Hugo Cabret - November 2011 - Dir. by Martin Scorsese - Page 5

I have a LG LW6500 passive 3d tv and Samsung 3d BRP. I watched Hugo last night and it was amazing! Definitely no crosstalk with my passive set . Passive 3d is the way to go IMHO.

Blu-Ray.com has this statement in their review of Hugo 3D "... Crosstalk is not only present, but severe. It's constant and distracting, heavy and disappointing. It greatly interferes with the film and, for all the good the remainder of the 3D visuals do...."

I could not find any info on Blu-ray's web site that identifies what model TV they use to rate all the 3D movies. I would be surprised if they were unaware of the susceptibility of crosstalk on the TV they use for testing.

Given the apparent differences in crosstalk between different display technologies (LCD, DLP, plasma, projector, active/passive glasses, etc), how could a 3D movie be fairly rated in the area of 3D distortion? Further confusing the issue is how some sets have a crosstalk problem with Hugo and not on other 3D movies.

Just about all their reviews for 3D Blu ray movies go on about crosstalk and how bad it is and so forth. I rarely ever put much faith in their 3D reviews.

I wonder if the TV's brightness/contrast ratio affects the amount of crosstalk? In the theaters, Hugo was so dark that some people complained. Maybe that is how they eliminated (or reduced it to undetectable levels) the crosstalk.

I do recall that when I first played the movie on my TV, it was too dark and some of the detail was being lost in the dark areas. I paused the movie and turned up the brightness, backlight, and turned on active contrast. I find it interesting that I watched many 3D movies over the past 6 months on the same settings, and then had to change it for Hugo. When I get a chance, I'll watch it again with my settings back to my original settings and see if the crosstalk is reduced.

Some will speculate that 3D for home use is not catching on.
I just want to say that 3 Best Buy's in my area are sold out of Hugo 3D, as well as Frys issuing rain checks, Walmart out of stock and most Targets out of stock.

Hugo 3D must be a very popular 3D title or more people have 3D for home viewing than most people think.

It was out of stock up in Danvers, MA; in fact, most of the newer 3D releases were sold out or in very short supply.

There's definitely more 3D TVs out there than the naysayers would care to admit.

My guess would be that Hugo had above average separation and that combined with the frequently dark setting caused it to be a lot more noticeable. Tron 2 was dark, but it had almost no separation and what it did have was blurred by bloomed light. In testing Sony TVs for crosstalk at the store, Tron 2 was unusable because of that.

Even though I didn't like the film I ended up purchasing it...something about having the latest releases just makes me .

What I find odd though is I keep going thru the movie now to certain scenes I'd like to rewatch. Guess the films growing on me

Just finished watching it. Scorsese knocked it out of the park. Great movie, great story, and great 3D. I hope to see more like this one.

I need to watch it again. Zero crosstalk from Direct TV PvP last night.

I found myself losing interest in the story by the time the flick started letting you know what the heck was really going on in the story.

You would have to really like painfully slow developing plots.

I am going to watch it again today and see if I feel the same. I thought the PQ was nothing short of amazing though in all honesty.

Same here, but the storyline was interesting once it got going. The 3D kept my interest at the beginning of the movie.

I watched it last night on my LG and I thought it was great as well. Best 3D I have seen. Tiny crosstalk on the Mouse scene when I previewed it on my Samsung D8000,

Just watched Hugo and thought the movie was fantastic. The storyline was great and it kept my attention the whole time. I had to pick my jaw up off the floor a few times when it came to the 3D. This movie really has set the standard and all others hoping to make 3D movies should be made to watch this movie for pointers. I have a dlp projector which apparently doesn't show any crosstalk, but I did actually notice a bit of crosstalk on the station officer's hat. I attribute it to my overly cheap shutter glasses which I will be upgrading soon, but it never distracted me from the movie in any way.

I agree 100%! Loved the cinematography, music, 3D, it was beautiful. The 3D was done so well in this film. No problems with my projector on this one either, zero crosstalk.

My wife and I watched it again. Just not enough pay off at the end for us.

The PQ and 3D seemed top notch. I really scrutinized the PQ and 3D the second time around. This may have been the best 3D movie experience PQ wise I have ordered from Direct TV yet.

Sort of a borderline artsy type movie..... Not my favorite genre for sure.

I really never got even a hint of crosstalk. I use DLP displays.

I admit I like a more "exciting" film, not that it was bad or anything. 3D looked pretty darn good at times.

I have this movie as MKV file converted from ISO. I connected it through my laptop (with HDMI) and started watching the first 5 minutes or so. I was not impressed with the 3D very much. Is this because there arent much "popout" effects or do you think it is the way I am playing?

Needless to say I stopped watching in order not to ruin the movie experience. Can anyone who has seen the movie tell me the best popout scene so that I can check I have that? Thanks in advance.

You shouldn't need "pop outs" to watch this movie and be impressed with the 3D quality. If you are not impressed with the 3D, I would think the MKV file, the laptop or the TV is the problem.

Hard to say really. With Pdvd 12 depth adjustments you can "popout" the eyes from your skull. I had to dial it back a bit, but one of my favorite scenes was the dobie in the tub, don't ask me why.

I have a Sony 55HX729. I found more crosstalk than usual (slightly annoying) in HUGO and very little to none in AVATAR. On DirecTV more on ESPN 3D (Sony produced) and less on Net3-the Sony 3D channel. I can tolerate the crosstalk when it occurs but would be happier w/o it. The super bright 3D picture and full 1080p were factors leading me to make my TV purchase. LG's 3D is impressive but I preferred a full 1080p picture.

I have a 82" Mitsubishi DLP and never experience crosstalk or ghosting. I also have a 55" LG Passive 3D that does exibit crosstalk or ghosting. I just believe it is a hardware issue and not the discs.

i think you understood me wrong. I want to watch the movie but I want to make sure I have the correct file so that I dont miss out the "amazing" 3D experience.

Are there any specific scenes I should look into so that I am sure I have the acceptable quality? This does not have to be a popout.

(Last bit in Bold my emphasis)

No no no! If you don't agree with me then it is because you are wrong and must be enlightened/excommunicated/purged/exorcised/burned at the stake!



I watched the 3D BD last night, and thought it was a fantastic (literally) movie - the juxtaposition of dreams/nightmares and reality, and the inbetween-land of early film-making, was extremely well done. The characters were subtle, in my opinion, not flat.

The 3D effects were very well integrated into the story, and as a result I felt much more immersed in each scene. The audio editing and mixing deserved the Oscars they won: the sound transitioned smoothly from scene to scene, and complemented the visuals tremendously. For example, when the newspaper seller Monsieur Frick approaches the cafe owner Madame Emile and tries to befriend her long-haired dachshund, the dog's growls are faint at first, but then become more front-and-center as the scene develops, paralleling Hugo's attention to the interaction - a nice touch, IMHO.

And yes, Borat's, I mean Sacha Baron Cohen's station inspector character seems a little "flat" and purely for comedic effect at first, but there is a lot of subtle development that goes on.

I dunno, I guess I really like this style of movie (I like lots of styles, though, including in-your-face 3D pop-out adrenaline-pumping action/sci-fi and Euro-arthouse stuff). Someone else put it much more eloquently earlier in the thread:


Exactly. Though, frankly, I can't "watch" a movie without putting my full attention to it. If I can't just sit and watch, I'd rather just turn it off.

Oh yeah, and I saw no crosstalk. Sharp 17000 PJ, Panasonic DMP-BDT100 player, 110"-ish diagonal image.

IMHO,

shinksma

For what it is worth, I saw no crosstalk in the film? The picture and sound were pristine all the way through.

More and more people are purchasing 3D BDs possibly because there are more 3D capable displays out there and 3D movies are now so heavily discounted. $54.99 list price for most new 3D movies is absurd and the average selling price points are $29.99 and $34.99 with older titles less. I remember paying $39.99 for Under the Sea which was ridiculous and shame on me for spending that. My new maximum is $29.99 or I wait for the title to become older.