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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Don't know whether to laugh or cry. Both probably. smile.gif

. . . and we move on. It's like living in the twilight zone sometimes, your life before and now after with new adventures.
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Originally Posted by Kisakuku View Post

I didn't realize that all the contact information that I submitted when registering at the Audyssey site in order to buy a Pro license will be publicly available to anybody who does a search for a custom installer in my geographic area. This is great for real installers, not so great for end-users who buy the kit for their own use.

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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

As an enthusiast and NOT a commercial contractor, they will remove you from the database. At least that is what they did for me. Contact Pro tech support and ask.

Jeff

Thanks guys for pointing this out.I had them remove me off the list as well.I was wondering why I kept getting so many phone call hang-ups!tongue.gif
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Thread Starter 
^I wouldn't expect that'll make much diff. Probably an old flame. biggrin.gif
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Should Audyssey Pro ping each of my subs(2) separately for each measurement? I have a 5508.
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by mal01 View Post

Should Audyssey Pro ping each of my subs(2) separately for each measurement? I have a 5508.
Thanks.

 

When it is measuring position No 1 (MLP) it will ping Sub 1 independently, then ping Sub 2 independently (to set levels and distance/delay) and then thereafter it will ping subs 1 and 2 together...  so the answer to your question is "no - it pings them both together (as one) for each measurement other than the first".

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Thanks
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I purchased a used pro kit, and am wondering if I can pull a prior pro calibration off my AVR for possible re-loading. The calibration was performed by Mark Seaton, so I want to ensure I can re-load it, as It has a customized curve that I like. I am not sure I will be able to obtain the same result without a lot of "tutoring".

Thanks for any assistance.

Mark
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Thread Starter 
^Mark, your 4311 will allow you to store and recall as many calibrations as you like using the Network Save and Load feature, including your current and favorite cal. It even saves all custom settings, esssentially taking a snapshot of the AVR. And even if Seaton's cal is a Pro kit cal, it can be Loaded back up (even without use of the Pro kit).

Now that you have your own kit, once you've done some measurements with it, you can save those raw measurement data files and use them to construct custom Pro calibrations. As you experiment with the standard curves, varied xovers, MRC, etc you can label and Network Save each of those for easy reLoading and comparisons. Congrats and enjoy!
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Has anybody done a pro calibration with the Marantz 8801?
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

^Mark, your 4311 will allow you to store and recall as many calibrations as you like using the Network Save and Load feature, including your current and favorite cal. It even saves all custom settings, esssentially taking a snapshot of the AVR. And even if Seaton's cal is a Pro kit cal, it can be Loaded back up (even without use of the Pro kit).

Now that you have your own kit, once you've done some measurements with it, you can save those raw measurement data files and use them to construct custom Pro calibrations. As you experiment with the standard curves, varied xovers, MRC, etc you can label and Network Save each of those for easy reLoading and comparisons. Congrats and enjoy!

I guess I forgot about the Network Save feature, which gives me the tool I need.

Thanks!

Mark
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Originally Posted by jmschnur View Post

Has anybody done a pro calibration with the Marantz 8801?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by jmschnur View Post

Has anybody done a pro calibration with the Marantz 8801?
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Yes.
I have also done a pro calibration on my AV8801.
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

I guess I forgot about the Network Save feature, which gives me the tool I need.

Thanks!

Mark

You probably already know that the feature only allows a cal to be loaded, and not edited or changed in any way with MultiEQ Pro.

Jeff
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

I purchased a used pro kit, and am wondering if I can pull a prior pro calibration off my AVR for possible re-loading. The calibration was performed by Mark Seaton, so I want to ensure I can re-load it, as It has a customized curve that I like. I am not sure I will be able to obtain the same result without a lot of "tutoring".

Thanks for any assistance.

Mark

Perhaps Mark has the saved .AMD and .CSV files on his computer and would give them to you for your own use in Pro? I'd ask.

Jeff
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

You probably already know that the feature only allows a cal to be loaded, and not edited or changed in any way with MultiEQ Pro.

Jeff

Understood.
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Perhaps Mark has the saved .AMD and .CSV files on his computer and would give them to you for your own use in Pro? I'd ask.

Jeff

Good idea; it never hurts to ask.
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

Good idea; it never hurts to ask.

It will be interesting to see if he considers them his property since he is a professional selling a service.

Jeff
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Thread Starter 
^Interesting idea. Has anyone tried this-using files created with another mic and kit? Unlike what happens when you change the speaker config, it may not be disallowed and might work...
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It should not matter. The file format doesn't change. Although, from my using the software, different versions yielded different crossover offerings. So,if one "likes" what is offered with one version, that may be a reason to not muck with the AMD in a subsequent version.

Jeff
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I'm trying to run Pro and am getting a message saying that my firmware is not supported, my FW is up to date and I just ran Pro a few weeks ago with this FW, anyone else have this issue and if so ,what was the solution?
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Originally Posted by mal01 View Post

I'm trying to run Pro and am getting a message saying that my firmware is not supported, my FW is up to date and I just ran Pro a few weeks ago with this FW, anyone else have this issue and if so ,what was the solution?

I never hear of that error. What AVR do you have? You could try calling Audyssey tech support.
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5508.
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5508.
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Try pulling the plug and waiting 30 minutes.

If that does not work try a full reset.

Joel
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Will do, thanks!
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is there any link to a comparison between regular XT32 and Pro version?
I have Onkyo 3008 and am curious how better the system is going to get once it's upgraded into Pro version.
Thank you
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is there any link to a comparison between regular XT32 and Pro version?
I have Onkyo 3008 and am curious how better the system is going to get once it's upgraded into Pro version.
Thank you
post #4198 of 5250
No link, just testimonials from members who have used Pro on their XT32 kit. No one regrets it.

Jeff
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Originally Posted by narutium View Post

is there any link to a comparison between regular XT32 and Pro version?
I have Onkyo 3008 and am curious how better the system is going to get once it's upgraded into Pro version.
Thank you

 

If you read through this thread you will see that others have raised the same point. The general consensus is that Pro adds subtle but worthwhile improvements to an XT32 calibration. Pro also gives you more measuring positions (up to 32) which may be useful in very large rooms and it comes with a more accurate mic. It also features a 'curve editor' which lets you make some basic adjustments after calibration. Whether all this is worth $700 only you can decide.

 

As a counterpoint, my own view is that XT32 does such a good job on its own that anyone with basic REW skills and a decent calibrated mic might want to ask if they can get as good, or even better, results from that gear at a much lower cost?  Certainly REW will allow you to do much more than Pro - it is especially useful for helping determine where to add room treatments for example - something that will probably make far more difference than Pro alone can do. If you add a little basic PEQ into the mix - such as you will find with, for example, a Behringer 1124P - you may find this is even more useful. The 1124P can be found secondhand for as little as $50. Of course, many people would wish to use REW and Pro together - they are not mutually exclusive.

 

Have a read through the thread and you will come to a conclusion I am sure. As Jeff (pepar) says, probably nobody regrets buying Pro - but at the end of the day it is an automated room correction system and if you have the required skills and gear you may find you can do better yourself.

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Here is an analysis I did last year when I still had my 4311.  I made a concerted effort to place the mic in the same location.  IMO, the differences are subtle, and could be explained by the slight variations between mic placements between the two sets of measurements.  The real differences between using the Pro kit vs. a standard calibration are the other benefits (more measurement positions, ability to save and reload measurements, curve editor, control of the target curve, etc.).

 

Pro vs. Std, full range, 1/6 smoothing:

 

 

Pro vs. Std, bass frequencies, no smoothing:

 

 

Pro vs. Std, pre-out measurements:

 

 

 

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