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Yes. Turn off all processing.
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Yes. Turn off all processing.
Thanks! wink.gif
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Featured on Electronic House. smile.gif
Edited by landshark1 - 8/17/13 at 6:42pm
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YES!
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congrats!!!
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Congrats !!! 5300sqft house .... I really need to leave Toronto.
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Thanks guys, and special THANKS AGAIN to Big for all his work!! Without Big, my HT will never be like this. smile.gif
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Congrats !!! 5300sqft house .... I really need to leave Toronto.
That's included the whole basement. I would say my HT is just about average mid size.
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Congrats Gary! for making the electronic house for a second time! I was waiting to see your second theater in it for a while. Very well written article and truly deserving. I think your whole home should also be on electronic house in the future!

Congrats to Big also for having two theaters he is associated with making it to EH!
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Congrats Gary! for making the electronic house for a second time! I was waiting to see your second theater in it for a while. Very well written article and truly deserving. I think your whole home should also be on electronic house in the future!

Congrats to Big also for having two theaters he is associated with making it to EH!
Thanks Vik! My house is just an average Joe home, nothing really special about it. tongue.gif
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So does your brother work for Electronic House or something? wink.gif

Congrats, though cool.gif
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So does your brother work for Electronic House or something? wink.gif

Congrats, though cool.gif

LOL, tks! tongue.gif
post #402 of 491
Another question for you, how is all your rope lighting hooked up?

I have been looking at most seem to use just a 2 prong 120 connection, how are they all wired?

Thanks man.
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Another question for you, how is all your rope lighting hooked up?

I have been looking at most seem to use just a 2 prong 120 connection, how are they all wired?

Thanks man.
They are all hardwired together and connect to the Insteon OutletLinc.
post #404 of 491
Curious how you wired them together? What gauge of wire did you use? Anything special?

I am trying to find a wiring guide but they all point to using the connectors and official wiring from the manufacturer, I assume this was a DIY job between runs?

Thanks
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Most rope lights are a 2 wire system. And you can join segments together with either pre-made joiners or take two plug in adapters snip off the plugs and connect the wires in a safe manner. Now where it gets tricky is if you are using LEDs. LED rope lights are sensitive to the polarity of the wire connections where Incandescents are not.

pre-made version

http://1000bulbs.com/product/2081/SIV-M18.html?tid=car
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Most rope lights are a 2 wire system. And you can join segments together with either pre-made joiners or take two plug in adapters snip off the plugs and connect the wires in a safe manner. Now where it gets tricky is if you are using LEDs. LED rope lights are sensitive to the polarity of the wire connections where Incandescents are not.

pre-made version

http://1000bulbs.com/product/2081/SIV-M18.html?tid=car

OK, I think I understand, so at the end of each rope you would attach one of the cables you mention, chop the 2 prongs off and attach to say regular 12-2 in wall electrical wire in a junction box? Run that back to the central location and put it on a Insteon powerlinc or something for control?
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If you have an in wall electrical box you might as well just have a recessed outlet and plug in the rope light. Also keep in mind that rope lights can be daisy chained. Hook the head to the end of a powered segment with an appropriate sized wire. Not every segment needs to be connected back to an outlet. With LED, you usually only get one transformer that steps the 120v ac to 12 v direct current so you really want a wiring path to optimize the use of the transformer.
Edited by BIGmouthinDC - 8/12/13 at 7:28pm
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If you have an in wall electrical box you might as well just have a recessed outlet and plug in the rope light. Also keep in mind that rope lights can be daisy chained. Hook the head to the end of a powered segment with an appropriate sized wire. Not every segment needs to be connected back to an outlet. With LED, you usually only get one transformer that steps the 120v ac to 12 v direct current so you really want a wiring path to optimize the use of the transformer.

OK gotcha.

Is there any specific wire I should look for to daisy chain with? I looked at the ones at 1000lights but they are all only 6 ft, surely there is something generic I could splice in (I hope)

I could then hook them all together and then use a single OutletLinc which would be ideal.

Thanks
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Gary - Are you obtaining 2.35:1 strictly with zoom / lens memory?
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Gary - Are you obtaining 2.35:1 strictly with zoom / lens memory?
Yes, and it works great. smile.gif
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One last rope light question for you.

Are they dimable? If you had a Insteon OuletLinc Dimmer?

Thanks
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One last rope light question for you.

Are they dimable? If you had a Insteon OuletLinc Dimmer?

Thanks
Yes, that's part of the reason I chose incandescent instead of LED. When I hit off, the rope light takes about 5-8 sec to be completely off (properly due to the load) instead of instance on/off, thus give me a better ambient lighting effect. Another reason is I want a very warm light that better match the HT's color. I've tried a couple so-called "warm" LEDs, they all look "white" to me.
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Yes, that's part of the reason I chose incandescent instead of LED. When I hit off, the rope light takes about 5-8 sec to be completely off (properly due to the load) instead of instance on/off, thus give me a better ambient lighting effect. Another reason is I want a very warm light that better match the HT's color. I've tried a couple so-called "warm" LEDs, they all look "white" to me.

Awesome, thanks man!
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Finally pull the trigger for a 2nd SVS PB12-Plus subwoofer! Can't wait, can't wait..... biggrin.gif
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Finally pull the trigger for a 2nd SVS PB12-Plus subwoofer! Can't wait, can't wait..... biggrin.gif

Congrats!!!

You still finding a dip in bass? What finally prompted the decision?
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Congrats!!!

You still finding a dip in bass? What finally prompted the decision?
I talked to Bryan Pape regarding the null at my MLP. It seems like it was from the back wall & my seating distance combo. So I moved the front row 6-8" closer to the screen wall, and stacked 4" of OC703 at the back wall (temporary) for a total of 4"-6" thick of OC703 there. Now, I can finally "feel" the bass through my seat. And the bass difference between the 1st & 2nd row had also reduced too. I'm currently wait for Big (when he's available) to redo my rear wall (and a small fix on the door).

Therefore, I believe it's now the time to add another sub to further even out the FR and give me a bit more output.
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So have you arrived at the final solution and you are ready to make some sawdust? or do you want to test the second sub before we do the surgery?
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So have you arrived at the final solution and you are ready to make some sawdust? or do you want to test the second sub before we do the surgery?
The sub will be here tomorrow. And I'm ready for the surgery whenever you are Big! (probably just need to order another box of OC703 when we do) smile.gif
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The 2nd SVS had arrived yesterday! Yay! biggrin.gif



Currently, I put the new one at the screen wall in between the center & right speaker. The other one is still at the rear wall left corner. I did a quick measurement this morning before work after ran the Audyssey process. Now I could say I have a nice & flat FR at my MLP, finally! wink.gif



They are running @ 20hz mode right now. I'm still debating whether I should give up a little output to run them @ 16hz mode. As you see in the graph, I've got some decent room gain and the FR is flat down to 16hz already. If I run them @ 16hz mode, I should have the FR flat down to 12-14hz. I'm wondering is there a lot of movie content that will dig under 16hz to worth the reduced output @ 16hz mode?? I believe most movies' deep bass contents are at around 20hz or so. Not a whole lot content under 16hz, no?

I'll play around & watch a few more demo over this weekend and see. But so far, I'm really enjoying this new flat FR at my seat and had re-watched the Underworld Awakening's first giant lycan appearing scene. It feel as much bass as my previously before treatment's 2nd row with the sub running at +6db!

I'm really looking forward for this weekend's movie night movie, Olympus Has Fallen!! Read it has some awesome bass. cool.gif
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Yeah! Congratulations. Are you still going ahead with the rear room treatment or do you think the problem is 95% licked?

As for the low tuning question; if you spend anytime in "The New Master List of Bass in Movies" forum you wouldn't be happy until your system does reference in the single digits.
A lot of movies have some serious LFE in the 10 - 20 hz range, though some recent blockbusters have been purposefully filtered during production at 20 or even 30 hz to a resounding hiss and boo from the bass junkies.
(I can't really comment however because I doubt mine hits reference level anywhere. smile.gif)
As with most things, try the lower tune and see for yourself.
Yeah, treatment is the main key. My problem was the bass energy stays at the back wall thus makes the 2nd row having much stronger bass while it also reflected back to the room and created a null at my 1st row (my seat). So my guests were having a good massage back there while I was scratching my head asking myself where's the bass?? With my temporary stacking of 4-6" of OC703 at the back wall, it really helps to absorb the low-end bass. I'm hoping Big will help me to find a way to put 6-8" of OC703 on the back wall when he's free. 'Cos that's what Bpape is calling for, 6-8" thick OC703, in order to have some meaningful trap for the lower end bass (<50hz).

And yes, I've limited myself of reading/visiting at the subwoofer subforum for a reason. Over there, a dual PB13-Ultra/FV15HP is a "minimum" requirement with Cap/Submersive being a "norm" there. And you ain't talking until you are talking about multiple 18"s. eek.gif It's just toooooo addicted there.... tongue.gif

When I was searching for subs, I was thinking about dual PB13-Ultra. But after talked to SVS and taking my room size (<2700sqft) and listening level (-15~-10db, and had never touched in the single digit db range), a dual PB12-Plus should do me fine. And I truly think so after today. However, IF I have the money or upgrading (in the far away further tongue.gif ), I'll do no less than a dual Submersive/S2. I guess one could always dream..... tongue.gif

I'm sure I'll give the 16hz mode a try and run some measurement. But I'm really skeptical regarding the ultra low 12-14hz content availability. As you've stated, some movie even have a 20hz or 25hz filter in place limitation. That further makes not a lot of scene for me to give up some more useable output and chase to the holy grail of ultra low teens hz ownership.
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