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post #31 of 844
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Originally Posted by Ryansdad View Post

I picked up the LG 50PV450 this past Saturday, went in to Fry's looking for a 720p plasma for my sons old room. They had this one on sale 200 less than any other place even cheaper than the LG 720 model.

Well at checkout the sales guy asked if I didn't mind getting the one on display, they had opened it by mistake this past week and they had one already on display for a few months now and so they don't need two of the same style. He would knock out enough to give me the 4 year warranty for the price of 3 and also some cleaners, so figured why not sounded like a good deal and since I never owned a plasma I wouldn’t take a chance and got warranty for it.

Brought the TV home hooked it up turned it on and decided to clean the screen, as I got close to it I started to noticed sort of like cracks inside the screen wasn’t sure what it was turned out it was burn in. I realized that when it was on display they had it hooked up to a Blu-ray with some movie that was at the menu screen, as I looked for the menu icons of the movie they were burned in as well. I decided to keep it for a week see what happens if it goes away.... so far I had another bad experience when my son played a game for about 10 or 15 minutes afterwards I got burn in from that as well.

Is there a way I can check the number of hours that TV has been on?


Not sure about checking the hours, but I would be strongly considering returning it, as I'm sure you are. I've gamed on my set numerous times for a few hours and have not noticed even a hint of IR. If it comes down to it you can go get it at costco for a few more bucks and get their famed service and support and return policy.
post #32 of 844
Thanks for the settings, will give it a try. Enjoying this TV for about a week now (couldn't pass up the sale price at Fry's) even w/o really calibrating it...I have it set on "Cinema" mode and picture looks very good.

Take Care

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Originally Posted by rapstar1983 View Post

Finally got my 60PV450 yesterday! As soon as I turned it on I went into settings and applied the calibration settings that I found for the PK550 series. I cant believe how great this TV is! Its in our downstairs room that has a sliding door off to our deck and there was almost no issues with glare (TV is about 5 feet from the sliding door). Picture is breath taking compared to the 62" 720p Toshiba DLP it replaced. Only a few hours on it last night (HD content through DirecTV and 2 hours of Planet Earth blu-ray) but I definitely plan on getting a few more hours in tonight.

Here are the settings I used:

post #33 of 844
I heard you can just use the Whiet Wash to do the breakin on this TV? is that true? Has anyone done that?
post #34 of 844
those are the worst settings I ever try on my pk550 long time ago.this settings are been criticize all over the pk550 thread plus you cant use last year calibration with this year pv series sorry but people shouldnt use that calibration... is not recommend.
post #35 of 844
losservatore,

So do you have a good calibrated setting to share?

Thanks.
post #36 of 844
I only posted the settings based on talk that the PV450 is basically replacing the PK550 and when comparing both on LG's website, they seem to be identical in terms of image processing and features. I will say that using those settings hasn't been an issue for me. I'm not a professional calibrator but everything I have watched looked amazing. The only thing that seems a bit off is the DirecTV guide menus. The color isnt exactly white on the lettering but other than that, everything looks great.

If someone has any settings that are better, please post them as I will definitely give them a try.

Another question though. The dual XD engines are on automatically correct? I was at Costco the other day and saw their version of this TV and it had a demo showing 2 imanges, 1 with dual XD "on" and 1 with the feature "off". Since there is no setting for this in the menus, I can only assume the demo meant to say "with" and "without".
post #37 of 844
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Originally Posted by belewmoon View Post

I just bought the LG 60PV450. However, before even taking it out of the box I had it shipped to Australia. I am back in the U.S. for 2 weeks & then heading back to AU.

Has anyone heard of any issues with this t.v. in the southern hemisphere?

Where I live there are numerous Yanks so we have most bases covered. We have power converters if needed. My house also has a few 110v power outlets. I'm thinking I'll get a plug converter & plug it into a 240v outlet that way I don't have to worry about the frequency (50/60).

I currently have a U.S. spec 42" lcd & there are numerous others who have U.S. spec t.v.'s so I'm not too worried.

I like what I'm reading so far. Sounds like a great t.v. especially for the price I got it for. Got it at a B+M for an online price!

I have been using US 60PK550 in southern hemisphere (basically same specs as AU, PAL 50Hz etc...). As for plugging it in, the PK550 had no problem since it was rated for 110v-240v (50/60), and I believe the PV450 is the same. However, it does not support 50Hz material which is the majority of TV viewing and most DVD's in your region. Blu Rays will play at 1080/24p so they should be just fine, along with most video games (if you are using XBOX360 or PS3) should play at 1080p/60Hz or 720p/60Hz.

As for the 50Hz material and content (DVD's and TV), you'll need a 50-60Hz HDMI Scaler such as the Atlona AT-HD560. They work fine (not perfect, but honestly having used the scaler, I don't notice any problem or difference with picture or viewing when upscaling form 50Hz to 60Hz. Looks just fine and quality is great as far as I'm concerned). On that note, if you play DVDs through an Xbox360, it automatically up-scales them to 60hz from 50Hz (PS3 doesn't do this, I've only seen it with Xbox360). So I use my Xbox360 watch DVDs and once again, and they look great. Also, depending on your satellite decoder, it may even support 60Hz up-scaling (I know some older models of HD Satellite decoders supported this feature, but not the new ones, so you can check with manufacturer, this will save you from having to get an up-scaler if the decoder can do it automatically via firmware)

Hope this helps. Good luck!
post #38 of 844
I bought the PV450 during the recent BestBuy sale in Canada, but have not received it yet. Someone on Newegg recommended the settings below, thoughts?

1. Turn off the "energy save"

2. Use 'expert' mode:
contrast: 90
brightness: 50
H Sharp: 50
V Sharp: 50
Color: 70
Tint: 0
Expert mode:
Dynamic contrast: High
Noise Reduction: Off
Gamma: High
Black Level: Low (Yes, Low!)
Film Mode: Off
Edge Enhancer: Off
White Balance: Medium
Method: 20 Point IRE
Pattern: Outer
IRE: 5
Red: 9
Green: 0
Blue: 10
Color Management System: All values = 0
post #39 of 844
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Originally Posted by hamidf View Post

I bought the PV450 during the recent BestBuy sale in Canada, but have not received it yet. Someone on Newegg recommended the settings below, thoughts?

1. Turn off the "energy save"

2. Use 'expert' mode:
contrast: 90
brightness: 50
H Sharp: 50
V Sharp: 50
Color: 70
Tint: 0
Expert mode:
Dynamic contrast: High
Noise Reduction: Off
Gamma: High
Black Level: Low (Yes, Low!)
Film Mode: Off
Edge Enhancer: Off
White Balance: Medium
Method: 20 Point IRE
Pattern: Outer
IRE: 5
Red: 9
Green: 0
Blue: 10
Color Management System: All values = 0

Looks like this seeting is missig the remianing 19 points IRE. It only has IRE=5. Do you have the link to the newegg post?
post #40 of 844
So I've decided to get my TV professionally calibrated. I found a link to a calibrator in my area and have setup an appointment on 7/30. I must apologize for the settings I posted earlier, they are absolutely terrible. Simply switching back to "cinema" mode has made viewing much better. With the settings I posted previously, nothing was white in the DirecTV guide menus. At least now everything looks as it should and the picture does look better.

Now I just can't wait to get it professionally calibrated to really get the best color detail. Still working on break-in at this point. Been running the color slides from a break-in DVD overnight being careful of only running full screen HD content in the evenings. Just about 50 hours in at this point.
post #41 of 844
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Originally Posted by rapstar1983 View Post

So I've decided to get my TV professionally calibrated. I found a link to a calibrator in my area and have setup an appointment on 7/30. I must apologize for the settings I posted earlier, they are absolutely terrible. Simply switching back to "cinema" mode has made viewing much better. With the settings I posted previously, nothing was white in the DirecTV guide menus. At least now everything looks as it should and the picture does look better.

Now I just can't wait to get it professionally calibrated to really get the best color detail. Still working on break-in at this point. Been running the color slides from a break-in DVD overnight being careful of only running full screen HD content in the evenings. Just about 50 hours in at this point.

Hi, rapstar,

I have been running the color clides too and also watching many many hours of Planet Earth. I noticed a dramatic picture quality improvement after about 20 hours use. The color is incredible now and I esepcially like the smoothness of the scenes, at times I feel I was sitting in a movie theater instead of a TV. Coming from a Sony LCD, this is the biggest improvement I noticed.

I have been using Big Brad's setting off PK550 thread. It's not perfect and has some red/purple push. I wonder if you could share your setting after the professional calibration?

Thanks.
post #42 of 844
D-Nice did a calibration on my 50PV400 last week. See attached calibration reports.

Overall, the settings in ISF-Day (Expert 1) show a little bit of orange in the skin tones..it doesn't look "oompa-loompa", but if you accidentally have it set to ISF-Day at night, you can definitely tell. ISF-Night (Expert 2) looks the best, even during the day.

If anyone is interested, I can send/post settings as well.

-Bn

 

50PV400 Post Claibration Report (Expert 1).pdf 149.0341796875k . file

 

50PV400 Pre Claibration Report (Expert 1).pdf 152.71875k . file

 

50PV400 Post Claibration Report (Expert 2).pdf 148.1171875k . file
post #43 of 844
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Originally Posted by Blacknoir View Post

D-Nice did a calibration on my 50PV400 last week. See attached calibration reports.

Overall, the settings in ISF-Day (Expert 1) show a little bit of orange in the skin tones..it doesn't look "oompa-loompa", but if you accidentally have it set to ISF-Day at night, you can definitely tell. ISF-Night (Expert 2) looks the best, even during the day.

If anyone is interested, I can send/post settings as well.

-Bn

I'd like to see the settings...thanks!
post #44 of 844
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacknoir View Post

D-Nice did a calibration on my 50PV400 last week. See attached calibration reports.

Overall, the settings in ISF-Day (Expert 1) show a little bit of orange in the skin tones..it doesn't look "oompa-loompa", but if you accidentally have it set to ISF-Day at night, you can definitely tell. ISF-Night (Expert 2) looks the best, even during the day.

If anyone is interested, I can send/post settings as well.

-Bn

Yes, please. I'd love to see your settings. TIA.
post #45 of 844
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Originally Posted by wilsonzhang2005 View Post
I heard you can just use the Whiet Wash to do the breakin on this TV? is that true? Has anyone done that?
This is directly from the owner's manual page 81 : "Whi te Wash: White Wash removes
ghost images from the screen. Use sparingly.
Watch the TV normally for a while
before using this feature to see if the
ghost image disappears on its own."

I'm not sure why it is to be used sparingly but I would imagine that you would not want to use this feature to break in your TV.

I also 3rd the request for your settings to be posted blacknoir they would be much appreciated.
post #46 of 844
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Originally Posted by wilsonzhang2005 View Post
I wonder if you could share your setting after the professional calibration?

Thanks.
Like I said, the calibration will not be until 7/30, but I can definitely post the results/settings once completed.
post #47 of 844
Just purchase this tv from Costco I went through 3 different led sets one with 3d. All 3 had horrible off angle viewing had to sit right dead center or colors will fade. Bad motion problems and flashlighting in corners. For the price I was spending it was killing me that my old LCD looked better. So I took the gamble with this set never had plasma before. Picture not as bright as led but more natural better motion great off angle viewing and less then half the price. I'm very happy with this tv don't no why company's are putting out this new LEDs when there horrible only thin and bright for allot more money.Thx to Costco I'm not stuck with a picture that's bright thin and alot of money!!!!!
post #48 of 844
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacknoir View Post

D-Nice did a calibration on my 50PV400 last week. See attached calibration reports.

Overall, the settings in ISF-Day (Expert 1) show a little bit of orange in the skin tones..it doesn't look "oompa-loompa", but if you accidentally have it set to ISF-Day at night, you can definitely tell. ISF-Night (Expert 2) looks the best, even during the day.

If anyone is interested, I can send/post settings as well.

-Bn

Please post settings thx
post #49 of 844
Hey all, I have the LG 50PV400. I just tried to adjust my settings with the Disney WOW Blu-Ray disk and it made my picture look really washed out and white. It made it so when there was a black screen, it would be gray.

What did people put as their brightness and contrast settings? That's where I have the most trouble. Thanks.

I might get my set calibrated but I'll have to see if I'm satisfied or not after adjusting the settings. To the person above who got their set calibrated, could you please post your settings? Thanks.

First post!
post #50 of 844
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacknoir View Post

If anyone is interested, I can send/post settings as well.

All,

Will post settings later on tonight.

-Bn
post #51 of 844
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HueManatee View Post

Hey all, I have the LG 50PV400. I just tried to adjust my settings with the Disney WOW Blu-Ray disk and it made my picture look really washed out and white. It made it so when there was a black screen, it would be gray.

What did people put as their brightness and contrast settings? That's where I have the most trouble. Thanks.

I might get my set calibrated but I'll have to see if I'm satisfied or not after adjusting the settings. To the person above who got their set calibrated, could you please post your settings? Thanks.

First post!


That discouraging. I just ordered the WOW blu-ray. Oh well. Such is life.
post #52 of 844
Hey guys this tv comes with a picture wizard in the menus it helps adjust contrast brightness ect. to the right settings made my picture look much better with the adjustments. it's a pv400 from Costco don't no if the 450 is missing this feature
post #53 of 844
As promised...here are my ISF-Night settings (Expert 2)

Contrast: 77
Brightness: 53
H. Sharp: 39
V. Sharp: 50
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Color Temp: W30

Dynamic Contrast: Off
Noise Reduction: Off
Gamma: Medium
Black Level: Low
Film Mode: On
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancement: Off
White Balance: Warm
Method: 20 Point IRE
Pattern: Outer

IRE R G B RC RT GC GT BC BT YC YT CC CT MC MT
5: 0 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
10: -16 0 -36 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
15: 0 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
20:-17 -13 -34 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
25: -9 0 -37 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
30: -6 9 -29 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
35: 0 0 -13 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
40: 9 17 -25 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
45: 0 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
50: -10 0 -42 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
55: -18 0 -10 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
60: 15 20 -37 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
65: -18 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
70: 5 30 -31 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
75: -9 9 -29 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
80: -6 19 -50 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
85: 0 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
90: -8 16 -9 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
95: 0 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
100: -5 0 -24 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
post #54 of 844
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacknoir View Post

As promised...here are my ISF-Night settings (Expert 2)

Contrast: 77
Brightness: 53
H. Sharp: 39
V. Sharp: 50
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Color Temp: W30

Dynamic Contrast: Off
Noise Reduction: Off
Gamma: Medium
Black Level: Low
Film Mode: On
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancement: Off
White Balance: Warm
Method: 20 Point IRE
Pattern: Outer

IRE R G B RC RT GC GT BC BT YC YT CC CT MC MT
5: 0 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
10: -16 0 -36 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
15: 0 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
20:-17 -13 -34 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
25: -9 0 -37 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
30: -6 9 -29 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
35: 0 0 -13 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
40: 9 17 -25 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
45: 0 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
50: -10 0 -42 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
55: -18 0 -10 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
60: 15 20 -37 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
65: -18 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
70: 5 30 -31 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
75: -9 9 -29 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
80: -6 19 -50 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
85: 0 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
90: -8 16 -9 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
95: 0 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
100: -5 0 -24 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10

Thanks, Blacknoir,

I believe Color Management Setting is the same for all 20 points. I don't see Color Temp: W30 on my PV450 though. Hmmm...

Will give your setting a try tonight to watch Tron Legacy and will report back.
post #55 of 844
Quote:
Originally Posted by wilsonzhang2005 View Post

Thanks, Blacknoir,

I believe Color Management Setting is the same for all 20 points. I don't see Color Temp: W30 on my PV450 though. Hmmm...

Will give your setting a try tonight to watch Tron Legacy and will report back.

I don't either. I only see Color Temp when I'm in any other mode besides Expert.

Not only that, I can't change Film Mode because it's grayed out.

Since I wasn't able to do those two, I changed Color Gamut to Wide and White Balance to Medium. It looks really great now. If there are any more tips please add them! Thanks!
post #56 of 844
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacknoir View Post

As promised...here are my ISF-Night settings (Expert 2)

Contrast: 77
Brightness: 53
H. Sharp: 39
V. Sharp: 50
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Color Temp: W30

Dynamic Contrast: Off
Noise Reduction: Off
Gamma: Medium
Black Level: Low
Film Mode: On
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancement: Off
White Balance: Warm
Method: 20 Point IRE
Pattern: Outer

IRE R G B RC RT GC GT BC BT YC YT CC CT MC MT
5: 0 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
10: -16 0 -36 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
15: 0 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
20:-17 -13 -34 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
25: -9 0 -37 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
30: -6 9 -29 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
35: 0 0 -13 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
40: 9 17 -25 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
45: 0 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
50: -10 0 -42 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
55: -18 0 -10 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
60: 15 20 -37 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
65: -18 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
70: 5 30 -31 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
75: -9 9 -29 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
80: -6 19 -50 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
85: 0 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
90: -8 16 -9 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
95: 0 0 0 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10
100: -5 0 -24 0 -1 -6 0 -8 0 -5 11 -2 -2 -3 -10

I gotta' figure out how to turn the film mode back on. haha. It's grayed out now in most of my profiles, but I know it was on at one point.
post #57 of 844
Quote:
Originally Posted by wilsonzhang2005 View Post

Thanks, Blacknoir,

I believe Color Management Setting is the same for all 20 points. I don't see Color Temp: W30 on my PV450 though. Hmmm...

Will give your setting a try tonight to watch Tron Legacy and will report back.

In order to get to Color Temp, select Tint (so it shows up at the bottom of the screen), then hit down. It's a "hidden" option.
post #58 of 844
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacknoir View Post

In order to get to Color Temp, select Tint (so it shows up at the bottom of the screen), then hit down. It's a "hidden" option.

Hi, Blacknoir,

Yes, I figured out the Color Temp setting last night. I put in your setting and watched part of Tron Legacy. I have to say your setting is an improvement over Big Brad's. There is no red/purple push and I see more shadow details and black level is excellent(if you have watched Tron Legacy you know its scenes are very challenging). The picture is even more enjoyable now.

A big thank you for shring the settings. Do you mind sharing the day time setting as well?
post #59 of 844
Quote:
Originally Posted by corpraider View Post

I gotta' figure out how to turn the film mode back on. haha. It's grayed out now in most of my profiles, but I know it was on at one point.

raider,

The film mode is on when the content is in certain formats, such as 1080p, 1080i. Film mode will be greyed out if it's 720P and other formats.
post #60 of 844
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wilsonzhang2005 View Post

raider,

The film mode is on when the content is in certain formats, such as 1080p, 1080i. Film mode will be greyed out if it's 720P and other formats.

Thanks man. I'll have to mess with it on some blu-rays. I definitely thought the last blu-ray I watched had the "soap opera" effect. Which is aptly named. I don't know that I disliked it, but it was almost like you're looking through a window at the charaters or something. A bit disconcerting. Maybe it was just the higher 1080p resolution.
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