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post #1741 of 1773
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Originally Posted by Cal1981 View Post

I think that you're right about Quinn. He developed into an increasingly more interesting character as the season progressed. After he mistakenly killed the young boy his inner conflicts began to show themselves. He appears to be fond of and have great respect for Carrie, as crazed as she is at times. He denitely has her back and I suspect that he'll end up in Turkey with her.

I too hope that Quinn is prominently featured in next season's Homeland. Rupert Friend, who plays Quinn, is another of a long line of strong, classically trained. English actors. I would love it if he were given a chance to do more on Homeland.
post #1742 of 1773
People like Quinn but as soon as they start developing his character and his flaws, I will bet your all going to start trashing him. People like now because he is this quiet assassinating operative sort.
post #1743 of 1773
I don't think he is all that popular at all. There is nothing to his character and not much of anything to build on.
post #1744 of 1773
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

You are right, of course. Every TV show has implausibility built in. Why? Because nothing could have less dramatic value than unvarnished reality. The test of any TV show is not whether its plots are filled with unreality. Instead, the test is how much of that unreality we are willing to ignore because the rest of the show it worth it. For reasons I have stated so many time in earlier posts I won't repeat them here, Homeland had enough going for it that rising above the unreality was surprisingly easy for me.
Thanks, great response.

Edit - I keep wondering why it's "unreality" is part of so many posts. Seems like it should be a given.
Edited by David James - 12/19/13 at 10:38am
post #1745 of 1773
Newsday article has the top 10 tv deaths of 2013.. Guess who is #1? Hint: he gets hanged!!..eek.gif
List contains some of my favorite shows: Sons of Anarchy, Homeland, Person of Interest, Game of Thrones, Walking Dead and Boardwalk Empire..

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/top-10-tv-characters-deaths-in-2013-1.6630211
Edited by taxman48 - 12/19/13 at 6:46pm
post #1746 of 1773
That the new Frank Church-like head of the CIA would make the unstable and uncontrollable Carrie station chief of Turkey Region is among the top incongruities of the show running.
post #1747 of 1773
Everything after Brody's death scene seemed to me more like a dream sequence. I expected crazy Carrie to pull a gun on Lockhart any second, or another explosion when Carrie and Saul were talking at the ceremony. Very weird vibe during all those scenes. Especially after everything that had happened before.
post #1748 of 1773
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Originally Posted by CarlosFo View Post

Everything after Brody's death scene seemed to me more like a dream sequence. I expected crazy Carrie to pull a gun on Lockhart any second, or another explosion when Carrie and Saul were talking at the ceremony. Very weird vibe during all those scenes. Especially after everything that had happened before.
I also picked up a strange vibe from the Saul walking away scene. I was expecting a vaporizing type explosion too!
I would take major cojones to do something like that... I don't think Homeland's there yet... If this was Battlestar Galactica it would have happened.
post #1749 of 1773
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I would take major cojones to do something like that... I don't think Homeland's there yet... If this was Battlestar Galactica it would have happened.

That would have been a bit of déjà-vu no? wink.gif
post #1750 of 1773
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

That would have been a bit of déjà-vu no? wink.gif
Yes, but that's what made BSG awesome!
OT- when I watched the BSG "occupation" episodes I disliked them, but after further viewing- they're some of my favorite episodes of the entire series.
Sometimes it pays to upend the applecart....
post #1751 of 1773
Hopefully the next season doesn't start with Brody stepping out of the shower in Carrie's bathroom.
post #1752 of 1773
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Hopefully the next season doesn't start with Brody stepping out of the shower in Carrie's bathroom.
Could you imagine the uproar around here.....eek.gif
post #1753 of 1773
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Hopefully the next season doesn't start with Brody stepping out of the shower in Carrie's bathroom.

That's funny! Good posting smile.gif
post #1754 of 1773
No he will be like Dexter's dad and Carrie will have constant troublesome "monologues" with him. tongue.gif
post #1755 of 1773
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Originally Posted by Nima View Post

No he will be like Dexter's dad and Carrie will have constant troublesome "monologues" with him. tongue.gif
Ha. I hope not.
post #1756 of 1773
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Originally Posted by jadziedzic View Post

Hopefully the next season doesn't start with Brody stepping out of the shower in Carrie's bathroom.

Or Dick Winters could wake up his wife in bed and tell her about the crazy dream he had in which he was a Marine POW and a Congressman and a terrorist all in one.
post #1757 of 1773
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Hopefully the next season doesn't start with Brody stepping out of the shower in Carrie's bathroom.
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Originally Posted by Will2007 View Post

Or Dick Winters could wake up his wife in bed and tell her about the crazy dream he had in which he was a Marine POW and a Congressman and a terrorist all in one.

Those scenarios are only marginally less probable than what we have actually seen on the show. smile.gif
post #1758 of 1773
Well the premise that Javadi would be a mole for the US because of his financial embezzlement seems shaky given that Ayatolah Khameni leads by example when it comes to a kleptocracy:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/ayatollah-ali-khameneis-billions-20131113-2xfrt.html
post #1759 of 1773
Found this article about public hanging involving a crane just like Brody's public hanging:

http://freebeacon.com/iran-hangs-40-people-in-two-weeks/

Iran has a penchant for hanging criminals publicly from a crane, where observers can gather to watch the execution.
post #1760 of 1773
I don't think Brody is dead .. I believe the hanging was staged
post #1761 of 1773
cool.gif Dead is dead. Show needs a new direction anyway.cool.gif
post #1762 of 1773
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Originally Posted by Phil17108 View Post

cool.gif Dead is dead. Show needs a new direction anyway.cool.gif
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Show needs new writers to be honest. Its way too slow and some of the plot twists seem like they were made up on set.
post #1763 of 1773
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I guess I don't see why people say the show is done if Brody isn't returning. If the show's plot is about terrorism, can't they just find another terrorist? Or I guess a U.S. Government worker turned terrorist to be exact. What's so key about Brody?

People get too attached to lead actors. This show is about the CIA at its core. Brody is just filler. His family was just filler. Carrie , Quinn and Saul are the CIA. This show is about them and their invovlement in international affairs.

I think the directors wanted to remind everyone of this in season 3 which is why Brody was only seen for a couple episodes. This show isnt about him. The show did pretty well without him and his dumb blank stare every episode if you ask me
post #1764 of 1773
RIP James Rebhorn, who played Carrie's father.
post #1765 of 1773
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Originally Posted by DavidML3 View Post

People get too attached to lead actors. This show is about the CIA at its core. Brody is just filler. His family was just filler. Carrie , Quinn and Saul are the CIA. This show is about them and their invovlement in international affairs.

I think the directors wanted to remind everyone of this in season 3 which is why Brody was only seen for a couple episodes. This show isnt about him. The show did pretty well without him and his dumb blank stare every episode if you ask me

Totally agree, I think this show would have been much better if Brody was eliminated after season 1. The season 1 weak finale where basically nothing happened in my opinion hurt the direction of this show badly.
post #1766 of 1773
This show isn't bad but there's much better shows on Showtime. Masters of Sex is great and Episodes is well done.
post #1767 of 1773
There is nothing on Showtime that is/was better than the first season of Homeland! Great TV!!!
post #1768 of 1773
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There is nothing on Showtime that is/was better than the first season of Homeland! Great TV!!!

I was just going to say that. The first season was top shelf. It has been down hill (but at time enjoyable) from there.
post #1769 of 1773
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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

There is nothing on Showtime that is/was better than the first season of Homeland! Great TV!!!

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Originally Posted by dminches View Post

I was just going to say that. The first season was top shelf. It has been down hill (but at time enjoyable) from there.

I agree that the first season of Homeland was a classic, one of the best seasons of a serialized TV show I can remember. I also agree that the next two seasons were not in the same class as Season 1. In fact, it seems to me that the show has been deteriorating. Nevertheless, I still like it well enough to stick with it. Both Claire Danes and Damian Lewis are immensely talented and I thoroughly enjoyed their masterful performances in Homeland.
post #1770 of 1773
I personally think S3 was an uptick compared to S2, but at least for S4 they have a pretty clean slate to work with.
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