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post #4831 of 5281
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

One cannot install the pro kit in a component.  His 80.3 comes pro-kit enabled and one has to buy a component-specific license ($150) as well as the pro-kit, itself (~$500).  So, when he says that the pro kit is installed, I hope he means that it comes with the license and/or comes with the kit and not just as the 80.3 comes from the factory.

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Originally Posted by Gooddoc View Post

+1, I agree with this and Kal's comments on DEQ
The "Pro kit" is a separate mic, phantom power supply, stand, cables, etc bundled in a nice Audyssey badged carry case. That is what costs somewhere around $550

The Integra is simply "Pro kit" ready, meaning it comes with a free label biggrin.gif You will need to purchase a license for the privilege of using it.

I'll sell you my kit for $400.00

Edit: I see this has been addressed already. That's what I get for walking away from the computer for a few minutes in the middle of a reply smile.gif Kit still for sale though wink.gif

Let me double check and see what he says and meant smile.gif
post #4832 of 5281
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Very nice gentlemen smile.gif

Can't wait to get my JTR 212 Noesis for that. I'm picking up a couple JTR triple 8's Wednesday that I will bump back to surrounds eventually

As far as Audyssey pro kit...I have exchanged a couple PM's with a kind fellow member and down the road I may buy his Integra 80.3 which already has the pro kit installed. What else will I need?

 

Pay special heed to Kal's post.  The 80.3 is 'Pro-ready'. All that that means is that you can plug the Pro kit mic and the laptop running Audyssey software into it and the 80.3 will recognise them. To use Pro, you need three things:

 

  1. A Pro-ready AVR or AVP
  2. A Pro Kit, with software, mic, preamp etc
  3. A Pro License

 

2 and 3 together cost $700.

 

3 is 'attached' to a specific AVR/P by its MAC address or serial number and never leaves the unit to which it has been attached. This may apply to the 80.3 you are looking at - clarify with the vendor that he bought a licence and ask for details, including his installer login details.

 

2 can be bought separately new or secondhand but is useless without 1 and 3.

post #4833 of 5281
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post
 
 
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post
 

Sure, it might indeed sound fine - just sayin' it's not a Harman curve, which is where we were coming from (I think).  I think it's a bit perverse TBH to want Audyssey to be able to deliver a harman curve.

 

He-he, a bit perverse-now we're getting somewhere. :)  I agree completely, it's not my objective.  My objective was to facilitate discussion on the practical limits of the curve editing function in Pro. So far, I'm impressed with the reports.

 

It's just that the Harman curve was the preference of most people when tested


Right, as was the Audyssey curve preferred when tested, including tests with  DEQ using professional film mixers.  It is a great product.

 

I don't believe XT32, much less XT32/Pro, has been compared head-to-head with Harmon.

 

That's not quite true. There is no such thing really as the 'Audyssey curve'. There is the THX Movie Reference standard which is what Audyssey wanted to emulate. This is a standard and not a preference issue at all. Where the film mixers came in was in the development of DEQ. Audyssey asked pro mixers to turn down the MV and then adjust the curve to give them back the same subjective impression that they had when listening at reference volume (0dB).

 

Unfortunately, Audyssey then made a mistake wrt to the surround channels based on the myth that human hearing has a characteristic where sounds coming from behind fall away more rapidly than sounds coming from in front, as their loudness diminishes. They came to this conclusion because they had failed to realise that the surrounds were typically being mixed at 82dB average not 85dB average as for the main channels. So obviously the sound of the surrounds would diminish more rapidly simply because they were quieter to begin with. This is why the single most common complain wrt to DEQ in the Official Audyssey Thread's 65,000 posts is that it overboosts the surrounds.

 

This is a bit nit-picky though I agree and the general thrust of your post has my happy concurrence - LOL.

post #4834 of 5281
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Originally Posted by Gooddoc View Post
 
 
Edit: I see this has been addressed already. That's what I get for walking away from the computer for a few minutes in the middle of a reply smile.gif Kit still for sale though wink.gif

 

i think that quite often semi-duplicated answers can be helpful. They confirm that the earlier post is agreed with by more than the poster, and often they add extra bits of information which add to the value of the reply.

 

Of course, I would say this as I invariably fail to engage readahead mode and so often find myself replying where an earlier reply has been made. This particular topic being a case in point ;)

post #4835 of 5281
Does the current program support windows 8.1 with rs232 (I have a Marantz 8801)?

Thanks!
post #4836 of 5281
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Originally Posted by jmschnur View Post

Does the current program support windows 8.1 with rs232 (I have a Marantz 8801)?

Thanks!

Ran mine recently on my HTPC with OS 8.1. No issues (with Denon A-100, but should be no different with the Marantz 8801).
post #4837 of 5281
Thanks. That helps.
post #4838 of 5281
Sorry if this was covered before and not sure if I got the answer I was looking for in the FAQs. If I choose a target curve in the Pro Software (Say I designed one or chose one of the HF roll-off curves), how does the Audyssey Movie vs Music selection in the Integra DCH 80.3 affect the target I originally chose?
There are three knobs to turn. "Audyssey Target Curve in the Pro Software", "Audyssey: Music" and "Audyssey: Movie". Let's say I want only the target curve I chose in the software to be the one. Should I choose "Audyssey:Music", "Audyssey:Movie" or "Audyssey:Off".
Thanks,
-Jai
post #4839 of 5281
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Originally Posted by jmcomp124 View Post

Sorry if this was covered before and not sure if I got the answer I was looking for in the FAQs. If I choose a target curve in the Pro Software (Say I designed one or chose one of the HF roll-off curves), how does the Audyssey Movie vs Music selection in the Integra DCH 80.3 affect the target I originally chose?
There are three knobs to turn. "Audyssey Target Curve in the Pro Software", "Audyssey: Music" and "Audyssey: Movie". Let's say I want only the target curve I chose in the software to be the one. Should I choose "Audyssey:Music", "Audyssey:Movie" or "Audyssey:Off".
Thanks,
-Jai

I think the answer is Audyssey Movie. The Music curve will attempt to provide flat response, except for the midrange compensation dip, if selected in Pro. Audyssey Off, will, of course, bypass Audyssey completely.

I do not use the so called Music curve, even with music, which is primarily what I listen to. I think it is misnamed, and it will not deliver optimum results, except in near field listening situations. In normal far field listening situations, it does not sound as good or as close to the sound of live music to me.
post #4840 of 5281
Hello
I would like to erase the Audyssey Pro calculations from my DHC80.2 and do a fresh new measurements.
I did "reset to factory defult" but the Audyssey is still active.
Is there any way I can erase the Audyssey and make a frash new Audyssey Pro measurements?

Thank you for your help

Yoav
post #4841 of 5281
Thread Starter 

^Hello Yoav, welcome.  Erasure is a routine part of each new calibration.  Whether it's a Pro cal or not there is a step, after you tell it to calculate the filters, when it asks if you want to save it to the processor-and that replaces the last cal. 

 

IIUC, for Onk/Integra, you also have the option (I believe you do this before you start a new cal) of saving the current cal into the processor's memory, thus saving rather than erasing the prior cal-just in case you decide for whatever reason that you really don't want the new cal.  

 

For Denon/Marantz you can save as many calibrations as you like to your computer HD and switch them in minutes using Network Save/Load.

 

With Pro, be sure to save your mic measurement data file to the laptop HD so you can create new cals from that data should you want to.  Of course, if you've significantly changed the room or the speakers, etc that data file is useless and one should remeasure.


Edited by SoundofMind - 12/2/13 at 2:50am
post #4842 of 5281
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

^Erasure is a routine part of each new calibration.  There is a step (whether it's a Pro cal or not), after you tell it to calculate the filters, when it asks if you want to save it to the processor-and that replaces the last cal. 

IIUC, for Onk/Integra, you also have the option (before you start a new cal) of saving the current cal into the processor's memory, thus saving rather than erasing the prior cal-just in case you decide for whatever reason that you really don't want the new cal.  

For Denon/Marantz one can save as many calibrations as you like to your computer HD and switch them in minutes using Network Save/Load.

With Pro, be sure to save your mic measurement data file to the laptop HD so you can create new cals from that data should you want to.  Of course, if you've significantly changed the room or the speakers, etc that data file is useless and one should remeasure.

Thank you for your answer

I used the Pro before 2 years.

I have 2 subs and I read in that forum that:

1.Loading a measurement file, re-calculating filters and
saving the results to the AVR results in incorrect
subwoofer distance and level settings. (Workaround:
always make a note of the default sub distance and trim
settings before re-calculating filters, and set the
correct values in the AVR after completing the re-
calculation.)

2.On some AVR's, when performing a new Pro calibration, sub
distances do not change. (Workaround same as above.)

3.Adding new measurements to existing measurement files is
no longer supported by Audyssey for users with dual subs.
Audyssey has confirmed the issue, but has reported that a
fix is not currently planned. This is because the fix
requires more AVR resources than are currently made
available for Audyssey use. Note: this issue does not
impact single-sub users.

4.Loading a measurement file and re-calculating filters may
result in a different priority to the crossover
recommendations

Becuase of the above "problems" I would like to erase Audyssey calculations from my integra dhc80.2 and run a new
one.

As I mentioned I did "reset to factory defult" but Audessey is still active

I would like to go back to the frist moment ,where there wasn't any Audyssey measurements in the DHC80.2 .

Is it possible?

Perhaps there is another way to do reset to the DHC80.2 , a deeper one that will erase the Audyssey calculations?

Thank you for your help

Yoav
Edited by Yoav - 12/2/13 at 3:07am
post #4843 of 5281
Thread Starter 

^Congrats on having done your research.  I'm surprised that after a successful microprocessor reset there's any Audyssey settings remaining in the AVP.  I don't have that brand so cannot say how to wipe it other than the instructions in the OM.

 

That said, I don't understand why you'd need to go through all that to get a good pro cal.  Perhaps Jerry or Keith can weigh in.

post #4844 of 5281
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Originally Posted by Yoav View Post
 

I used the Pro before 2 years.

I have 2 subs and I read in that forum that:

1.Loading a measurement file, re-calculating filters and
saving the results to the AVR results in incorrect
subwoofer distance and level settings. (Workaround:
always make a note of the default sub distance and trim
settings before re-calculating filters, and set the
correct values in the AVR after completing the re-
calculation.)

2.On some AVR's, when performing a new Pro calibration, sub
distances do not change. (Workaround same as above.)

3.Adding new measurements to existing measurement files is
no longer supported by Audyssey for users with dual subs.
Audyssey has confirmed the issue, but has reported that a
fix is not currently planned. This is because the fix
requires more AVR resources than are currently made
available for Audyssey use. Note: this issue does not
impact single-sub users.

4.Loading a measurement file and re-calculating filters may
result in a different priority to the crossover
recommendations

Becuase of the above "problems" I would like to erase Audyssey calculations from my integra dhc80.2 and run a new
one.

As I mentioned I did "reset to factory defult" but Audessey is still active

I would like to go back to the frist moment ,where there wasn't any Audyssey measurements in the DHC80.2 .

Is it possible?

Perhaps there is another way to do reset to the DHC80.2 , a deeper one that will erase the Audyssey calculations?

Thank you for your help

Yoav

 

Nice to see someone do so much research!  There is absolutely no need to erase the old calibration - when you do a new cal, the measurements are saved to the AVP when you hit 'save to the AVP' and they overwrite all the Audyssey measurements already there. 

 

To do a factory reset on Onkyo/Integra units there are two different procedures.

 

1). To reset the AV receiver to its factory defaults, turn it on and, while holding down the [VCR/DVR] button on the unit, press the [ON/STANDBY] button on the unit. "Clear" will appear on the display and the AV receiver will enter Standby mode.
 
2). On some Onkyo units you may need to use the procedure below instead:
 
Completely clearing an Integra/Onkyo 2010 model: 
 
This has been confirmed to work on: DTR-70.2/DTR-80.2/DHC-80.2/PR-SC5508 units.
 
1) Set the Volume to Default Level: 30 (absolute) -52dB (relative).
 
2) Push and hold 'Memory' on the unit - then push 'Standby/On' on the unit. There will be some weird text on front panel display at this point. Press 'Return' on the unit.
 
3) It will show "All Clear??", then press 'Return' on the unit again.
 
I imagine you did the first procedure and it didn't fully clear the settings. Try the second procedure above, which should clear everything.
post #4845 of 5281
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Nice to see someone do so much research!  There is absolutely no need to erase the old calibration - when you do a new cal, the measurements are saved to the AVP when you hit 'save to the AVP' and they overwrite all the Audyssey measurements already there. 

To do a factory reset on Onkyo/Integra units there are two different procedures.

1). To reset the AV receiver to its factory defaults, turn it on and, while holding down the [VCR/DVR] button on the unit, press the [ON/STANDBY] button on the unit. "Clear" will appear on the display and the AV receiver will enter Standby mode.
 
2). On some Onkyo units you may need to use the procedure below instead:
 
Completely clearing an Integra/Onkyo 2010 model: 
 
This has been confirmed to work on: DTR-70.2/DTR-80.2/DHC-80.2/PR-SC5508 units.
 
1) Set the Volume to Default Level: 30 (absolute) -52dB (relative).
 
2) Push and hold 'Memory' on the unit - then push 'Standby/On' on the unit. There will be some weird text on front panel display at this point. Press 'Return' on the unit.
 
3) It will show "All Clear??", then press 'Return' on the unit again.
 
I imagine you did the first procedure and it didn't fully clear the settings. Try the second procedure above, which should clear everything.

Thank you I will try that new procedure.
It is the first time that I see Volume level involves in reset procedure:confused: but I will try it.

Thank you

Yoav
post #4846 of 5281
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Originally Posted by Yoav View Post
 
Thank you I will try that new procedure.
It is the first time that I see Volume level involves in reset procedure:confused: but I will try it.

Thank you

Yoav

 

Please let me know if it works and the Audyssey settings are gone. Thanks.

post #4847 of 5281
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Please let me know if it works and the Audyssey settings are gone. Thanks.

Of course I will let you know.
It will take time because after the reset I will have to make a new Pro cal and for 11 speakers and 10-12 points you need time and quite house:)

Thank you very much for your help

Yoav
post #4848 of 5281
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Originally Posted by Yoav View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Please let me know if it works and the Audyssey settings are gone. Thanks.

Of course I will let you know.
It will take time because after the reset I will have to make a new Pro cal and for 11 speakers and 10-12 points you need time and quite house:)

Thank you very much for your help

Yoav

 

You are very welcome!

post #4849 of 5281
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Originally Posted by Yoav View Post

Of course I will let you know.
It will take time because after the reset I will have to make a new Pro cal and for 11 speakers and 10-12 points you need time and quite house:)

Thank you very much for your help

Yoav

The quiet house is a problem for many of us...I just changed my own configuration with additional sub inputs and I have to wait almost a week until I can have a dedicated hour to run Pro, and measure the results with the REW kit to loop back into improvements with the Target Curve Editor.

BTW, Chag Urim Sameach, Yoav! I envy you the choice of sufghaniyot they have in Israel for Chanukkah. Have a halvah sufghaniyah for the rest of us LOL...

(for the non-familiar, that's "Happy Chanukkah" in Hebrew, roughly; sufghaniyot are stuffed jelly donuts, fried in olive oil and stuffed with all sorts of good flavors)..
post #4850 of 5281
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Originally Posted by sdrucker View Post

The quiet house is a problem for many of us...I just changed my own configuration with additional sub inputs and I have to wait almost a week until I can have a dedicated hour to run Pro, and measure the results with the REW kit to loop back into improvements with the Target Curve Editor.

BTW, Chag Urim Sameach, Yoav! I envy you the choice of sufghaniyot they have in Israel for Chanukkah. Have a halvah sufghaniyah for the rest of us LOL...

(for the non-familiar, that's "Happy Chanukkah" in Hebrew, roughly; sufghaniyot are stuffed jelly donuts, fried in olive oil and stuffed with all sorts of good flavors)..

Toda raba and in English Thank you very much:)
post #4851 of 5281
My brother's name is Yoav smile.gif. Over there it's quite common but you can imagine in California how much difficulty the gringos have with that name (both spelling and pronouncing).

My name (Eitan) is also dirt common in Israel but problematic on this side of the pond, although at least there a couple of reasonably close English analogs in "Ethan" and "Anton" so most people can get pretty close tongue.gif
post #4852 of 5281
^^ Hey, we named our almost three month old Kobi. Easy to say, but even a couple of relatives have asked us if he can dunk or if why we live in Chicago and are LA Lakers fans. smile.gif.

I can just imagine if my wife had pulled put the wrong world music CD when we were talking about baby names and had come up with Idan...
Edited by sdrucker - 12/2/13 at 2:17pm
post #4853 of 5281
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Please let me know if it works and the Audyssey settings are gone. Thanks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

You are very welcome!
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Please let me know if it works and the Audyssey settings are gone. Thanks.

Hello
The second procedure did it.smile.gif

Thank you very much for your help

Yoav
post #4854 of 5281
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Originally Posted by Yoav View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Please let me know if it works and the Audyssey settings are gone. Thanks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

You are very welcome!
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Please let me know if it works and the Audyssey settings are gone. Thanks.

Hello
The second procedure did it.smile.gif

Thank you very much for your help

Yoav

 

You are very welcome, Yoav.

post #4855 of 5281
Sorry in advance if this has been covered in this 162 page thread:

I have a NAD T175HD with the AM200 Module that is Audyssey-Pro "capable" (not XT, only "Pro").

Is there any way to aquire the Audyssey Pro software license (not the whole "pro kit" with hardware), and simply tweak the results I get from the basic Audyssey Auto-Setup?

I already have a descent RTA Mic and REW software that I use to tune my pro-audio and studio setups, I just want to be able to manipulate the T175HD's Audyssey EQ settings w/o dropping close to $700 for the "tools" to enable this functionality.

Thanks for any pointers,
Randy V.
post #4856 of 5281
I know of no way to get the benefits of Pro without purchasing the kit plus license, i.e. the full $700 investment. TBH, the results-tweaking capabilities of Pro are somewhat limited and, if that is all you are after, my feeling is that you would be disappointed. Many of us purchased the Pro kit for al lot of the other advantages, not just to tweak the results.
post #4857 of 5281
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Originally Posted by Randyman... View Post

Sorry in advance if this has been covered in this 162 page thread:

I have a NAD T175HD with the AM200 Module that is Audyssey-Pro "capable" (not XT, only "Pro").

Is there any way to aquire the Audyssey Pro software license (not the whole "pro kit" with hardware), and simply tweak the results I get from the basic Audyssey Auto-Setup?

I already have a descent RTA Mic and REW software that I use to tune my pro-audio and studio setups, I just want to be able to manipulate the T175HD's Audyssey EQ settings w/o dropping close to $700 for the "tools" to enable this functionality.

Thanks for any pointers,
Randy V.

 

What Jerry said. If you are experienced with REW, room acoustics, PEQ etc,. then you can probably achieve or surpass the results Pro would give you anyway. 

post #4858 of 5281
Wow - Already 2 responses on X-mas eve! Thanks smile.gif

I'd love to be able to surpass the results I currently get with the Audyssey Auto Setup. Unfortunately, the T175HD doesn't offer any manually adjustable PEQ's (at least not w/o purchasing the Audyssey Pro Kit & License). Seems like such a waste of powerful DSP just sitting there w/o any way to manually manipulate it frown.gif

So this is not possible w/o dropping $700 on the Pro Kit + License, or reverting to external PEQ/DSP?

My L/R Mains, Center and Subs (Dynaudio AIR series active monitors) do have access to a few bands of DSP PEQ - but not as much EQ as Audyssey-Pro offers (and not as elegant with recallable curves from the AVR itself, etc). But then the surrounds will be left in the cold (Dynaudio BM6P Passive speakers on their own analog amps - no separate DSP available for them). I've been satisfied with the results of Audyssey Auto-Setup on the surround speakers.

A bit O.T.: I don't suppose there is a way to force the Audyssey Auto Setup to ONLY affect the Surrounds, and then leave the L/C/R "flat" for use with external processing? Maybe I could wire up something to send the NAD's Line Level out's back into the 1/8" Audyssey Mic Input (basically a passive summing of L/C/R outputs with appropriate attenuation for the 1/8" Audyssey Mic Level Input) when the L/C/R measurements are taken, and quickly swap back to the Audyssey Mic when the Surrounds are being measured? Anyone ever tried this kludge? Or will the Audyssey Auto Setup complain if the Mic is unplugged in-between measurements? I can obviously handle setting the distance and relative levels myself as this kludge will report useless relative volume readings and a "0" distance for the L/C/R loopback signals.

What would Audyssey do if it receives a perfectly flat measurement result (like from a line level loopback from the AVR's RCA Output)? I'd guess Audyssey would still EQ the perfectly flat "Line Level Loopback" results and roll off the highs to hit the target curve - or would it?

Thoughts? Maybe I'll just forego the Audyssey Auto EQ on the entire system - use the minimal external DSP I have available for L/C/R with a manual tune (REW), and leave the surrounds as-is (surrounds aren't horrible as "Flat", but will need some PEQ to integrate cleanly IMO).

Back to work (gotta work on X-Mas day, too!)...
Randy V.
post #4859 of 5281
Thread Starter 

^The only option that allows excluding certain speakers from Audyssey is "Bypass FR/L" (avail on Denons, possibly on Marantz).  That applies Aud to everything except FR/L.  This option was used by some discriminating listeners with versions prior to XT32 as XT and lower versions could cause some degradation of SQ in the HF evident during critical Stereo listening. 

 

If you pull the mic out during Autosetup it stops the process, AFAIK it will not let you resume.  Nor can you run Aud without the surr speakers and then add them later. 

 

Unfortunately the only way to tweak Audyssey is the Pro kit. . As is the case so often in trying to squeeze more SQ from already good sounding systems there is smaller return for higher costs.  Perhaps if you're able to be more specific as to exactly what you'd want to do, the guys here can advise you as to whether that can be accomplished with the Pro kit.

 

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!

post #4860 of 5281
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Originally Posted by Randyman... View Post

Wow - Already 2 responses on X-mas eve! Thanks smile.gif

I'd love to be able to surpass the results I currently get with the Audyssey Auto Setup. Unfortunately, the T175HD doesn't offer any manually adjustable PEQ's (at least not w/o purchasing the Audyssey Pro Kit & License). Seems like such a waste of powerful DSP just sitting there w/o any way to manually manipulate it frown.gif

So this is not possible w/o dropping $700 on the Pro Kit + License, or reverting to external PEQ/DSP?

 

You have it. The pro Kit was essentially designed for custom installers to be able to offer their clients something 'more' than the run of the mill consumer Audyssey versions of XT, XT32 etc. It was still intended to be an automated system, but they added a few things like the curve editor to give a little flexibility. Unfortunately 'little' is the operative word. As such, it works very well, but many people believe that it is no substitute for a thorough understanding of acoustics and a proper 'tuning' of the room using acoustic panels, speaker and sub placement optimisation, measuring tools such as REW and sophisticated PEQ. Of course, the latter method requires a lot of knowledge and effort, whereas Pro is pretty much a system anyone can learn to use quite quickly. I think you have already hit up against the stops with it, judging by your line of questions and you appear to have the chops to go further than Pro would allow.

 

 

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 My L/R Mains, Center and Subs (Dynaudio AIR series active monitors) do have access to a few bands of DSP PEQ - but not as much EQ as Audyssey-Pro offers (and not as elegant with recallable curves from the AVR itself, etc). But then the surrounds will be left in the cold (Dynaudio BM6P Passive speakers on their own analog amps - no separate DSP available for them). I've been satisfied with the results of Audyssey Auto-Setup on the surround speakers.

A bit O.T.: I don't suppose there is a way to force the Audyssey Auto Setup to ONLY affect the Surrounds, and then leave the L/C/R "flat" for use with external processing? Maybe I could wire up something to send the NAD's Line Level out's back into the 1/8" Audyssey Mic Input (basically a passive summing of L/C/R outputs with appropriate attenuation for the 1/8" Audyssey Mic Level Input) when the L/C/R measurements are taken, and quickly swap back to the Audyssey Mic when the Surrounds are being measured? Anyone ever tried this kludge? Or will the Audyssey Auto Setup complain if the Mic is unplugged in-between measurements? I can obviously handle setting the distance and relative levels myself as this kludge will report useless relative volume readings and a "0" distance for the L/C/R loopback signals.

 

There is no 'official' way to have Audyssey EQ just the surrounds. Whether your idea would work, I am afraid IDK, but I’d like to learn more if you ever try it :)

 

Quote:

 What would Audyssey do if it receives a perfectly flat measurement result (like from a line level loopback from the AVR's RCA Output)? I'd guess Audyssey would still EQ the perfectly flat "Line Level Loopback" results and roll off the highs to hit the target curve - or would it?

 

Yes, it would attempt to match its target curve.

 

Quote:

 Thoughts? Maybe I'll just forego the Audyssey Auto EQ on the entire system - use the minimal external DSP I have available for L/C/R with a manual tune (REW), and leave the surrounds as-is (surrounds aren't horrible as "Flat", but will need some PEQ to integrate cleanly IMO).

 

If you aren’t happy with what regular Audyssey calibration is doing, then yes.

 

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 Back to work (gotta work on X-Mas day, too!)...
Randy V.

 

I always think about the many millions of people who work while the rest of us are enjoying time off. Our holidays would be pretty bleak without the contribution of this huge army of people ensuring life goes on while the rest of us are taking a break. Kudos to you.

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