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Question Guys....when did they stop listening to Brody's phone?

I believe the actress playing Dana is doing a great job portraying the emotions of a teenager that is put in the middle of an impossible situation: her father "thought to have died years ago" magically shows up amidst her mother having an affair with her dad's best friend. The dad that she got returned turns out to have converted to a faith readily identified with terrorism. After a difficult bonding with her dad, she finds that he is possibly having an affair with a crazy CIA lady who accused him of being a terrorist. The young love she thought she found in Finn Walden turns out to be a weasel who "killed" a woman in a hit and run, and appears a little too guilt-free after such a tragedy.

Her portrayal in the hospital and the home of the accident victim was absolutely top notch and lifelike just as you would expect to see a teenager react to (fear, anxiety, confusion, desperation, anger all at the same time). Now she has her weasel ex-boyfriend bugging her on the phone while they are holed up in a CIA safe house fearing for their life, while her father again went missing on one of his numerous "unexplained absences".

How else do you expect a teenager to react? Her brother provides a nice counterbalance, as the real airhead in the family, too thick to realize the situations they are in. Of all the characters on the show, I've come to really like and sympathize only with Dana's character. The rest of them are all too flawed and exercise bad judgment beyond the hopeless circumstances they find forced upon them. I am talking about the absolutely horrific way Brody and Jessica jump into bed with their paramours while allegedly "trying to save the marriage."

As soon as the plot required it.

It was never impled that they stopped, but they are not activley monitoring it at this point.....After he came on to the mission, they basically didnt tap unless needed....

I would expect you to think nothing different, you have sung the same tune for a nuimber of weeks.......

So you think that Dana exercised good judgement by encouraging Flin to ditch the Secret Service and drive recklessly? And to not tell anyone about running someone over? And going to the hospital where their victim was? And going to the victim's daughter after she died? I think Dana is just as scatterbrained as anyone in the Brody household.

Yes, I stick to my tune. You have alternated between praising how realistic some aspects of the show are, then reminding us that it's just a television show when people have pointed out the numerous plot holes and sloppy writing.

Since when can you not sympathize with a character becasue they make bad judgement calls? Her character is conflicted as many teenagers would be if put in the same situation.....

I would expect bits of reality (how a charracter reacts to a situation) compareed to the ficticious goings on of a show......Maybe you are looking for more reality, this def isnt and hasnt been the show since the beginning (reality wise)....Ive agred taht situations arent "realistic": but SOME of the character reactions to those situations have been, thats the difference...I dont need 100% authenticity from the situations from a fictional show, does it help sure, but I dont expect everything to actually be how it would in the real world....

what are you expecting when you consider the original producers of 24 are running this show?
do heart implants use ipv4 or ipv6? do they have a firewall built in?

Like when Brody and the big terrorist are murdering the vice pres? Got it, it's TV

Loved the video on that blackberry. Just like iPhones! (plausibility nazis!)

I thought pacemakers only communicated when a certain device was briefly pressed against the chest to wirelessly retrieve telemetry data from it, which is in turn sent in for the cardiology folks to review.

Suddenly the veep's pacemaker has full wireless access with an internet-facing IP address? Would that be cellular data or just wi-fi? ;-)

An essay I found very relevant to this discussion. I'm personally firmly in the "watching for character" camp, which is probably why I enjoyed last night more than most of you, and don't get caught up in worrying about "plausibility" too much.

This episode of 24 land was all over the place. You can definitely tell the writers from that series are on board. The show has lost all of the tension and anticipation of the first season. While they are at it they should diffrentiate between an "internal defibrillator" and a "pacemaker"! They perform two differnt functions.

I can skip along the plausibility factor to a point. I have no experience with 24, but from what I read in this string
there must have been a lot of this "Dumping" on that show that everyone recognises and apparently excepts as OK.

NO it is not okay with me! If I really want to watch 24 again I'll watch the series on Blu-ray disc. This show to my eyes is slowly turning into a nudity allowed version of what 24 wanted to be.

Perhaps I should have said some

He just made these references to illustrate the western world's opulence vs. countries that live in a state of war on an everyday basis. That seemed pretty obvious to me no? There are places in this world where the most important thing is to find a potato to eat, not an organic one... He was mocking the U.S's (as well as many others) reliance on unnecessary and futile needs. Look at us, commenting on a tv show in the comfort of our living rooms - there are many people who are not that lucky. Of course he was over-generalizing and of course that doesn't justify his actions. As Carrie kept saying to him. But like he said, he probably just doesn't care. The guy's most likely not what I'd call an open-minded person anymore... His organic foods bit was just symbolic.
Edited by Morpheo - 12/4/12 at 7:01am

Agree with you on that one, especially with the big organic movement that has been occurring over the past few years....

This show is becoming derivative and average, I'm sorry to say... Nazir is acting like a common terrorist thug - that whole conversation with Carrie was as flat and predictable as you could imagine. The acting remains quite good, however. I will simply switch my brain to 'mindless plot twists' mode when watching the remaining episodes.

I want a time machine to take me back to the Carrie-Brody confession scene, and have a do-over of everything that follows afterwards.

And I wonder how much RIM are paying Homeland to showcase their devices

I Don't know, I wish my Blackberry would stream video like that... any video at all.. LOL

'Homeland' eclipses 'Dexter' for first time with record ratings.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/homeland-eclipses-dexter-first-time-397611

Homeland is having quite a year. Starting the season playing a strong second fiddle to its Dexter lead-in, the sophomore Showtime drama topped the serial killer mainstay for the first time ever on Sunday night. It also secured a new ratings high in the process. Homeland's 10 p.m. outing pulled in 2.2 million viewers. That outranks the previous series high by roughly 130,000 viewers, and, adding the numbers from an encore later in the evening, gives the show a nightly total of 2.5 million viewers.

Don't most terrorist eat organic?

I'm expecting the Homeland marathon refrigerator guy to make an appearance soon and capture Nazir.

Groanland...

Answered with the famous Seinfeld quote: "Not that there's anything wrong with that"

Interesting how the ratings rise in direct proportion to the decreasing plausibility and intelligence of the plotlines. There's a lesson in there, folks.

I'm still enjoying it, taking it for what it is and acknowledging that it's a dramatic, oft-overheated TV show. Loved how Brody was relishing the death of the VP, taunting him as he slipped away. Now that he's dead, Nazir's leverage over Brody would seem to be limited to Carrie being a damsel in distress. So it's a good thing she went back into the warehouse ready to take down Nazir with that pipe (definition of a "pipe-dream"...?).

Yeah, at this point I'm going to have to revisit the first season - it's possible its not nearly as good as I remember it being. Maybe all the writers got electroshock at the end of last season as well?

One tiny nitpick that made me laugh this week:

When they found out about Carrie's accident, David told Saul to "...get over to 17th Street right away!"

What's the exact address? In DC, we also have two 17th Streets - one on the west side of the city, and the other on the East. It could potentially be 17th St NW, NE, or SE (there's no 17th St SW). So, Saul would not only be driving up and down a long street until he came across Carrie's car, but he might also be on the wrong street altogether!

A cross street was mentioned in front of the dispatch...

Ain't it the truth. Lol

So this is like Lost, brain-dead or dishonest writing being rewarded?

And if you're going to have nudity, get some guest actresses in there. Valerie Cruz probably won't do it and her character is like a restaurant hostess. She shows the Brodys into the swanky safe house and that's about it.