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From the HOTP thread at the top of the HDTV Programming forum page

Obituary
'Homeland' Writer-Producer Henry Bromell Dies of Heart Attack
By Lacey Rose, The Hollywood Reporter - Mar. 19, 2013

Homeland executive producer Henry Bromell has died of a heart of attack.

The acclaimed writer/producer had been part of the Emmy-winning drama’s six-member writing staff since its first season. In addition to a rich resume, which includes Northern Exposure, Homicide: Life on a Street, Chicago Hope, Rubicon and Showtime’s Brotherhood, Bromell, 66, brought with him personal experience as his father had worked for the CIA.

"We were lucky to work with Henry on and off for the past 18 years. He was a supremely talented writer and as kind and warm a person as you could ever meet. He will be deeply missed at the studio and on Homeland. Our hearts and prayers go out to his wife and children," studio Twentieth Century Fox TV and Fox 21 said in a statement Tuesday morning.
In recent months, Bromell had been particularly involved in luring new staff members to the Homeland’s writers room ahead of the show’s third season. Among the hires: James Yoshimura, who had worked with Bromell years earlier on Homicide.

Like much of the Showtime drama’s pedigreed staff, he had been blown away with the show’s breakout success, which included a string of award show acclaim for the series as well as its cast.

“When we were writing the first season, we had no idea this would hit the zeitgeist. We were trying to write a really good television show. The last time this happened to me was on Northern Exposure. First it was the reviews, and then it was President Obama is watching. It’s cool, but then it’s, ‘Oh god, now we’re going to let everyone down,’” he told The Hollywood Reporter during a 2012 set visit for the fifth episode of the Emmy-winning drama’s second season, which Bromell had written.

He noted at the time that his “secret fantasy” was that the episode would win star Damian Lewis an Emmy.

Bromell is survived by his wife, Sarah, and two sons.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/homeland-writer-producer-henry-bromell-429701

Sad news, R.I.P and condolences to the family and friends
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We just finished both seasons in the past week or so and loved both. I thought season 1 was great and season 2 even better. I thought most of the characters were very well written and better yet, complex. I wasn't sad to see the VP and Estes go as they were pretty one dimensional.

The only thing possibly more entertaining was reading this thread at the end of each night, catching up to where we left off.

Like many of these threads, most of the posts seem to be from people who apparently have no life and are forced to watch shows they hate.

Turns out the show reminds many of other shows. No kidding, there is pretty much nothing anywhere that's new. If you think there is, you need to read or watch more. The trick is to watch something and try and enjoy it for what it is. Not for what you think it reminds you of.

But my personal favorite are those that whined about plot issues only to have things explained to them they missed because they weren't paying attention.

Dana's character, to those who have had teenage daughters, was very well written and acted. It was refreshing to see a kid being portrayed with complex often contradictory emotions. Someone said she was one dimensional. No, like many real teenagers, her personality and emotions were like a roller coaster. Chris and Finn were one dimensional, as was Mike.

Like most threads about shows like this, it was especially fun reading the predictions. Most were wild assed wrong. I don't think anyone got any of the major twists correct. Even though someone, at one point, said something like who didn't see that coming. We'll considering no one said anything prior, I say no one saw it coming. Someone else thought they predicted the big terror attack. Sort of, but got it wrong by saying it was Brody or Carrie.

But yes, there are plot holes, unlikely situations, contrived scenes, unrealistic and illogical actions. Just like every other TV show. My favorite was the safe house with nothing but windows. Each of us sets the bar as to when it's to much. If it's to much for you, move on, make your point and leave the thread for the rest.

Much thanks to the handful of posters who shared their thoughtful opinions. We're looking forward to season 3.
post #1203 of 1773
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Originally Posted by David James View Post

We just finished both seasons in the past week or so and loved both. I thought season 1 was great and season 2 even better. I thought most of the characters were very well written and better yet, complex. I wasn't sad to see the VP and Estes go as they were pretty one dimensional.

The only thing possibly more entertaining was reading this thread at the end of each night, catching up to where we left off.

Like many of these threads, most of the posts seem to be from people who apparently have no life and are forced to watch shows they hate.

Turns out the show reminds many of other shows. No kidding, there is pretty much nothing anywhere that's new. If you think there is, you need to read or watch more. The trick is to watch something and try and enjoy it for what it is. Not for what you think it reminds you of.

But my personal favorite are those that whined about plot issues only to have things explained to them they missed because they weren't paying attention.

Dana's character, to those who have had teenage daughters, was very well written and acted. It was refreshing to see a kid being portrayed with complex often contradictory emotions. Someone said she was one dimensional. No, like many real teenagers, her personality and emotions were like a roller coaster. Chris and Finn were one dimensional, as was Mike.

Like most threads about shows like this, it was especially fun reading the predictions. Most were wild assed wrong. I don't think anyone got any of the major twists correct. Even though someone, at one point, said something like who didn't see that coming. We'll considering no one said anything prior, I say no one saw it coming. Someone else thought they predicted the big terror attack. Sort of, but got it wrong by saying it was Brody or Carrie.

But yes, there are plot holes, unlikely situations, contrived scenes, unrealistic and illogical actions. Just like every other TV show. My favorite was the safe house with nothing but windows. Each of us sets the bar as to when it's to much. If it's to much for you, move on, make your point and leave the thread for the rest.

Much thanks to the handful of posters who shared their thoughtful opinions. We're looking forward to season 3.

Excellent post! I enjoyed your insights. After reading your post, I went back and reviewed the thread. Doing so reminded me that at least three of last season's 12 episodes were among the best single episodes of a TV show I have ever seen. Looked at from the perspective of an entire season, that's pretty remarkable.
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Excellent post! I enjoyed your insights. After reading your post, I went back and reviewed the thread. Doing so reminded me that at least three of last season's 12 episodes were among the best single episodes of a TV show I have ever seen. Looked at from the perspective of an entire season, that's pretty remarkable.

Whats really remarkable is The Amerikans is even better. Probably the two best spy shows ever on tv .Certainly the best acted.
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Whats really remarkable is The Amerikans is even better. Probably the two best spy shows ever on tv .Certainly the best acted.

I've been stacking that show on the DVR and have not watched any of it yet .. planned on a marathon watch .. I was considering deleting it but it sounds like that would be a mistake ..
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I've been stacking that show on the DVR and have not watched any of it yet .. planned on a marathon watch .. I was considering deleting it but it sounds like that would be a mistake ..

Good grief. eek.gif 'The Americans' is the best new show I've seen in years, and that includes 'Homeland'. I expect it to sweep the industry awards next year - best drama, best actress, possibly best actor.
post #1207 of 1773
I've watched both The Americans and Homeland, Homeland does a bit more for me but it's all subjective. They are both great shows and we're lucky to have both shows when fake reality crap is seemingly taking over all facets of TV.

Can't wait for Homeland season 3. biggrin.gif
post #1208 of 1773
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I've watched both The Americans and Homeland, Homeland does a bit more for me but it's all subjective. They are both great shows and we're lucky to have both shows when fake reality crap is seemingly taking over all facets of TV.

Can't wait for Homeland season 3. biggrin.gif

+1! I'm not prepared to say that The Americans is better than Homeland either. They are two of the best shows on television these days but I can't say I really think one is better than the other. As you say, we're lucky to have both of them.
post #1209 of 1773
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Originally Posted by Done Deal DR View Post

I've watched both The Americans and Homeland, Homeland does a bit more for me but it's all subjective. They are both great shows and we're lucky to have both shows when fake reality crap is seemingly taking over all facets of TV.

Can't wait for Homeland season 3. biggrin.gif

+2 As you mentioned, it's personal preference, but while I enjoy The Americans, I do like Homeland better. Homeland keeps me glued to the TV for the whole episode. The Americans seems to go in waves. It will be really interesting, then pretty slow, ramp up, and so on.

Either way, both great shows.
post #1210 of 1773
I'll let you know what I think in about 13 days. We just finished our one-episode-per-day viewing of the final season of Spartacus, and will now start on The Americans. I am excited that some people think The Americans is on par or close to the quality of Homeland, which I think was one of the best shows on television in its first year (the second year I was less thrilled about, but still enjoyed).
post #1211 of 1773
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Exclusive: 'Homeland' adds F. Murray Abraham and Sarita Choudhury as regulars
By Alan Sepinwall Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:11 PM

We don't know much yet about "Homeland" season 3, which will debut on September 29, but we know that season 2 ended with Mandy Patinkin's Saul as acting director of the CIA after most of the high level officers were blown up by Abu Nazir's people.

And now I can exclusively report that the season will have two new regulars, both with ties to Saul: F. Murray Abraham as retired black ops specialist Dar Adal, and Sarita Choudhury as Saul's estranged wife Mira. Both have been promoted from guest star status.

At the end of season 2, "Homeland" producers Alex Gansa and Howard Gordon said that they hoped to work out a deal with Oscar winner Abraham to bring him back, since their fictional CIA might try to deal with the loss of so many top agents and administrators by bringing veterans like Adal out of retirement.

The second season of "Homeland" had a lot of bumps along the way, but Patinkin as Saul remained the show's constant, and the Saul/Dar beard-off was among the show's best moments of 2012. Anything that gives Patinkin more to do — both at work and at home — sounds like a very strong move.

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/exclusive-homeland-adds-f-murray-abraham-and-sarita-choudhury-as-regulars
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David Marciano Departs ‘Homeland’ As Regular, Preps Cable Prison Drama
By NELLIE ANDREEVA | Thursday April 11, 2013 @ 3:18pm PDT

EXCLUSIVE: With Brody headed out of the country in the second-season finale of Showtime’s Homeland, Carrie won’t have to rely as heavily on her off-the-books snoop extraordinaire Virgil. David Marciano has played the role since the pilot, recurring in Season 1 and promoted to regular in Season 2. Now I’ve learned the actor won’t return to the Emmy-winning series as a regular next season. though he may still appear on the show as a recurring guest star.

Marciano is the second Homeland cast member who won’t continue as regulars on Season 3, alongside Diego Klattenhoff. Three other regulars in Season – David Harewood, Jamie Sheridan and Navid Negahban — are leaving as their characters got killed off. The five shared in Homeland‘s best drama series ensemble SAG nomination this year. The rest of Homeland‘s regular cast, led by Claire Danes, Damian Lewis, Mandy Patinkin and Morena Baccarin, will likely return in their previous capacity. As for where Brody (Lewis) is headed, while he was last seen crossing the border into Canada, rumor is he may surface in Venezuela in the opening episodes of Season 3.

Meanwhile, as a writer-producer, Marciano has been developing a cable drama with his writing partner, comedian Steven Pickman aka Sarge, the duo’s manager, Craig Dorfman, and producer Aaron Kaplan of Kapital Entertainment. The project, which is expected to be taken out to networks shortly, is based on a real criminal enterprise that operates out of a prison. The drama is not envisioned as a starring vehicle for Marciano, though he may take on a role. Marciano recently drew attention for his guest-starring role in the heavily publicized “legitimate rape” episode of Law & Order: SVU.

http://www.deadline.com/2013/04/david-marciano-leaving-homeland-as-regular-castmember/
post #1212 of 1773
In case anyone is interested, the original Israeli series, "Prisoners of War(Hatufim)", second series is available for viewing at Hulu. The picture quality looks a whole better this time from what I remember of the first series. You can watch the whole series now with a Hulu Plus sub(or use the 1 week free trial trial) or 1 episode per week with the basic Hulu. It's a 14 episode series. The complete first series of 10 episodes is also available with just the basic Hulu sub.

I think it's better than "Homeland" myself.
post #1213 of 1773
Here is a link to a piece that discusses what is coming up on the first couple of episodes of the new Homeland season. SPOILER WARNING: although what was revealed in the piece seemed harmless to me, spoilerphobics may think the information is a spoiler so read the linked piece at your own risk. The piece also contains a link to the video of the wonderful SNL skit sending up the show Anne Hathaway was in last year.
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Spoilerphobics, that's new terminology for me biggrin.gif

There's this sex show that airs before/after Homeland this year. The topic is bleh but one of the cast members is a great actor, Beau Bridges. The show is called "Master of Sex."
http://www.sho.com/sho/masters-of-sex/home
post #1215 of 1773
It's not a sex show per se.

It's about Masters and Johnson, the sexologists.

Of course, TV will make it racy and it'll probably more than fulfill Showtimes nudity quotient.
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It's not a sex show per se.

It's about Masters and Johnson, the sexologists.

Of course, TV will make it racy and it'll probably more than fulfill Showtimes nudity quotient.

Weren't Masters & Johnson shown to be utter and complete frauds who phonied their "evidence?" Is the show going to be overtly about science fraud?
post #1217 of 1773
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I'm not familiar with Masters & Johnson. I did a quick Google search and discovered that Virginia Johnson just died 5 days ago. I'll check it out but I may not enjoy it. Sure, sex and pretty ladies is cool but I might not actually enjoy the storyline/plot subject.
post #1218 of 1773
Apparently the show is based on this book:

http://www.npr.org/2013/07/30/206704520/pioneering-masters-of-sex-brought-science-to-the-bedroom


So initially he was a doctor and she was her secretary and he proposed that they have sex as part of their research. Not sure if this discredited their work but apparently they published for decades.
post #1219 of 1773
My understanding is the bulk of their work was groundbreaking and has become the basis for our modern understanding of sexuality. The fraudulent issues arose out of a study done primarily by Masters that involved homosexual to heterosexual conversion therapy that even Johnson at the time felt was suspect, it turns out that data was fabricated and Masters admitted as much.

I have no idea if any of that will be in the show, but Lizzy Caplan stars in it so I'll be there. smile.gif
post #1220 of 1773
Back in the 1960's, Masters and Johnson was literally a household name from what I can remember ..
post #1221 of 1773
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Weren't Masters & Johnson shown to be utter and complete frauds who phonied their "evidence?" Is the show going to be overtly about science fraud?

Absolutely not. I'm not sure who you're thinking of, but M&J's groundbreaking research has held up ever since.
post #1222 of 1773
We should get a separate thread for the show. Showtime has been promoting it heavily so after Dexter and Ray Donovan ends, it should air.

The Fresh Air interview actually played clips from the pilot.
post #1223 of 1773
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We should get a separate thread for the show. Showtime has been promoting it heavily so after Dexter and Ray Donovan ends, it should air.

The Fresh Air interview actually played clips from the pilot.

I was thinking the same. Not to get off topic from Homeland tongue.gif

I'll create it later tonight or tomorrow. Thanks
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Season 3 Trailer:


post #1225 of 1773
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Coworker just saw the 2nd episode of Season 1 and she is blown away. Season 1 was good times biggrin.gif
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Season 3 Trailer:



Great trailer.
post #1227 of 1773
Hope we get Showtime back on the air by then.
post #1228 of 1773
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Darn, did not even think about that. That's so bad, providers restricting channels that people love frown.gif

I've been there before, with E* and AMC/FX. Thankfully E* got their act together in like 6 months.
post #1229 of 1773
It will be two weeks of no new Dexter come tomorrow. It sucks big time, especially it being the last season. I haven't any idea what's been going on, haven't followed this thread on purpose, Ray Donovan was really getting good behind Dexter on top of it.
This would have been a perfect season to do that dad/Emacyh(sp) re watch. Oh well C' est la vie. I hope I get Showtime back soon. I really hope Dexter is killing it. No smiles -copied and pasted.
post #1230 of 1773
The first episode of the third season of Homeland has been leaked onto the Internet nearly a month ahead of the Sept. 29 premiere...the leaked episode may have come from a post-production effects studio since it’s a “workprint” that doesn’t feature fully finished effects or credits...more than 100,000 users had already downloaded the premiere illegally within the first few hours of being posted, according to the report...

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/homeland-workprint-leaked-online-weeks-premiere-article-1.1444635
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