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post #301 of 476
I'm going on two weeks now with no problems of tuners not coming back online from sleep since I've disabled my Kaspersky antivirus.

Since that seems to be the issue, I am going to try and dissect the settings within my AV to allow me to turn it back on, while allowing whatever needs to communicate to the outside world to do its' thing.
post #302 of 476
One problem I've been having with MC over the last couple of years is returning to the box, but finding it unresponsive. I can see the system responding, but the display stays blank. ctrl/alt/del does nothing.

An old windows shortcut popped into my head and I hit alt F4 and it closed MC and all was well... I wish I had remembered it sooner!
post #303 of 476
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Originally Posted by BlueDragyn View Post

Thank you. Everything I looked at showed that the card has been activated, paired, etc.

Update so far: During my second tech chat last night, they found that Comcast had not activated the card. I have no idea what they DID activate the first time but there was no record of MY card being activated. Of course, they couldn't verify much because their finance system was down for maintenance.

Hopefully I'll have resolution tonight.

Oi. So I worked for another two days on this before breaking down and consenting to a tech visit. The tech spent a good half hour trying to figure out the problem before placing some calls. During the last call, someone in the main office found a setting that had not been turned on. They flipped the switch, sent a refresh and voila, I had HD. Nice to know it wasn't something I did.

Thanks for the help, folks! I appreciate you trying!
post #304 of 476
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Originally Posted by gregoryperkins View Post

One problem I've been having with MC over the last couple of years is returning to the box, but finding it unresponsive. I can see the system responding, but the display stays blank. ctrl/alt/del does nothing.

An old windows shortcut popped into my head and I hit alt F4 and it closed MC and all was well... I wish I had remembered it sooner!

I get the same. I thought it was something to do with my processor being too weak. Hrm...
post #305 of 476
get a TiVo and be done with it. Never misses a recording...super easy to use...fast...crystal clear picture..can transfer videos off to your computer ..can stream netflix , YouTube, amazon. And its cheaper than the cable DVR and a htpc which blows..I used to have one.

its about 600 for the first box and about 500 additional boxes but so worth it, and the best part? After a few years of using it...sell it with the lifetime service and you will get most of your money back! Try selling the pc in a few years...won't get anything.

seriously look into it and be happy instead of worrying about drivers, shows not recording...wife approval...etc.
post #306 of 476
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Originally Posted by danxmanly View Post

I'm going on two weeks now with no problems of tuners not coming back online from sleep since I've disabled my Kaspersky antivirus.

Since that seems to be the issue, I am going to try and dissect the settings within my AV to allow me to turn it back on, while allowing whatever needs to communicate to the outside world to do its' thing.

I find its much safer to never let your HTPC sleep.
post #307 of 476
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Originally Posted by saknice20 View Post

get a TiVo and be done with it. Never misses a recording...super easy to use...fast...crystal clear picture..can transfer videos off to your computer ..can stream netflix , YouTube, amazon. And its cheaper than the cable DVR and a htpc which blows..I used to have one.

its about 600 for the first box and about 500 additional boxes but so worth it, and the best part? After a few years of using it...sell it with the lifetime service and you will get most of your money back! Try selling the pc in a few years...won't get anything.

seriously look into it and be happy instead of worrying about drivers, shows not recording...wife approval...etc.

I just checked Tivo's site. $600 is for the base Tivo which has two tuners and only holds 45 hours of HD. The XL model would compare best with my HTPC, so that would be $700. To get four tuners you need to shell out $1000.

I spent $350 on my HTPC three years ago (reused an existing hard drive and Windows license that I had, so saved about $150) and it also never misses a recording, crystal clear picture, can transfer videos to other computers, and has no problems with Netflix, Youtube, Amazon, etc, and it plays blu-ray discs as well.
post #308 of 476
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Originally Posted by jeffkro View Post

I find its much safer to never let your HTPC sleep.

same. i just have my harmony send a "close all" macro when i turn it off, it never sleeps but processor is about 2-3% just sitting at windows....which is pennies in electricity. so i just go that way, no issues, no sweat.
post #309 of 476
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Originally Posted by saknice20 View Post

get a TiVo and be done with it. Never misses a recording...super easy to use...fast...crystal clear picture..can transfer videos off to your computer ..can stream netflix , YouTube, amazon. And its cheaper than the cable DVR and a htpc which blows..I used to have one.

its about 600 for the first box and about 500 additional boxes but so worth it, and the best part? After a few years of using it...sell it with the lifetime service and you will get most of your money back! Try selling the pc in a few years...won't get anything.

seriously look into it and be happy instead of worrying about drivers, shows not recording...wife approval...etc.

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Originally Posted by spivonious View Post

I just checked Tivo's site. $600 is for the base Tivo which has two tuners and only holds 45 hours of HD. The XL model would compare best with my HTPC, so that would be $700. To get four tuners you need to shell out $1000.

I spent $350 on my HTPC three years ago (reused an existing hard drive and Windows license that I had, so saved about $150) and it also never misses a recording, crystal clear picture, can transfer videos to other computers, and has no problems with Netflix, Youtube, Amazon, etc, and it plays blu-ray discs as well.

I am with you on this. TIVO is for people who, how do I put it, "are not up to the challege" perhaps the quitters? At the first sight of trouble they scream "I Surrender"

To connect 5 TV's using TIVO, one would have to buy 5 TIVO's either with lifetime, or pay monthly subscription, and rent 5 CableCards.

With HTPC, it only cost us $800 to build, and $200 to add 4 more TV's to the network. For a $1000 initial investment, we only pay $3.99 a month to rent a CableCard.

The system paid for itself in about a year, since we did not have to pay $60/month to rent Verizon DVR and 4 CableBoxes, or buy 5 TIVOS for $3000, and pay $20/month to rent 5 CableCards.

And we don't need to pay for Hulu Plus, since HULU sees HTPC as a PC and it is free.
post #310 of 476
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Originally Posted by blueiedgod View Post

I am with you on this. TIVO is for people who, how do I put it, "are not up to the challege" perhaps the quitters? At the first sight of trouble they scream "I Surrender"

To connect 5 TV's using TIVO, one would have to buy 5 TIVO's either with lifetime, or pay monthly subscription, and rent 5 CableCards.

With HTPC, it only cost us $800 to build, and $200 to add 4 more TV's to the network. For a $1000 initial investment, we only pay $3.99 a month to rent a CableCard.

The system paid for itself in about a year, since we did not have to pay $60/month to rent Verizon DVR and 4 CableBoxes, or buy 5 TIVOS for $3000, and pay $20/month to rent 5 CableCards.

And we don't need to pay for Hulu Plus, since HULU sees HTPC as a PC and it is free.

Thanks for the reply...I agree with you on everything you said but if your starting out fresh...its about 800 for a good htpc..another 300 for a good network tuner and then let's say about 200 for each extender...still pretty expensive not mention all the bugs / glitches with wmc...as shown by all the posts in this thread.

Also even if you did get five premieres w/ lifetime..that's about 2500...yes a lot of money but in a few years if you decided to sell it...you would get almost ALL of it back...effectively making it almost free ( look up prices on ebay for hd tivos with lifetime...they still sell for about $400 and they came out a while ago). So while tivos may be more expensive you do get reliable service, few glitches (check out the # of posts on a tivo forum with problems compared to here), and great resale value. If you tried selling your five hear old htpc you would not get anything for it..

Both solutons are better than the cable company boxes but people should be aware of tivos and I don't think they know there is another option. Also the tivo experience is second to none and no wmc pc will ever touch it ( seriosuly...try the tivo box out from tivo directly..they offer a 30 day trial...absolutely amazing).
post #311 of 476
Hey all, having a problem with my tuner today. This morning I wasn't getting a few channels I normally do, called the cable co and they said to swap out the cablecard. I did that, and now the unit isn't recognizing the card at all, and the cable light will not turn on. I have reinstalled the drivers and firmware from hauppauge's site, and it still wont work at all. The cable co cannot even see the card at all, and the tuner diagnostics says there is no card installed. I went back to the cable co and swapped out the card again, and still nothing. I try to run the tv signal setup in media center, and it recognizes the tuner but says it cannot configure it because there is no cable card.

So, short of completely reinstalling media center, anyone have any suggestions?
post #312 of 476
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Originally Posted by sitlet View Post

Hey all, having a problem with my tuner today. This morning I wasn't getting a few channels I normally do, called the cable co and they said to swap out the cablecard. I did that, and now the unit isn't recognizing the card at all, and the cable light will not turn on. I have reinstalled the drivers and firmware from hauppauge's site, and it still wont work at all. The cable co cannot even see the card at all, and the tuner diagnostics says there is no card installed. I went back to the cable co and swapped out the card again, and still nothing. I try to run the tv signal setup in media center, and it recognizes the tuner but says it cannot configure it because there is no cable card.

So, short of completely reinstalling media center, anyone have any suggestions?

Sounds like the cablecard is bad. Get a new one.
post #313 of 476
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Originally Posted by spivonious View Post

Sounds like the cablecard is bad. Get a new one.

That's what it seemed like to me, however I already swapped this new one out, so two "new" cards are having the same problem...hmmmm...
post #314 of 476
Hmm, indeed. Is there any way for you to test if the cablecard is good, i.e. another cablecard device? It seems like the tuner card is working fine, it just isn't detecting the cablecard. Could it be as simple as dirty contacts?
post #315 of 476
OK I think we figured it out. I called Hauppauge support and they asked if the card was an M-Card, my old one was, but this one just says Motorola CableCard. He said it has to be one that says Motorola M-Card, so hopefully I can go back to my cable company tomorrow and get one of those.

EDIT: OK the M-Card has fixed the "no-cable" problem with the tuner. I am now getting most of my HD channels. However, I am still not getting 2 channels, ESPNHD and ESPN2HD (of course the two channels I watch most). I called the cable co back again, they again said there is no problem on their end with these two channels. I called a friend, who has the same cable but uses their DVR box, he has no problems with these channels. Media Center reports 100% signal strength with both these channels, and I just tried every other channel and everything else works. This makes me think it has to be a problem on their end somehow....
post #316 of 476
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Originally Posted by sitlet View Post

OK I think we figured it out. I called Hauppauge support and they asked if the card was an M-Card, my old one was, but this one just says Motorola CableCard. He said it has to be one that says Motorola M-Card, so hopefully I can go back to my cable company tomorrow and get one of those.

EDIT: OK the M-Card has fixed the "no-cable" problem with the tuner. I am now getting most of my HD channels. However, I am still not getting 2 channels, ESPNHD and ESPN2HD (of course the two channels I watch most). I called the cable co back again, they again said there is no problem on their end with these two channels. I called a friend, who has the same cable but uses their DVR box, he has no problems with these channels. Media Center reports 100% signal strength with both these channels, and I just tried every other channel and everything else works. This makes me think it has to be a problem on their end somehow....

I was having the same problem with the travel channel what fixed it for me was a pc reboot and a power cycle of the tuner and TA.
post #317 of 476
I've lost my subscribed channels for some reason.
Card is authenticated, OOB locked and activated but I'm only getting 'local' stations.

I've got a truck roll scheduled, but could this be a Play Ready problem?
post #318 of 476
My original MC pc was getting too flaky, so I replaced it with a low power amd e-350. It seems to be working pretty well. I needed to call tw to get the 2650 reactivated.

The strangest thing was that the 2650 carried the old log files with it. It must be saving them locally on the device itself. I did some sort of reset and they went away, but it was strange seeing logs from another computer.

old pc amd x2 with a radeon 4650
new amd e-350 with radeon 6x ssd primary.

The compelling thing about the e-350 is usb 3, esata and low power/noise. But the old vista era pc played back hd video better.
post #319 of 476
The cable-card is paired with the reader; you shouldn't need to reactivate if your just changing out your HTPC.
The Hauppaug 2650 has a Silicondust device under the hood. It has a lot in common with the HDHR3-CC tuner. Recently Silicondust released new firmware for the HDHR3-tuner that has resolved a mess of UPnP problems.

Latest SD firmware is 20120405
post #320 of 476
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Originally Posted by billdacat View Post

The cable-card is paired with the reader; you shouldn't need to reactivate if your just changing out your HTPC.
The Hauppaug 2650 has a Silicondust device under the hood. It has a lot in common with the HDHR3-CC tuner. Recently Silicondust released new firmware for the HDHR3-tuner that has resolved a mess of UPnP problems.

Latest SD firmware is 20120405

Hauppauge updated firmware to match SD version 10120405.
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/suppor..._dcr-2650.html

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WinTV-DCR-2650 Installation CD
WinTV-DCR-2650 Installer Version 1.6.30104

Note: This is a single file which includes the Windows 7 driver, firmware plus utilities

New: This vesrion includes latest firmware update dated April 05 2012

New: This vesrion includes IR support for Media center remote control.

Install instructions:
Click to download
Unzip this file to a directory you will remember
Once unzipped, run 'Setup' from this directory and run Step 1 and Step 2.
Notes:
Includes major updates to the Tuning Adapter driver.
Authorize authentication with CableCARD running old firmware.
Improvements to better handle TCP packet loss.
Automatically detect and log card errors and restart the card if needed.
Improvements to UPnp support
Improvements to diagnostic support.
Note: If Windows 7 reports that the firmware did not update correctly, simply run this update once more. The second time you should see a message "Your firmware is the current version".

Name: wintv-dcr-2650_ver_30104.zip
Date: April 13, 2012
post #321 of 476
Are any DCR-2650 owners still having usb disconnection issues since the latest firmware update? This is one of the tuners I'm considering getting, but if it still has issues I'll look elsewhere. Is it true the DCR-2650 has been discontinued already?
post #322 of 476
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Originally Posted by tawd1992 View Post

Are any DCR-2650 owners still having usb disconnection issues since the latest firmware update?

None for me since the most recent update.
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post #324 of 476
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Originally Posted by Ruiner View Post

None for me since the most recent update.

Did you have problems with it disconnecting before the update?
post #325 of 476
Yes, and I'm pretty sure tied to sleep/wake cycles.
post #326 of 476
Just got this box a couple of days ago, updated to the latest firmware, and had the cablecard installed. All I can say is that it works great, no issues waking up.

Especially with current prices (bought at Newegg), I'd consider this a great deal, if you're fine with 2 tuners only.
post #327 of 476
I have 2 ota tuners in there for network stuff. That's plenty for me.
post #328 of 476
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Originally Posted by tawd1992 View Post

Are any DCR-2650 owners still having usb disconnection issues since the latest firmware update? This is one of the tuners I'm considering getting, but if it still has issues I'll look elsewhere. Is it true the DCR-2650 has been discontinued already?

No disconnection issues for me either
post #329 of 476
I just received mine from Newegg, but it would not install properly at all. Only the system light would light up. Tried to run set-up anyhow but kept getting 'no tuner' found. Dble and triple checked connections to no avail, so I guess It will have to be RMA'd.

Not convinced Comcast cable guy left me the proper CCard, but he swears it's the only kind they have.

Any chance someone can post a picture of what a Motorola CCard M type, so I can look at one?
post #330 of 476
from another poster, I found the difference between an S card and an M Card.

Ahole Comcast guy left me an S Card......claimed it's the only type they have. Now I'm not sure if product is really faulty and needs RMA or not. Seems to me Comcast/Cable companies really want to make our lives miserable for dropping their rented boxes.
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