Homeland on SHO - Page 28

I am just repeating an old saying I remember hearing from the old Tom Leykis radio show so don't kill the messenger okay? The best ones in bed are the "crazy ones"!

One can only hope!

You got busted to, huh?

You'd think they'd at least investigate the last terrorist attack. Remember when black masked terrorists massacred six federal agents in the downtown of a tourist city in the middle of the day? The only evidence they left is one witness? The media should be all over that, showing the faces of the killed and demanding answers every day.

Hey, what about the safe house that Brody admitted he was taking the tailor too? He had the address. Did any of our superagents bother to ask him for it to investigate the place? They're so desperate for leads at this point that they interviewed a bottom-level terrorist who had been locked up for months! Once Aileen gave Saul a line of crap, they stormed right the hell into a random guy's house with no damn clue who the guy was (I guess they blackmailed a judge for a warrant like they did last season). Brody admitted that he has an address and they don't even ask him for it.

And remember that bombing from last season that killed a Saudi diplomat and a few other people in our nation's capital? How's that investigation going? Nothing? No surprise there.

My money is still on the terrorists. Take a look at the organization that is investigating terrorist acts on our soil. We have a director who literally screws his employees, an agent who stabs people in interviews (how'd that work, Quinn?), an agent who couldn't understand why a terrorist would give him false information ("Why would she do that?", a dumbfounded Saul asked!), and of course an agent who is lovey-dovey with her terrorist contact and apparently is helping the CIA for free since she couldn't be rehired.

Yet the terrorists can appear and disappear at will with absolute precision, never leaving a trace.

Please check if Saul carries TWO pairs of glasses, or where he got the second pair (the one he's wearing at the end and the one Aileen stabbed herself with)

He did. Regular glasses and reading glasses. He gave her the glasses to read the transfer agreement since her eyes were weak.

Oh heck no not me, I don't need to chase strange crumpets. I have a wonderful woman that appreciates me and I am taken care of. It was a close friend of mine who came home from work and his wife started sniffing him and his clothes! I was later told he got busted big time.

Isn't policy not to leave any type of item out in the open for a prisoner to use as a weapon? No I guess that's okay this time since Saul suddenly got all compassionate and left the glasses.

The same security protocol that allows cell phone in situation room and a knife in the interrogation room is not going to harp on prescription glasses.

This week's Homeland was one of the all time best episodes of serialized TV I have ever seen. The scene in the clearing (this was an aptly named episode) was overpowering. Carrie went there to work on Brody, to seduce him, but when Brody asked her if she was playing him, she told him the straight up truth: "I don't know." Wow!

I thought Brody's scene with Henning, the ex Viet Nam UDT guy, was powerful, too. When Hemming told Brody that he was proud of him because he had remained who he had been despite his wartime experience, Brody told Henning, honestly, that he wasn't that person.

I was amazed to see that so few posters seemed to appreciate this dark and difficult but, to me at least, moving, episode.

The show is trying very hard to be "moving" by putting Carrie and Brody together in as many scenes as possible even when it makes no sense. For example sending anyone but Carrie to intercept Brody and his daughter at the police station would have made sense. Now her sudden appearance has caused even more family problems for Brody (or maybe they'll just forget it). The chemistry between these two characters last season was totally unexpected by the writers so they have had to sacrifice a lot of the intelligent plot to appeal to the audience this season.

This season is also missing the clever twists and turns of last season. I had no clue what the characters would do in many episodes of last season. This season I can expect Brody to be angry and conflicted, Carrie acting like a lovesick teenager around Brody and screaming unprofessionally at her (I guess) coworkers, Jess getting fed up with Brody yet taking him back, Dana acting like a character from a WB teen drama, and Saul crouching dumbfounded over yet another terrorist that somehow committed suicide when his back was turned.

 

Wow that sounds like an awful show.  Why do you still watch it?

I have swallowed every one of this season's Carrie-Brody encounters hook line and sinker. Whenever they are together there is electricity in the air. Both are flawed and tortured but their magnetism is palpable. Every one of their encounters has made me feel as if I were watching a train wreck.

Totally agree with all points. This season has been disappointing. After a while chemistry between characters becomes irrelevant when there are large, and increasingly numerous, lapses in logic with regards to both plot and character development.
Edited by bruce73 - 11/16/12 at 3:51pm

We middle-agers often have several pairs of reading glasses lying around, so it's not a stretch that Saul might have a pair in his pocket. It was quite a lapse in judgment, however, to run away and leave them in the room with Aileen. Throughout the series, we've seen awful mistakes made by Saul, Carrie, etc. so it's not a surprise.

The funniest line this week for me was:

Warden: "...with your devil-may-care grooming and..."
Saul: "Excuse me?"

When Brody finally had the pool to himself was a beautifully shot scene, and it struck me that it was one of the few moments he had to himself. He's a pawn trying to be controlled by everyone around him - Nazir, Carrie, Jessica, VP. It's sad that he only had a few moments to be with his own thoughts.

I have a pair in every room of the house as well as my car.

I have those in every room and car as well. They're called bifocals...

But reading glasses only cost 10 bucks. I buy them in bulk.

Don't forget the daughter character. When she decided to go to the hospital and was wandering the halls, I couldn't help but think of Kim Bauer and cougars in canyons.

+1.

I actually find this season excellent. The fact that he's now working for the CIA makes him even more interesting. As much as I like Claire Danes's character, Brody is fascinating; thanks in large part to Lewis's portayal. While I'm not really excited with the whole Dana story arc, it never affect my appreciation of the show.

I've got 8 rooms in my house. Add the car and I'd need 9 pairs of reading glasses. I assure you it didn't cost me an extra $90 to convert to bifocals....

Meanwhile back to the thread, I can easily see that Saul would carry a pair of reading glasses in his coat pocket.

Agree with you here, Ihavent really had a problem with what they have done on the show so far. One of the main reasons they brought Dana up front IMO was becasue she had such a large role in the end of season 1....She has been Brody's semi confidant, and his support through everything....Now though ther lives are unraveling and being controlled in much the same way, heading towards a perfect storm of collapse.....I dont need to be excited about a plotline to appreciate it, especially when we dont know WHY they are focusing in on certain characters....We can do all the assuming we want, but unti its wrtten out for us, Ill give this show some slack, I dont need 100% realism in my shows, since they are fictional accounts, not documentaries or historical fiction.....While somethings will be based in reality, others will be done for "drama" or to move the plot along in some fashion, its what to be expected....

+4! (Or whatever it is now.) I have stated in earlier posts why I think both Carrie and Brody are fascinating. They are so flawed and vulnerable, but at the same time so dependent on each other, I can't take my eyes off of them in their scenes together. Brody's daughter, Dana, is the love of his life. For that reason he really listens to her and, it seems to me, is more influenced by her than anyone else in his life. I continue to think that Homeland is great television,

Professional Jealousy at it's finest

Score another one for the terrorists! They can now make helicopters completely silent and invisible until they're almost on top of you and then they disappear into the ether, untrackable by any technology our helpless agents have! Before this episode I thought that flying a helicopter around would be too overt for terrorists and would only expose their locations but turns out I was wrong. I was surprised that they ended up in some sort of disused warehouse. I figured the chopper would land on a terrorist aircraft carrier hidden out in the Atlantic from which Nazir, who is walking around America like he owns the place, will be launching nuclear missiles at our country any day now.

Looks like being a congressman and potential VP candidate is a nice gig. You can disappear for days and days and no one cares.

Virgil's joke from last season may eventually come true: Dana could be the next terrorist. She's full of hatred for America now that she sees the whole damn system is corrupt with politicians paying hush money to cover up murder. I expect her to wearing a bomb vest by the end of the season.

I haven't seen the last ep yet.

Is Homeland reaching Lost territory when it comes to plausibility.

You have to wonder if sometimes producers of critically well- received shows take more license.

Agreed here, personally I really liked this episode as well. Carrie playing the dual role of what is she really feeling very well... (is she playing her role or does she really love him and having her emotions take control)


I do think there is a chance Dana, could be turned, especially now, but her character is too fragile to do any actual act. She may commit suicide, but I doubt she could be turned. Much like her father her personal life is coming apart and when she tries to do the right thing, she gets roadblocked by someone elses agenda....

As far as the helicopter, from the scenes it wasnt silent at all actually it was quite loud, since they were not monitoring air traffic though, at that time they didnt know what to track, the one tracking device they did have was Brodys phone which was disabled. Not sure where you got silent from as it was the main reason they couldnt hear Carrie when she was putting eyes on Brody....

the only one saying it was untrackable is you, we neverr got to see the aftermath of what happened. With the limited resources they are using for this mission, it may be untrackable since it was long gone before they were able to hear Carrie again (which we never got confirmation they could heat her, even after they left.

who says no one would notice? the reason Roya took himw as becasue she checked and his schedule was "wide open". His wife knows he is working for the CIA so he may "dissapear", finding out that Carrie is still a part of his life, after he said she wasnt, will only make her care less about where he is.

it may be jsut me, but it seems you are trying to find things to complain about with this show....I totally udnerstand the need for a counterbalance, but this show seems like its painful for you to watch as you can find nothing good to say at all for the past number of weeks...

Not at all....If you are looking for 100% reality go watch a documentary though.....there are always going to be "convienent plot devices" to move the story along or to keep it going. this show is no where near IMO the level of Lost though.....Watch the last episode before making any judgement though maybe your view will differ...

I love Homeland, but the showrunners from 24 are starting to inject the implausible ideas from that show into this one. Do you really think the head of a worldwide terrorist organization would risk capture and come into the country that is actively hunting him down? there was a reason why bin Laden ran all of his communique through Afghanistan and Pakistan and not from some area in the US