Originally Posted by PogueSquadron
Hmm. I wonder if it may be worth hunting down an older TV with less aggressive ABL and a low input lag, if its even out there. I definitely don't notice this much on my parents' TV but I believe they got this TV before the whole TV Eco movement thing.
It is out there, it's called the ST30
It improves on practically all of those nasty issues that are plagued with the dissapointing S30. The ST30 gives you Pro settings controls including gamma presets, color adjustments ect, it has better blacks thanks to it's Infinite Black2 panel AND it has a better panel overall > NeoPlasma, includes THX, slightly better motion handeling, an Anti glare filtre(You can take that as good or bad if it does in fact reduce calirity & depth), proper 24p mode and 3D
. I''ve already mentioned this one trillion times, but you get 16ms of lag by using component cables(With color gamut set to HD, color management set to 'off', along with video & MIsquito noise both disabled. I wouldn't recommend playing SD consoles on it however, the colors for Wii games looked desaturated and the picture overall was a little on the dim side and this was in Custom with the contrast and color maxed to 100...However, PS3 games via HDMI is a completely different story...The colors seemed quite a bit richer, vibrant and saturated while boasting brighter picture overall. This is probably because HD games/bluray discs have superior color & brightness. So keep that in mind, use it for the Wii U, PS3, XBOX 360, PS4 or One. Oh and i picked up a pair of PS3 component cables to see if there was any difference in PQ vs HDMi, and there is. The PQ when using component looked softer(even when 1080i was selected), and i think the colors & brightness may have took a teeny little hit(maybe my eyes are deceiving me), either way the colors and brightness were still a lot better than playing SD content(ahem, wii)
And if the S30 is any indication, than the ST30 should also have a very subtle ABL. But again, if you want that ultra low 16ms, you're going to be limmited to Component(no 1080p for titles that support it, while selecting 1080i based on my experience raises the lag a teeny bit). Where as using HDMI ramps it up to 32ms....Which will give you nearly the exact same feel as S60's 34ms..No real difference really. Plus the S60's got better blacks, accurate color, a wider richer color gamut and better brightness(until ABL kicks in that is!)
If you live in the US, than you're in luck!
You can get the 50" or 55" on amazon for either $800 or $869.
Also even if the U50's 20ms is true, you're going to have to put up with it's agressive ABL, so the ST30 already has the advantage, plus the U50 is just as bare bones as the S30....No gamma presets, nothing.
Also, at 50" and at 10 feet away you wouldn't beable to tell the difference between a 720p and 1080p videogame. And that slightly softer picture that i'm describing by using component instead of HDMI on the PS3 was on my 60"....and at 10 feet away, so the difference would be a lot less noticeable with a 50" at the same viewing distance.Edited by WaveBoy - 7/23/13 at 10:52am