Originally Posted by HDPERSON
I have shown what major magazines have said, I have told all how HDMI organization tests cables. I have mentioned the machines that test cables and how some companies don't have good quality control (BER). My proof is all out there to see by spending a little money or going on the internet.
All I get back is put downs by those who are threaten because they have been told that all HDMI cables are the same and just repeat the lie.
I have not seen any tests by the individuals that back up their claims to sameness. Just words.
This was a thread that was started by someone asking an opinion as to which is the best HDMI cable. He found what he was looking for. That should have ended it, until some individuals started the nonsense that all cables are the same. When I saw the unecessary reponses, I had to state my experience.
I still can't believe spending $25,000 and $5 on cables. How about $1,000 on cables to at least match the other equipment. Absolutely unbelieveable.
The discussion is going nowhere, just around and around. You can't convince me and I can't can convince you. Thanks to all those sending me private messages because you were afraid of being attacked by the "ALL THE SAME CROWD". A forum should not be for attacks but discussion. Let the discussion end here.
Please stop. You don't even own expensive equipment - I've checked your other appends and found you own Panasonic Blu-Ray players and a Costco purchased Visio HDTV. So, unless you're hiding some actual high end equipment, you're out of your league (and way out of your knowledge base).
From what I can tell you don't even realize that we have explained why what you are saying is nonsensical. So, explaining anything further would be just repeating the same mistake of attempting to treat you like a knowledgible person. I chuckle at the thought of you trying to teach law or accounting.
For the rest of us - let's treat HDPERSON like he does not exist. Don't reply, don't respond. Once he doesn't get any responses, he'll go away. In other words, get one more response in, then don't feed the troll anymore.
Finally, to answer some of your questions that actually have substance,
'Have you ever seen a BER test machine or an Eye Pattern test machine or Cliff effect reader?' Yes, these are commonly called data scopes. I have one at my dispossal and have used it for 1394 testing for spaceflight.
'The first production model is tested and if it passes MINIMUM' - No, for high speed certification, the test actually is for the maximum bitrate that will ever be seen by a high speed cable, not the minimum (using minimum values would make no sense, would it?). All HDMI equipment currently in use, uses less than the maximum bandwidth certified for high speed. You really could use an engineering degree. And, those are my final words to HDPERSON, who no longer exists as far as I'm concerned.