The Audyssey Pro Installer Kit Thread (FAQ in post #1) - Page 83

Ah right. Thanks. Even I can manage that

"It is also the range where hearing loss starts to set in. If that is happening then an added midrange compensation dip will not be needed."

So, THAT is why I leave it off... One of the blessings(?) of getting old!

Thanks to all who encouraged me to get the levels corrected in my system. Putting the attenuators in and getting everything "trued-up" made a significant improvement in the perceived FR and surround envelopment with DEQ on.

Great to hear!

Using the direct cable method, you need to setup Static address in BOTH the Integta & the computer that you are using. (You are no longer using DHCP to obtain the addresses)

Why in the computer ?

Both devices will need a static IP set.

As an update to my issue, we were finally able to establish and maintain communication between my Integra and the Audyssey software.

The problem was that I have a Control4 system that kept breaking the link between the Integra and the Audyssey software. Once we turned Control4 off, the link was established and stayed up for the entire calibration.

Thanks for all the help.

No really. All I do is make the connections and go to setup, hardware, network and write down the address of the Integra, then enter it in Pro. Whether DHCP is still on through the process is immaterial. No settings need be changed. It works just fine.

Agreed, if you did not turn off the Integra & the computer and just disconnected the original cables and connected the single linking cable the address would be retained.

Uh oh.... here we go... it's never as simple with a PC as it seems. I know how to set the static address in my 5509. How do I do it in a PC? (I am usually a Mac user).

Windoze 7? Control Panel|Network and Sharing .. change adapter settings.

Double-click on your LAN connection icon - click Properties. Highlight "Internet Protocol Version 4" and click Properties. (Or double-click IP V4.)

Click "Use the following IP address" and enter the IP address.

I'm not sure it matters what the four sets of numbers are, but typically 192.168. are used for the first two. Try 192.168.123.xxx where you use a different fourth set for each of the two devices, i.e. 1 and 2. No leading zeros, though you could use 10, 100 or 101.

Subnet mask - 255.255.255.0

Try leaving Default Gateway blank.

Leave the DNS fields blank.

Tip: Buy a cheap router, use two ethernet cables and let it dynamically assign IP address.

In my experience, it should not be necessary. As a precaution, turn the 5509 off and on again with DHCP on. it worked just fine the first time for me on an Integra 80.1.

It is not the device that assigns itself an IP address, it is the Dynamic Host Controller and that is in the router. No router, no DHCP.

If it was networked at one time (with a router), then perhaps there is a residual IP address that it retains, but I don't know that.

Thanks Jeff. I will try it.


That's how I have been doing it, with an old router I had lying around. I just thought that the one cable idea seems easier and neater. I can leave the cable permanently hanging out the back of the 5509 and just connect to the lappy as required.

This would appear to be in conflict with Kal's observation here.

I suppose once you have manually assigned an IP address to the 5509, that wouldn't need to be done again. But the laptop probably normally is on DHCP, so you'd need to configure it manually every time. To me, the router, DHCP and two cable - wham, bam, thank you, ma'am - seems easier.

Jeff

That comment is related to midrange compensation? I didn't get that, bit I am ready to receive enlightenment.

Jeff

The thing with age-related higher frequency hearing loss is that those affected don't notice it. I have it for sure but I don't notice that I can't hear those high frequencies except in an audiometry test at the audiologist's. I guess the harmonics and fundamentals of the frequencies enable us to 'fill in' the part we cannot hear explicitly. Our brain adapts IOW. So if we then EQ the FR, this will give a disconnect between the real world and the audio system - possibly making the audio system sound 'wrong'. If I am right, then Chris is, er, wrong

"Higher frequency" isn't in the midcomp range, and that is the source of my uncertainty ...

Chris asserted that the hearing loss starts in the range where midcomp kicks in.

Yes, he did. But I always thought it was the highs that go first. FWIW, I prefer the midcomp ON. The one female vocal we listened to, Chaka Khan, sounded terrible w/o it.

Jeff

Is the mid comp. Active when not using the pro, but doing measurements with mic that comes with the denon?

Or is this feature only a PRO option?

Thanks

Turning ot off is only an option with Pro. It is built into the Audyssey curve on the consumer version of MulEQ (and not defeatable).

Sure thing. For me, the last really great highs were in the 60's


I've not even tried messing with it. Just left it on, as per the concensus. One less thing to fiddle with.

For my Montis with no xover from mid to high, I leave it off. For all my other speakers I then put in a 3db dip at the mid to high xover point. Chris had said in his blog that the point of mid comp was to correct a problem with this xover and voices.

This approach can only be done using Pro.

My approach seems to work fine in my setting.

Eh, what? I can't hear you.

Some consonants are spoken without the vocal cords, and therefore are speaker independent. These fall within the range that is being discussed.

See http://www.hdhearing.com/learning/part2.htm

I wouldn't mind for my normal, age-related hearing loss to progress a bit...I seem to be getting more sensitive to high frequencies as I age. A few dB attenuation in my ears above 5kHz and I wouldn't have even needed the pro kit!