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post #3691 of 4227
12/30/12 at 10:48am
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Originally Posted by weird 23 View Post

Can a different Serial to USB cable be used other than the supplied one in the Pro Kit?

The supplied cable is really short and it would be nice to be able to use a longer one.

I've used an inexpensive 10 meter USB extender from Monoprice which has a signal booster built in to enable the 30 foot USB length. No drivers needed. Works perfectly with Audyssey Pro. Here's a link: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030312&p_id=6149&seq=1&format=2
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post #3692 of 4227
12/30/12 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

You can extend the cable with an RS232 straight-through cable.  You can, also, use another serial-to-USB adapter/cable.  I have used a cheap Walmart adapter for years with Audyssey and Meridian.

Kal, is it better to extend the USB or serial portions of this? Would one degrade the signal less?

Jeff
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post #3693 of 4227
12/30/12 at 11:42am
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post


Kal, is it better to extend the USB or serial portions of this? Would one degrade the signal less?
Jeff

 

Not Kal, but FWIW, SR303 reported timeout errors with a USB extension cable in this post:  http://www.avsforum.com/t/1346723/the-audyssey-pro-installer-kit-thread-faq-in-post-1/3660#post_22757071.  Just a data point...

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post #3694 of 4227
12/30/12 at 11:56am
^^^ Interesting. Wonder why one would use an extension if it wasn't needed ... ?
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post #3695 of 4227
12/30/12 at 12:11pm
For me using the USB extension was a matter of convenience given the location and accessibility of my equipment.

I was using a 16ft Gigawire USB 2.0 extension on a Vista 64 laptop running MultEQ Pro 3.6. I had used the extension in other applications with no problem. All I know I was getting the error I previously reported with the extension (right after selecting the COM port). I removed the extension and no error.
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post #3696 of 4227
12/30/12 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

You can extend the cable with an RS232 straight-through cable.  You can, also, use another serial-to-USB adapter/cable.  I have used a cheap Walmart adapter for years with Audyssey and Meridian.

Kal, is it better to extend the USB or serial portions of this? Would one degrade the signal less?

Jeff

Not Kal here but the rated max length for USB 2.0 (running at Hi Speed (480 Mbit/s)) is 5 meters (about 16 feet). That's why anything beyond this length needs a signal booster of some sort. Audyssey Pro USB connectors I'm pretty sure are USB 2.0. Again the USB extender I linked to above has worked flawlessly for me with Audyssey Pro versions 3.4 - 3.6. I've never experienced any time outs using Windows 7 or Win XP.
Edited by IceTBC - 12/30/12 at 1:11pm
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post #3697 of 4227
12/30/12 at 1:50pm
^^^

I am soooo glad my 5508 connects via ethernet. I have started reloading cals from my computer room not even needing to be in the home theater anymore.. I might even load Pro onto my main rig and not need to fire up the laptop.
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post #3698 of 4227
12/30/12 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post


Kal, is it better to extend the USB or serial portions of this? Would one degrade the signal less?
Jeff

In my experience (which is limited and specific), I would probably extend the serial portion.  I  have used 25' serial connections without any problem but USBs (passive, no booster) longer than about 15' have been chancy.

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post #3699 of 4227
1/4/13 at 4:39am

So I finally got around to attempting to run Audyessy Pro, having a few problems. I'm using the Integra DHC 80.2, when the product your trying to calibrate screen comes up the 80.2 is not available as a choice. Tried using the Intgera AVR Interface with no success. 

 

I've got the mic pre amp hooked up to the left PC input.

 

All I keep getting are the timed out messages.

 

Any help would be much appreciated.

 

Complete noob at using Audyessy Pro, the documentation really isn't very well done with this product.

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post #3700 of 4227
1/4/13 at 5:58am
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by IceTBC View Post

Not Kal here but the rated max length for USB 2.0 (running at Hi Speed (480 Mbit/s)) is 5 meters (about 16 feet). That's why anything beyond this length needs a signal booster of some sort. Audyssey Pro USB connectors I'm pretty sure are USB 2.0. Again the USB extender I linked to above has worked flawlessly for me with Audyssey Pro versions 3.4 - 3.6. I've never experienced any time outs using Windows 7 or Win XP.

weird23, in addition to the above, here is an inexpensive but good quality serial-to-usb active extension (amplification) 10m repeater cable that works perfectly with my Denon A100/4311. It allows me to easily keep the laptop out of the HT room.
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post #3701 of 4227
1/4/13 at 8:25am
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Originally Posted by weird 23 View Post

So I finally got around to attempting to run Audyessy Pro, having a few problems. I'm using the Integra DHC 80.2, when the product your trying to calibrate screen comes up the 80.2 is not available as a choice. Tried using the Intgera AVR Interface with no success. 

 

I've got the mic pre amp hooked up to the left PC input.

 

All I keep getting are the timed out messages.

 

Any help would be much appreciated.

 

Complete noob at using Audyessy Pro, the documentation really isn't very well done with this product.

 

I see several Integra choices.  Not being familiar with Integra, I am not sure which is appropriate.  call Audyssey tech support.

 

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post #3702 of 4227
1/4/13 at 8:47am
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

 

I see several Integra choices.  Not being familiar with Integra, I am not sure which is appropriate.  call Audyssey tech support.

 

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I use Integra AVR Interface 2 with my 80.2.  It is network-based, not direct wired.

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post #3703 of 4227
1/4/13 at 9:40am
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

I use Integra AVR Interface 2 with my 80.2.  It is network-based, not direct wired.

And Onk 2 works with my sister 5508.
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post #3704 of 4227
1/8/13 at 1:05pm
Ups, old post, Deleted
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post #3705 of 4227
1/8/13 at 1:16pm
For a second I thought the thread was alive again.....
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post #3706 of 4227
1/8/13 at 2:49pm
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Originally Posted by sdrucker View Post

For a second I thought the thread was alive again.....

Nope, we are having fun with REW for the time being...
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post #3707 of 4227
1/8/13 at 3:22pm
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

Nope, we are having fun with REW for the time being...

Not sure that "fun" is the operative term I'd use. Still, I hope to at least get where Keith's gotten in the next couple of days in his 'education'... smile.gif
(although we don't have any horses LOL)
Edited by sdrucker - 1/8/13 at 3:28pm
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post #3708 of 4227
1/12/13 at 5:52am
I'm a newbee to the Pro Kit.
My first month has expired and I want to reactivate my license, but I don't seem to be able to.
I signed into the Audyssey Portal page and clicked on the 'puchase/activate multi-eq pro license' and then clicked on the 'generate new key' link at the bottom of the page. It just keeps re-directing me back to that same page.

What am I doing wrong??

Tom
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post #3709 of 4227
1/12/13 at 6:32am
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

I'm a newbee to the Pro Kit.
My first month has expired and I want to reactivate my license, but I don't seem to be able to.
I signed into the Audyssey Portal page and clicked on the 'puchase/activate multi-eq pro license' and then clicked on the 'generate new key' link at the bottom of the page. It just keeps re-directing me back to that same page.

What am I doing wrong??

Tom

 

You probably didn't notice that the key number is now different to what it was before and has a new expiry date attached to it - it does come back to the same page, but with a new key.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just did it and my new key is that long number/letter string and the expiry date for that key is now 11 February 2013. Just copy and paste the key into a text file and then you can copy and paste it into the Pro software.

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post #3710 of 4227
1/12/13 at 6:36am
Wifi at 40,000 feet! On the plane to "refresh" my avatar!! wink.gif

Yes, Tom, check the expiration date. You could try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

Jeff
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post #3711 of 4227
1/12/13 at 7:57am
Thanks Kbarnes701.
You were exactly right. Don't know why I didn't notice that the 40 character key had changed.rolleyes.gif

A couple more questions.

When editing, what is the function of the check circles (1--12) to the right of the csv file?? It seems as if the changes are not applied unless the circles are highlited. Do all the circles 1-12 need to chosen??

Once an Audyssey solution is loaded into my 80.3, what effect (if any) does changing 'THX Ultra Sub' to 'Yes' ?? Does it effect the subs cross-over or cutoff ?? Does it not roll off the signal under 20hz??

Thanks,
Tom

BTW- I don't know how many times you have had to answer the 'new key' question in this thread, but I couldn't find any reference to it in the 1st post Q+A's. Maybe it would be worth adding.
Edited by tngiloy - 1/12/13 at 8:03am
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post #3712 of 4227
1/12/13 at 8:00am
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

Thanks Kbarnes701.
You were exactly right. Don't know why I didn't notice that the 40 character key had changed.rolleyes.gif

A couple more questions.

When editing, what is the function of the check circles (1--12) to the right of the csv file?? It seems as if the changes are not applied unless the circles are not highlited. Do all the circles 1-12 need to chosen??

Once a solution is loaded into my 80.3, what effect (if any) does changing 'THX Ultra Sub' to 'Yes' ?? Does it effect the subs cross-over or cutoff ?? Does it not roll off the signal under 20hz??

Thanks,
Tom

Not Keith, but the "circles" correspond to the channels in your system. Check the ones you would want your edited target curve to affect.

If you don't know what circle number is what system channel, refer back to the screen that you selected what channels were in your system.
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post #3713 of 4227
1/12/13 at 8:04am
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post


Once a solution is loaded into my 80.3, what effect (if any) does changing 'THX Ultra Sub' to 'Yes' ?? Does it effect the subs cross-over or cutoff ?? Does it not roll off the signal under 20hz??

AFAIK, it only tells the receiver/processor your sub has capability to 20Hz. As Audyssey actually measures, that setting seems unrelated to anything Audyssey does.
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post #3714 of 4227
1/12/13 at 8:48am
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Originally Posted by tngiloy View Post

Thanks Kbarnes701.
You were exactly right. Don't know why I didn't notice that the 40 character key had changed.rolleyes.gif

A couple more questions.

When editing, what is the function of the check circles (1--12) to the right of the csv file?? It seems as if the changes are not applied unless the circles are highlited. Do all the circles 1-12 need to chosen??

Once an Audyssey solution is loaded into my 80.3, what effect (if any) does changing 'THX Ultra Sub' to 'Yes' ?? Does it effect the subs cross-over or cutoff ?? Does it not roll off the signal under 20hz??

Thanks,
Tom

BTW- I don't know how many times you have had to answer the 'new key' question in this thread, but I couldn't find any reference to it in the 1st post Q+A's. Maybe it would be worth adding.

 

Jeff has given you the reply from 40,000 feet ;)  There is, coming soon, a tutorial on target curve editing which will explain all of this in detail and which will be added to the FAQ.

 

I don't know what the THX sub setting does, other than it has an impact on crossover slope AFAIK. Sorry.

 

You're the first to ask about the Key generation. If someone else asks, it will go in the FAQ :)

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post #3715 of 4227
1/12/13 at 8:57am
I've been using this 32 foot active USB extension with my 8801, several cals, never an error or timeout...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004AGX4YO/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i00
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post #3716 of 4227
1/12/13 at 9:33am
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Jeff has given you the reply from 40,000 feet wink.gif  There is, coming soon, a tutorial on target curve editing which will explain all of this in detail and which will be added to the FAQ.

I don't know what the THX sub setting does, other than it has an impact on crossover slope AFAIK. Sorry.

You're the first to ask about the Key generation. If someone else asks, it will go in the FAQ smile.gif
sitting on the runway waiting for a gate. Never pays to arrive early. I do have all of my files and screencaps along and hope to be able to finish that tutorial while hear.

Dropped my 5508 at the repair center last night before heading to an airport hotel. They said they are two weeks before it is even assigned to a tech. Bummer.

Jeff
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post #3717 of 4227
1/12/13 at 10:03am
I received my Audyssey Pro Installer Kit yesterday and attempted to register it today. When I entered the serial number it comes back as invalid. I ordered the kit from Perfect Home Theater's web page. Has anyone else experienced this? I haven't bought a license for my Denon AVP yet. Do I have buy a license before it accepts the serial number?
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post #3718 of 4227
1/12/13 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Jeff has given you the reply from 40,000 feet wink.gif  There is, coming soon, a tutorial on target curve editing which will explain all of this in detail and which will be added to the FAQ.

I don't know what the THX sub setting does, other than it has an impact on crossover slope AFAIK. Sorry.

You're the first to ask about the Key generation. If someone else asks, it will go in the FAQ smile.gif
sitting on the runway waiting for a gate. Never pays to arrive early. I do have all of my files and screencaps along and hope to be able to finish that tutorial while hear.

Dropped my 5508 at the repair center last night before heading to an airport hotel. They said they are two weeks before it is even assigned to a tech. Bummer.

Jeff

 

Ah - you're on the way there, not back.... you are, Jeff, as we Limeys say "a jammy b&$t&rd: :)  Enjoy!

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post #3719 of 4227
1/12/13 at 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by fperra View Post

I received my Audyssey Pro Installer Kit yesterday and attempted to register it today. When I entered the serial number it comes back as invalid. I ordered the kit from Perfect Home Theater's web page. Has anyone else experienced this? I haven't bought a license for my Denon AVP yet. Do I have buy a license before it accepts the serial number?

 

I believe you can use the MAC address as well.  Did you try that?  Otherwise, contact Audyssey for assistance.  And yes, you need to buy before you can activate...

 

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post #3720 of 4227
1/12/13 at 3:32pm
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sitting on the runway waiting for a gate. Never pays to arrive early. I do have all of my files and screencaps along and hope to be able to finish that tutorial while hear.

Dropped my 5508 at the repair center last night before heading to an airport hotel. They said they are two weeks before it is even assigned to a tech. Bummer.

Jeff

 Thinking the repair of my DHC-80.2 would take a long time, and I would be without, I purchased a DHC-80.3. The DHC-80.2 took only five days. (At the Regional Service Ctr., in Huntington Beach, CA)

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