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post #961 of 1015
one of the nicest features on any roku is the netflix interface. most blurays only show as single line que for netflix, roku shows your que, search, popular and recently viewed videos. on top of that it shows a plethora of recommended video suggestions basted on your ratings and what you watch. my original roku went belly up a couple of mths ago. i figured no problem... my bluray has netflix. wrong. it only showed my que, i bought a roku2 xs and use it for %99 of my tv viewing.

also roku has 750 different channels. hbo go, hulu, nowheretv (for my news needs), plus a private porn channel for late night viewing smile.gif are my channels


i'm not sure why roku felt the need to come out with #3, they just delete motion control and ehternet from xs and added the earphone jack (which i think is cool)
post #962 of 1015
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Originally Posted by kohlgren View Post

one of the nicest features on any roku is the netflix interface. most blurays only show as single line que for netflix, roku shows your que, search, popular and recently viewed videos. on top of that it shows a plethora of recommended video suggestions basted on your ratings and what you watch. my original roku went belly up a couple of mths ago. i figured no problem... my bluray has netflix. wrong. it only showed my que, i bought a roku2 xs and use it for %99 of my tv viewing.

BD players launched in the last couple of years usually have this interface, in common with the PS3 and a zillion other devices. It's actually more powerful than the Roku's (some of which is rendered moot by the Roku 3's highly integrated search feature).
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i'm not sure why roku felt the need to come out with #3, they just delete motion control and ehternet from xs and added the earphone jack (which i think is cool)

They didn't remove either motion control or ethernet; all they eliminated was the analog A/V cable jack, making it HDMI-only. They redesigned the motion control function to use WiFi Direct instead of Bluetooth.
Edited by michaeltscott - 3/6/13 at 2:11pm
post #963 of 1015
i started at roku 3 thread so this thread stays on topic: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1461986/official-roku-3-streaming-player-theard
post #964 of 1015
Ordered mine - will check your new thread...
post #965 of 1015
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

I only had a second or 2 to look on Amazon but I didn't see any Roku 3's there today.
They're there, I have one on my wishlist. I first saw it a few minutes after midnight on March 6, they've been there ever since. Here's a link.
http://www.amazon.com/Roku-4200R-3-Streaming-Player/dp/B00BGGDVOO/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3JKNRS8A3RNTC&coliid=I1ROM1J2DTEZP1
post #966 of 1015
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Originally Posted by Matt L View Post

The Roku 3 looks interesting, But does not seem to do much more than my XS units. The headphone plug on the remote is cool, but something I'd never use. The screen shots look interesting, glad we all will be getting the upgrade soon.

Take a look: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/05/roku-3_n_2812189.html
I'm with you. If I decide I need another unit somewhere the house I'll pick one up. For now I don't see any compelling reason to upgrade from 2 XS
post #967 of 1015
ok, just got mine, setting up....ESPN3? that would make my life sooooo much easier
post #968 of 1015
People, use the Roku 3 thread please.
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Originally Posted by synistr View Post

....ESPN3? that would make my life sooooo much easier

No. Still just web, Xbox 360 and apps for iOS and Android devices.
post #969 of 1015
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

People, use the Roku 3 thread please.
No. Still just web, Xbox 360 and apps for iOS and Android devices.

iPad espn3 AirPlay to AppleTV works great. Someone needs to come up with an AirPlay channel for the Roku
post #970 of 1015
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Originally Posted by rdgcss View Post

Someone needs to come up with an AirPlay channel for the Roku

Walt Mossberg speculated later this year since they put some pieces in place. Not Airplay but similar technology. You don't really think Apple would license Airplay on Ruko do you? Just like you will not find Amazon Prime video on ATV.
post #971 of 1015
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Originally Posted by rdgcss View Post

iPad espn3 AirPlay to AppleTV works great. Someone needs to come up with an AirPlay channel for the Roku

Someone did, for Android devices at least--Playto. I'm not sure that it works with ESPN3 and I've not been impressed with video quality so I haven't bought the paid version. It's kind of cool--you just install the channel and don't have to run it. Run a video in the Android app, press a button on the screen and it pops up on your television.

The Roku app lets you display pictures and play music from your device. Hopefully someone will come up with something better.
post #972 of 1015
The twonky beam app and twonky channel on ROKU works nicely. I've played videos from both the PLEX channel and thru the twonky app (able to access local content as well as from a URL with the app) and they both appear to produce the same result thru the ROKU.
post #973 of 1015
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Not Airplay but similar technology.

Which would be "Miracast". Some were hoping that Roku 3 would have it out of the box.
post #974 of 1015
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Which would be "Miracast". Some were hoping that Roku 3 would have it out of the box.

With an Internet video AirPlay passes the URL of the video to the AppleTV and it plays the video directly from the web and the iOS device turns into a remote control. This eliminates a lot of the scaling problems. Newer devices can "mirrior" the devices screen which usually is not very pretty. Luckily this is in addition to normal AirPlay.

We need this type of function built into the Roku.
post #975 of 1015
I searched in this thread but maybe I am overlooked it but I can't find the answer. Apologies if it was answered and I missed it.

With my Roku 2 XS box I can view Netflix and Vudu and get DD+ where available. But on Amazon neither the DD or DD+ indicator flashes on even it's clear the content is 5.1. As soon as the video starts, the AVR (a Harmon Kardon) flashes PCM 44.1 briefly in the display and then automatically applies some sort of surround enhancement. So either Amazon is only sending stereo PCM or it's decoding the 5.1 audio internally and outputting PCM rather than bitstream. Or possibly Amazon thinks my bandwidth is insufficient and only sending down stereo audio?

The last possibility seems remote given I can watch Netflix in 1080p DD+ and watch Vudu in HDX with DD+ and no buffering.

Have I missed something here?

Thanks
post #976 of 1015
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Originally Posted by lchiu7 View Post

I searched in this thread but maybe I am overlooked it but I can't find the answer. Apologies if it was answered and I missed it.

With my Roku 2 XS box I can view Netflix and Vudu and get DD+ where available. But on Amazon neither the DD or DD+ indicator flashes on even it's clear the content is 5.1. As soon as the video starts, the AVR (a Harmon Kardon) flashes PCM 44.1 briefly in the display and then automatically applies some sort of surround enhancement. So either Amazon is only sending stereo PCM or it's decoding the 5.1 audio internally and outputting PCM rather than bitstream. Or possibly Amazon thinks my bandwidth is insufficient and only sending down stereo audio?

The last possibility seems remote given I can watch Netflix in 1080p DD+ and watch Vudu in HDX with DD+ and no buffering.

Have I missed something here?

Thanks
It can only pass through DD. Your last hypothesis seems most likely.

Keep starting/stopping different HD 5.1 titles and see if you can get 5.1 to play.
post #977 of 1015
Also get the speedcheck app.
post #978 of 1015
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Originally Posted by lchiu7 View Post

But on Amazon neither the DD or DD+ indicator flashes on even it's clear the content is 5.1. As soon as the video starts, the AVR (a Harmon Kardon) flashes PCM 44.1 briefly in the display and then automatically applies some sort of surround enhancement.

In what way is it "clear the content is 5.1"? Does the description of the title have the "5.1))" logo? If not, the sound is stereo. Most streaming content which originally had 5.1 sound and is being presented by the service in stereo has intact matrixed Dolby Pro Logic elements which your AVR can detect and process, which can sound pretty good. If a title's description does have the surround sound logo then you should be getting basic Dolby Digital (not Plus). If you're a Prime member, try playing Super 8--the train crash sequence about 17 minutes in has a lot of punch and sharp surround imaging.
post #979 of 1015
Just to answer all the questions.

1. The content is 5.1 since Amazon displays 5.1 on the video summary page. And the same content plays 5.1 (the AVR shows Dolby Digital) when using a Sony BDP-S390 BD player connected to a different (Pioneer) AVR. As a matter of interest I was testing using Transformer Dark of the Moon

2. I will check out Super 8 but as I note in 1. I am playing 5.1 content

3. Where is the speedcheck app? I presume you don't mean the normal speedtest.net?

4. I turned on debugging in the Roku and when it starts I have seen messages like playing 1.2mbs content on your 2.2mbs network. Now I think they mean Mbs (Megabits/sec) but whatever, their requirement is exceeded by what my network is providing so I presume the audio is not being limited by bandwidth.

Not that it's particularly relevant given different CDN's etc but this is what the Vudu speedtest gives me. This shows that my Internet connection is reasonable according to them and from what I experience. Pity Vudu costs money where Amazon Prime is free.

post #980 of 1015
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Originally Posted by lchiu7 View Post

Just to answer all the questions.

1. The content is 5.1 since Amazon displays 5.1 on the video summary page. And the same content plays 5.1 (the AVR shows Dolby Digital) when using a Sony BDP-S390 BD player connected to a different (Pioneer) AVR. As a matter of interest I was testing using Transformer Dark of the Moon

2. I will check out Super 8 but as I note in 1. I am playing 5.1 content

Then I've got no explanation; my Roku 2 XS has always output basic DD 5.1 for Amazon titles which feature it, when connected to either my Onkyo or my Sony AVR. Perhaps it has something to do with your AVR. I assume that you have surround sound set in the Roku's Audio Mode setting. Have you tried moving the Roku to your Pioneer AVR and seeing what you get when it's connected to it?
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3. Where is the speedcheck app? I presume you don't mean the normal speedtest.net?

https://owner.roku.com/add/speedtest

This will get you a channel that will test throughput to some nearby server (it will locate a list of them and give you a choice, the default being what it thinks is the closest). Testing speed with some other device is not necessarily an indicator of what you'll get on the Roku.
post #981 of 1015
Has anyone gotten the new interface for this yet? Heard it was due in April and the month is almost over. Nothing here, my XS claims it is up to date.
post #982 of 1015
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

Has anyone gotten the new interface for this yet? Heard it was due in April and the month is almost over. Nothing here, my XS claims it is up to date.

No one has seen it yet, other than beta testers. Every place that they've announced that the new interface is coming to 2nd gen Rokus they've said something different as to when. The e-mail that they sent to owners in late March said, "within a few weeks", the shop.roku.com page says "by May 20", the March 6th Roku 3 Product Announcement PR says, "in April", the Products Page says by May 2013" and a recent developer e-mail says "by the end of May" :roll:. It's a truly masterful job of obfuscation biggrin.gif.

It'll roll out when it rolls out.
post #983 of 1015
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

Has anyone gotten the new interface for this yet? Heard it was due in April and the month is almost over. Nothing here, my XS claims it is up to date.
A Roku official just posted today on their Facebook page that they would begin rolling it out in early May and have it completed by the end of the month.
post #984 of 1015
No sweat, not even a rush. Works wonderfully as is actually. But you know how it is, even if it is not necessary, but a free 'upgrade' is announced, we WANT IT NOW! wink.gif Thanks guys! cool.gif
post #985 of 1015
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

No sweat, not even a rush. Works wonderfully as is actually. But you know how it is, even if it is not necessary, but a free 'upgrade' is announced, we WANT IT NOW! wink.gif Thanks guys! cool.gif

I think it's very necessary. At least to anyone that has a bunch of apps. The old version takes a long time to go through and find the app you want. While the new one is much quicker since it shows several rows of three apps at once.
post #986 of 1015
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

I think it's very necessary. At least to anyone that has a bunch of apps. The old version takes a long time to go through and find the app you want. While the new one is much quicker since it shows several rows of three apps at once.

You can fast forward several channels at once with the fast forward button (not the arrows), plus group them into a more logical order if you use the * button in the side scrolling menu.
post #987 of 1015
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Originally Posted by krisbee View Post

You can fast forward several channels at once with the fast forward button (not the arrows), plus group them into a more logical order if you use the * button in the side scrolling menu.

Yes, it still takes longer for me to get to them than with the newer interface with my Roku 3.
post #988 of 1015
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Yes, it still takes longer for me to get to them than with the newer interface with my Roku 3.
What? 3 seconds? wink.gif
post #989 of 1015
Website states "May 2013"... cool.gif
post #990 of 1015
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

Website states "May 2013"... cool.gif

They've recently stated that the roll out of the new UI will begin in early May and be finished by the end of May. Some have already reported receiving it in the Roku forums.
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