View Post

A new plasma normally shows a considerable amount of IR. For the first 100 hours or so, try to avoid prolonged static images( especially bright ones) and avoid black bars.. use the zoom feature to stretch your image fullscreen. Also(on my set anyhow) use the white and color wash features to "clean" the screen if needed. Once the phosphor gets "broken in" the IR should lessen if not disappear.. providing you are careful and do not "burn" an image/pattern into the screen in the first crucial hours. Keeping the contrast out if "torch" mode is also important
Since running it toi high greatly raises the chance of permanent damage.

Even after the break-in though, use common sense with static images or ratios with black bars, as the screen can still burn..just not as quickly.

Would Gaming in short duration be ok?
post #185 of 844
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Originally Posted by Scarpad View Post

Would Gaming in short duration be ok?

Gaming is fine just mix it up. I've had my pv450 since Saturday and probably have over 30 hours of gaming between myself and my 2 boys. I just try to not keep static images (health bars, HUD, etc.) on the screen for too long. So far, so good. I have noticed some IR but it goes away pretty quick.
post #186 of 844
I game on this set more then I watch it. Hours at a time. Same exact game. (Black Ops) I haven't had a single issue with my set. It's awsome.
post #187 of 844
Bn, any chance you would post your daytime setting?
post #188 of 844
I do watch a fair share of older 4:3 material , after burn i'n time am I scewed if I watch it native, my set wontzoom full size , only partialk
post #189 of 844
With the setting here this set looks very nice, the blacks are pretty nice and the image very detailed. I'm just weary of watching 4:3 material after the 200 hour break in, has anyone watch alot of 4:3 on this set...
post #190 of 844
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Originally Posted by Scarpad View Post

With the setting here this set looks very nice, the blacks are pretty nice and the image very detailed. I'm just weary of watching 4:3 material after the 200 hour break in, has anyone watch alot of 4:3 on this set...

I always zoom in when watching 4/3 because I had a LCD for 4 years and never zoomed in to fill screen so during different scenes I see two lines on the tv and it's LCD so I would on every tv I own now LCD or plasma
post #191 of 844
I'n serving my 4:3 material via an Apple TV 2 and no matter what ratio setting I use I cannot get full screen, might have to do with the ATV outputting only 720p the tv can't seem to zoom from that.
post #192 of 844
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Originally Posted by ksand1956 View Post

I have some image retention of the settings menu. Not sure if it was there originally. Can someone tell me where to find the screen wash feature. Also is there any way to have black or dark gray sidebars on 4:3 material?

i'm also wanting to know where to find the screen wash feature? anyone? thanks.
post #193 of 844
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Originally Posted by indarkpurity View Post
i'm also wanting to know where to find the screen wash feature? anyone? thanks.
Hi,

Load up the menu, go to Option->ISM Method then scroll down to Color wash or white wash. I normally run a color wash every now and then for about a minute.

emmsys
post #194 of 844
I'm wondering if I cannot zoom 4:3 material because I have my sources first into an onkyo receiver then out to the plasma
post #195 of 844
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Originally Posted by Scarpad View Post
I'm wondering if I cannot zoom 4:3 material because I have my sources first into an onkyo receiver then out to the plasma
You can't fully zoom the letter bars on 4:3 content at all on this set.
post #196 of 844
I've seem to have forgotten about adding people on PSN from here. If you'd like to join me for a few games. Add JukeBox360
post #197 of 844
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post
You can't fully zoom the letter bars on 4:3 content at all on this set.
I wish I had known that, the various ratio settings basically do nothing. I watch alot of older shows, so even 200 hours from now if I watch a 4:3 show nativelly I'm in Danger of ruining this set, that really sucks
post #198 of 844
The 4:3 tv shows on dvd that I watch in 16:9 fill the whole screen.
LL
post #199 of 844
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Originally Posted by emmsys View Post

Hi,

Load up the menu, go to Option->ISM Method then scroll down to Color wash or white wash. I normally run a color wash every now and then for about a minute.

emmsys

thanks alot found it.
post #200 of 844
I thought I was going crazy because I swore that blurays, especially dark scenes did not have that "POP" that my HD satellite does, and my shadow detail seemed off, even though my pludge pattern tests seemed fine. I have been playing around for about a week trying this and that, even turned on dynamic contrast which seemed to help a little bit. I also changed the PS3 to RGB full, etc. but no real changes. Then I decided to turn off 24p on the PS3 and blurays at 60hz are certainly brighter and shadow detail seems much better, however I lose the smooth panning. I finally changed my gamma to high from medium and re-calibrated to compensate, and it seems better so far.

Anyone else notice this? Not a huge deal, but I certainly noticed it.


Hmm, just found this while searching.......: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1311386
post #201 of 844
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Originally Posted by lifesun View Post

I thought I was going crazy because I swore that blurays, especially dark scenes did not have that "POP" that my HD satellite does, and my shadow detail seemed off, even though my pludge pattern tests seemed fine. I have been playing around for about a week trying this and that, even turned on dynamic contrast which seemed to help a little bit. I also changed the PS3 to RGB full, etc. but no real changes. Then I decided to turn off 24p on the PS3 and blurays at 60hz are certainly brighter and shadow detail seems much better, however I lose the smooth panning. I finally changed my gamma to high from medium and re-calibrated to compensate, and it seems better so far.

Anyone else notice this? Not a huge deal, but I certainly noticed it.


Hmm, just found this while searching.......: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1311386

Ps3 should be set to limited. Not full. Gamma should almost always be medium on this set. I believe this set does not have the 24p problems you've posted the link to.

As for shadow detail. This set has horrid black level. Which means in the end. Dark content will never look as good as it should. I try to fully avoid watching any movies like the dark knight on this set.
post #202 of 844
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Ps3 should be set to limited. Not full. Gamma should almost always be medium on this set. I believe this set does not have the 24p problems you've posted the link to.

As for shadow detail. This set has horrid black level. Which means in the end. Dark content will never look as good as it should. I try to fully avoid watching any movies like the dark knight on this set.

True, black level is not the greatest, however, I notice a huge improvement in picture quality even in dark scenes when viewing my HD satellite as opposed to PS3 bluray. Its very strange because pludge and other test patterns seem OK, but movies seem darker and lose detail compared to satellite. Both devices are using HDMI and I have calibrated both sources. I normally have my PS3 set to ycbcr, RGB limited and superwhite on, I was just trying different things until I stumbled onto the 24p issue. The other interesting thing is that with gamma set to high on PS3 it seem better, however, with gamma set to high on my 60hz satellite feed I can't get it to look right, even with additional calibration.

I would love to have someone else test this to see if its just my set. Just to recap, I have a noticeably "punchier" and less washed out picture with better shadow detail if I feed the set a 1080p60 signal rather than a 1080p24 signal. When I have time, I am going to experiment more and see if I notice any motion issues leaving it on 60hz.
post #203 of 844
New owner of 50pv400
I am not impressed with shadow detail on this tv. Being a plasma, I thought it would have better shadow detail than a mid-range led/lcd (47inch about same price). Was I wrong?

I am also wondering why I cant access some of the advanced controls in picture settings (gama and black level are two of them).

I have read the entire thread and still can not figure out exactly what is the difference between pv400 and pv450.

On the postitive, I must say, sports look awesome on this tv!
post #204 of 844
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Originally Posted by smacket View Post

New owner of 50pv400
I am not impressed with shadow detail on this tv. Being a plasma, I thought it would have better shadow detail than a mid-range led/lcd (47inch about same price). Was I wrong?

I am also wondering why I cant access some of the advanced controls in picture settings (gama and black level are two of them).

I have read the entire thread and still can not figure out exactly what is the difference between pv400 and pv450.

On the postitive, I must say, sports look awesome on this tv!

Sports do look great. I love watching football on this set. But as I've said before. I try to avoid black content on this set because it overall just sucks. But what can you expect from such a huge set for a cheap price....
post #205 of 844
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Originally Posted by lifesun View Post
True, black level is not the greatest, however, I notice a huge improvement in picture quality even in dark scenes when viewing my HD satellite as opposed to PS3 bluray. Its very strange because pludge and other test patterns seem OK, but movies seem darker and lose detail compared to satellite. Both devices are using HDMI and I have calibrated both sources. I normally have my PS3 set to ycbcr, RGB limited and superwhite on, I was just trying different things until I stumbled onto the 24p issue. The other interesting thing is that with gamma set to high on PS3 it seem better, however, with gamma set to high on my 60hz satellite feed I can't get it to look right, even with additional calibration.

I would love to have someone else test this to see if its just my set. Just to recap, I have a noticeably "punchier" and less washed out picture with better shadow detail if I feed the set a 1080p60 signal rather than a 1080p24 signal. When I have time, I am going to experiment more and see if I notice any motion issues leaving it on 60hz.

After more extensive testing, I have found that I can't see a difference in light output/blacks and shadow detail changing from 24p to 60. It turns out that the punchier picture that I was seeing was in fact due to a slight change in brightness and gamma when changing from 24p. I put my set back into 24p and re-calibrated with some better software this time and I am pretty happy now. The motion is much smoother with 24p being fed to this set so I am happy that I got the bugs worked out.

Overall, even though black level is pretty high, for what I paid and the fact that this plasma is so bright that day time viewing great for me, I am very happy with my purchase. Also, coming from an LCD before this, and a 4 year old 720p plasma before that, it was certainly an upgrade.
post #206 of 844
Very glad to hear that you like your set!
post #207 of 844
I am new to avs and like this fourm alot...i purchased this 60PV250 set on craigslist for $500..the lady was going thru a divorce and had listed it for sale...its only 1 month old..any ways was looking online and couldnt find any info about the PV250 till i looked at the fcc id# and it showed PV450...So I assume it is the same panel as the PV450..well i set the expert settings to Black Noir settings and have found that it was a slight orange color to it so i adjusted the color to C30 and turned off energy settings to off and it turns out to look great...i sold my 50" panasonic S30 for this 60"....and do notice the blacks arnt as deep as the panny but are close to it...do you guys think that giving up the 50" S30 for a 60" PV250/450 worth it...imo i think the pq is good but miss the black lvls. The tv has been broken in for 200hrs too..
post #208 of 844
Also forgot to add that i changed the white balanced to cool also...i think that with the settings posted by blacknoir and the color set to C30 and white balance set to cool it may look like 6500k settings and black lvls get blacker...any other calibration for PV250/450 owners would be great and appreciated...love this fourm
post #209 of 844
...Just made the trip to Costco yesterday and am now a proud owner ...This is my first venture into plasma coming from lcd...this this tv to be used for sports primarily...and I like what ive seen so far !!!!!!!
post #210 of 844
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Originally Posted by luv2putt View Post

...Just made the trip to Costco yesterday and am now a proud owner ...This is my first venture into plasma coming from lcd...this this tv to be used for sports primarily...and I like what ive seen so far !!!!!!!

It is a great set for sports. That's for sure.
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