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post #61 of 1773
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Originally Posted by rkhopkins View Post

Other than the fact than an E-5 married Marine sniper would much more likely be living in base housing at Camp Lejeune or Pendleton instead of a nice house in Washington DC, I enjoyed the premier. I'm looking forward to seeing how it plays out.

Interesting point. Washington duty used to be security or show for DC. Dress Uniform stuff.
Hey, it's TV. Ops in Washington? No Problem
post #62 of 1773
Since he was MIA for 8 years, chances are he would have been declared dead and his wife would be living in whatever civilian housing she chose - wherever she chose.
post #63 of 1773
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

Since he was MIA for 8 years, chances are he would have been declared dead and his wife would be living in whatever civilian housing she chose - wherever she chose.

True, but I seem to remember Brody's wife asking him how he liked the new paint on the house when he returned - leading me to believe that they were living there when he was deployed.
post #64 of 1773
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Originally Posted by rkhopkins View Post

True, but I seem to remember Brody's wife asking him how he liked the new paint on the house when he returned - leading me to believe that they were living there when he was deployed.

That's right. Plus now that I think about it, the buddy in his unit must have also been stationed in DC to be canoodling with Mrs. Brody.
post #65 of 1773
Another really good episode IMO. I do like how they are trying to still make you determine Brody's motives. Another piece to the puzzle with Brody praying and showing how they began their turning process with him. This of course could all be in his head due to the trauma from being a prisoner.
post #66 of 1773
I, too, enjoyed the 2nd episode. The relationships between Danes' character and Patinkin's and her "bug" guy are intriguing and well-written.

The only flaw so far, IMO, is the fact that she's the only CIA analyst who's suspicious about Brody. When she participated in the debriefing at the "campus," her questions to him were valid, yet none of the other interviewers seemed overly interested.

Doug
post #67 of 1773
All you guys may be right about flaws and all but this is nit picking. This a a great series so far. The acting by Claire Danes is nothing short of perfect. She does own the role. The dialogue, the script, the video scenes @ the beginning of the episode seems real to me (I am a news junkie). This does not seem like tv. Keep up the great work Showtime!
post #68 of 1773
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Originally Posted by dougotte View Post

I, too, enjoyed the 2nd episode. The relationships between Danes' character and Patinkin's and her "bug" guy are intriguing and well-written.

The only flaw so far, IMO, is the fact that she's the only CIA analyst who's suspicious about Brody. When she participated in the debriefing at the "campus," her questions to him were valid, yet none of the other interviewers seemed overly interested.

Doug

I think the only reason they questioned anything was her past in Afghanistan (or Iraq) That incident seemed to be the one that broke the camels back as far as trust goes. Also while her questions were valid she was a little forceful with them. Really she had no proof other than an informants word that he could be the one that was turned.
post #69 of 1773
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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post

I think the only reason they questioned anything was her past in Afghanistan (or Iraq) That incident seemed to be the one that broke the camels back as far as trust goes. Also while her questions were valid she was a little forceful with them. Really she had no proof other than an informants word that he could be the one that was turned.

Good points, but I wasn't addressing their distrust of Danes, but the fact that none of them was suspicious of Brody's long imprisonment and why Al Qaeda would do that. Whether or not she has proof enough to justify her suspicions, you would think that CIA analysts would be trained to be skeptical and to pry into every story for duplicity.

However, as theob noted, it's nitpicking, and is ultimately just a plot device to make Danes stand out as the main character.

Doug
post #70 of 1773
Given the conditions that Brody was found in, and the pretty obvious evidence of years or torture, it's not inconceivable to me that the assumption of innocence has been made. IOW, there really isn't any credible argument that he was "turned". If he was found in clean conditions, obviously well cared for, the assumption would be different.
post #71 of 1773
The Boss pretty much made it plain what he thought, the rest of his subordinates are following his lead not questioning the fact Brody could have been turned...
post #72 of 1773
I'm still enjoying it and anticipate how they will develop the big reveal of his turned/not, since once it's certain, it becomes a different story. Maybe a modern version (dating myself alert here) of I Led Two Lives and Richard Carlson.
post #73 of 1773
Of course you meant I Led Three Lives..... Yeah, I'm old too!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Led_Three_Lives
post #74 of 1773
so if he's been turned why is he not acting on it more when he 'thinks' he is alone at home?...it's not like he knows that he is being watched 24/7 by video cameras...seems contrived to me...only reason for it is if he showed his true colors at home then there would be no more show...the one explanation that would make sense is if someone in Carrie's inner circle is feeding him info and is also a traitor
post #75 of 1773
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

so if he's been turned why is he not acting on it more when he 'thinks' he is alone at home?...it's not like he knows that he is being watched 24/7 by video cameras...seems contrived to me...only reason for it is if he showed his true colors at home then there would be no more show...the one explanation that would make sense is if someone in Carrie's inner circle is feeding him info and is also a traitor

Perhaps. Or perhaps it's because he was imprisoned and tortured for 8 years so his state of mind is just one giant clustereff which is why we see him curled up against a wall for 8 hours or however long. He's only been home alone for one day right? We're only 2 episodes in...

In any case, while I still like the show quite a bit, I hate the intro. Maybe it's the music but I know I'll be skipping by that every week for sure.
post #76 of 1773
Loving this show so far. Reminds me of the short-lived "Rubicon".
post #77 of 1773
Interesting way of recruiting "professional girlfriends" for the prince, can I go watch those interviews? LOL

Also they should go and install a camera in the Garage, take an opportunity when nobody's home and just do it..
post #78 of 1773
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post


Also they should go and install a camera in the Garage, take an opportunity when nobody's home and just do it..

Two things about that. You really don't know when Brody is going to be at home or not. Second, it would take the drama out of the program...
post #79 of 1773
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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

Two things about that. You really don't know when Brody is going to be at home or not. Second, it would take the drama out of the program...

And third his house/neighborhood seems to be blanketed by reporters 24/7 at the moment...
post #80 of 1773
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Originally Posted by moob View Post


Perhaps. Or perhaps it's because he was imprisoned and tortured for 8 years so his state of mind is just one giant clustereff which is why we see him curled up against a wall for 8 hours or however long. He's only been home alone for one day right?

This is my bone to pick. I have no idea what official military/intelligence protocol is, but wouldn't a returning POW, especially one in captivity for 8 years, be a lot more scrutinized and de-briefed for more than a session or two? Certainly not allowed to be "on his own" as it were in his own home, at least until his mental condition was fully known?

Of course, I realize then there wouldn't be a show, but it's a real big chunk of the premise that's hard for me to swallow.
post #81 of 1773
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Originally Posted by bruce73 View Post

This is my bone to pick. I have no idea what official military/intelligence protocol is, but wouldn't a returning POW, especially one in captivity for 8 years, be a lot more scrutinized and de-briefed fir more than a session or two. Certainly not allowed to be "on his own" as it were in his own home until his mental state was fully known?

Agreed, but obviously the point they're trying to make is that glory is trumping protocol and security.
post #82 of 1773
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Originally Posted by gruven42 View Post

Agreed, but obviously the point they're trying to make is that glory is trumping protocol and security.

I get that. It's not a deal breaker. I'll continue to watch as I like the cast, some of the bad dialog notwithstanding. I just hope the Mandy Patinkin character doesn't turn out to be in on some master scheme that's being kept from everyone, because that trick is pretty hackneyed.
post #83 of 1773
That's a good point, Bruce, but it is TV. I'm still enjoying the show. My biggest issue with this week's episode - I don't remember picking up on it last week - was Claire Danes lisp. In an early scene all I kept thinking was "suffering succotash!". It wasn't quite as pronounced in other parts of the episode. What did she have done to cause it?

larry
post #84 of 1773
not sure of the subject matter, but I really like this cast... and am watching for some geat performances week to week.
post #85 of 1773
I was wondering, if the escort/informant was really in so much danger why the hell would she keep the video on her phone. Shouldn't the CIA have taken her phone? Looks like they didn't even get a copy of the video and then erased the original one.
post #86 of 1773
It's a Meh show... kinda sad they randomly throw in nudity to keep you watching.
post #87 of 1773
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Originally Posted by Vipfreak View Post

It's a Meh show... kinda sad they randomly throw in nudity to keep you watching.

Yeah, since no other shows on premium channels do that........except True Blood, Game of Thrones, Dexter, Boardwalk Empire, etc etc etc.
post #88 of 1773
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Originally Posted by gruven42 View Post

Loving this show so far. Reminds me of the short-lived "Rubicon".

So far at least, this ain't no 'Rubicon'.

On the plus side, my buddie got a little screen time in that first episode. He was in the crowd at Brody's house waiting on him to get home. He was wearing a red baseball cap from the wardrobe department and got himself a coveted close-up shot! Later in the episode, Brody is seen wearing the same hat.
post #89 of 1773
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Originally Posted by StonesCat View Post

Yeah, since no other shows on premium channels do that........except True Blood, Game of Thrones, Dexter, Boardwalk Empire, etc etc etc.

With the exception of True Blood, those shows don't need nudity to keep them entertaining. TB, on the other hand, needs all the help it can get, especially this past season.
post #90 of 1773
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Originally Posted by bruce73 View Post

With the exception of True Blood, those shows don't need nudity to keep them entertaining. TB, on the other hand, needs all the help it can get, especially this past season.

I've always felt that shows on premium cable channels such as HBO show graphic violence, nudity, langauge etc moreso because they 'can' versus because it fits into the story...almost like they know they are on HBO so they almost feel an obligation to show lots of T&A etc...it's true that these shows would still be great without all of the NC-17 content
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