Originally Posted by kbarnes701
...There'll no doubt be uproar if there are any Denon users reading this
You talkin to me
The comparison of one AVR or pre/pro to another is a complex task and subject to acoustic memory, variable mic placement for setup and other potential confounders. Such comparisons are also subject to unconscious and conscious bias, as none
of these were BAB tests and most if not all were prior Onkyo owners. That being said, I accept the possibility that there is something about the Onkyo DSP that several well-respected and experienced members prefer. I have no problem with that.
The decision as to what to buy is of course a personal one and each person's situation is different. Despite having moved steadily up the Denon chain to a AVR4310, I did not immediately jump to the 4311, despite drooling in anticipation of XT32, which I considered a significant advance in DSP RC and of particular value to me because my room is untreated. I was also determined to get a Pro-capable unit.
(Perfunctory on-topic reference
) The competition to Denon I considered was the Onk SC5508 and Integra 80.2. There seemed little to no rationale to justify the higher cost of the Int unit I strongly
considered the 5508 which is IMO a good deal at the usual US street of $1.5K or so, basically the same cost as the 4311. Keith's situation with the strret cost in his country is different. Now I sought out and was given some of the same Onkyo over Denon "preference" SQ opinion as has been posted here, which I respect but tempered with several other considrations, in addition to those I mentioned above.
First was the Denon's better reliability, as exemplified in the Onk/Integra Pro software debacle. This was no doubt part of the reason the A100 model was specifically recommended to me over Onk/Int by some respected experts, including one at Audyssey, for it's " more mature implementation".
Another big reason favoring the Denon AVR was specific to me and would not apply to Keith. As I have an Emotiva XPA5, a dedicated pre/pro separate would add the expense of acquiring at least 2 additional ext amp channels so I could continue to enjoy 7.2 DSX wides. (Currently I simply use 2 amps in the AVR for the DSXWides) So when I found a deal on an A100 for $1.5K, I made the executive decision to spend that amp$ instead on a Pro kit and license It's a matter of diminishing returns on dollars spent as one approaches the pinnacle of HT SQ and I consider it $ very well spent.