John Carter - Page 10

Love it! Actually, I wanted to call it "warp speed" but was afraid some would think I was a Trekkie. So many films... so many different names for it. But, shouldn't it be the speed of light is relevant; light speed is impossible. Whatever.

OK, for homework extra credit here's a question I read in satire magazine once. It was a mock NASA astronaut test question. If a car manufacture invented an auto that could travel the speed of light, what would happen if the driver turned on the headlights? Good luck!

Actually, Mars does have an atmosphere, and some pretty fierce storms too.

The running theory is that at one time the Martian atmosphere was much thicker, and it had running water on its surface. However, the lack of a solid iron core with a molten iron layer above it rotating at different speeds (the Earth model) meant there was no magnetic field surrounding the planet and protecting its atmosphere from solar radiation. Eventually, the "solar wind", as it's known, just blew most of the Martian atmosphere away into space as its gravity wasn't enough to overcome that relentless solar bombardment.

There are theories about how to terraform Mars, and I'm sure we'll eventually get up there to try 'em out, but that lack of a protective magnetic field is going to make it really difficult to thicken up the atmosphere enough to support human life without breathing apparatus. Maybe after a few hundred, or thousand, years of working at it.... who knows?

Which is why John Carter can jump a mile and the Barsoomians needed atmosphere plants. Who said ERB didn't understand science .

...and oink...all those SW ripoffs...so who stole those ideas, Stanton or Lucas BTW Stanton did test a red tinged Mars, as well as, red tinged "Red Men". He said it looked awful on film, so he elected to go with natural light and coppertoned Mediterrean looking folks with red tatoos.

I can't make anyone go to this movie, but I think it's a well done adventure, true to it's source. I hope they can make sequels...won't count on it.

We've already terraformed it. And thanks to Quiad, with the help of Kuato, he restarted the atmosphere by melting the ice at the Martian core. Or was it all part of a virtual vacation implant gone horribly wrong?

If I recall correctly, the measured speed would still be the speed of light, but shifted in frequency.

As I said before, it doesn't really matter if GL stole stole ideas from ERB, what matters is the SW Universe lays claim to it in the zeitgeist by virtue of being first out of the gate....ergo, this is why I was reminded of SW while watching this film.

BTW, we are talking about movies....whether or not there is fidelity to the novel has no bearing on the quality of a movie.

Hell, a million hack sci-fi/fantasy writers stole it from ERB before Lucas stole it from them, but zeitgeist ???. Using German words on an American forum with questionable intellectual background into Freud(ian) or Jung(ian) jargon (or whoever) is a low blow. You need to take that back and translate it into modern American ghetto slang or we can't understand you.

LOL.

Blood Rayne and a few others I can think of. Still Disney likes to release straight to Video/dvd.

Word!

Spit it out, Ron, tell us what you really think. Anyway, I don't know nothing 'bout no Stinkin' "zeitgeist."

Fo schnizzle

Here's a suggestion;

http://disney.go.com/johncarter/tran...VOREVSU1RBTkQ=

Be sure to use the translator.

Hey!
My intellectual credentials are unassailable....
Every thing I know I learned from uncle der Onkel Sigmund and uncle der Onkel Carl.

My goal was to sort of agree with both you and oink in a funny way. Guess I didn't get the job done, huh?

You got it done just fine . I just don't know what fo schnizzle means. "We're all bozos on this bus..."(Firesign Theater 1974)

wow, you have quite a memory.


total recall

so it this flick getting pretty much trashed at the box office?

what genius at disney thought sinking 400-500 million into this project
would be a moneymaker

I wouldn't call it trashed. It's underperforming. It's at a hair under $180 million now. It *might* make its money back eventually after all the associated revenue comes in. The big question is how well it'll do next weekend when The Hunger Games opens.

William Goldman said, "Nobody in Hollywood knows anything." What he meant was no one knows how a movie (of any type) will do at the box office until after it opens. At best, you can have an educated guess.

Caught a matinee showing of this and ugh, what a stinker.

Saw this today and enjoyed it. Sure, there were changes from the books (I wish the Therns weren't teleporting all over the place, including Earth), but the spirit of the books was very much there. John Carter was every bit the awesome fighter he is in the books, and the actors had good chemistry. The technology, the look of Mars, the Tharks, all of it, very well done. It would be nice if there were sequels.

br rental only i guess

I agree. For me it was a Saturday matinee adventure yarn that let me leave the real world behind for a couple of hours and have some fun. The wife enjoyed it too.
The box office struggled because I believe it was very poorly marketed.

Disney says 'John Carter' to lose $200 million


Well, I guess this squashes any hopes of a sequel.

Dude, you beat me to it...just saw this off of Reuters.

Like I said above...someone needs to be fired....

It's Disney. A lot of someones are going to get fired.

Hopefully...
Disney has built a well-deserved (IMO) reputation of "excellence" over the years...and I (for one) would hate to see a Hollywood without them.

I am hoping The Lone Ranger is a hit....although, I doubt it (for the very same reasons that I doubted JC).

saw it last week and liked it. Its in between Good and decent for me. Will definitely be buying it on bluray!

Loved this movie! Great to see a fan's thread here!

1. the film's total gross is now $180 million. This film will make a lot of money. Relax.

2. the 3D looked great to me.

3. the CGI is also excellent. It doesn't push the envelope the way that avatar did back in '09, but the fx are still spectacular.

4. some of the panoramic shots are simply not very convincing; actors and creatures far off in the distance are shown in high resolution--they should look a bit blurry from a vantage point hundreds of feet away.

5. if you are looking for oscar award winning acting, this is not the film for you. The acting is formulaic and generic, but gets the job done. As a matter of fact, I enjoyed the slightly cheesy, b-movie caliber acting. They're fighting a civil war on friggin' mars, for goodness' sakes!

Anyway, can't wait to see this again. It's great, escapist entertainment. Who knows, maybe some of this stuff actually went down on mars....