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post #301 of 4614
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Originally Posted by woodsart View Post

Dennis is right, this Sunday, very excited, he has been listening to both pairs and says He thinks I will like them!!! HA!!!

Had a death in the family and had to re-schedule.

You guys will hear from me real soon.

I'm sorry to hear about your family's loss. Having also recently lost a family member (my younger brother), I know the impact is has on the family.
post #302 of 4614
Thanks Jim, appreciate your concern....so how are you doing with those Salks?

Can't believe....finally this weekend I get the speakers. Seems forever...but as I have told Dennis, I am a patient sort of guy.

I will reporting back with my comments on the Philharmonic 2s and the Philharmonitor 2s. Dennis said he has been listening to them and thinks I will be pleased with them....Ha!
post #303 of 4614
I trust everything went as well as it could have, Robert. It's good to have you back on the forums.
post #304 of 4614
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Originally Posted by woodsart View Post

Thanks Jim, appreciate your concern....so how are you doing with those Salks?

Can't believe....finally this weekend I get the speakers. Seems forever...but as I have told Dennis, I am a patient sort of guy.

I will reporting back with my comments on the Philharmonic 2s and the Philharmonitor 2s. Dennis said he has been listening to them and thinks I will be pleased with them....Ha!

I'm looking forward to your review.

Perhaps someday we can have that get together and compare notes. I'm curious if the Philly2 sounds much different than the prototype I heard (using a BG10 rather than the BG8 for the midrange). I suspect they would sound essentially the same since Dennis told me he decided to go with the BG8 in the final production version because there was no audible benefit to using the BG10.
post #305 of 4614
Thanks Brandon, it is good to be back, will still have to make another Texas trip to clear out my Mom's estate, but no biggie. Things went really well with all the family support, just wonderful to have that. I am sort of relieved in a strange way that she is not suffering with meds, Doctors, and hospitals, not to mention the pain. At this moment, I do not think she would trade what she has now for what she had. I certainly would not!

Anyway, She is with her maker, her husband and my brother, so I know she is very happy.

A buyer just walked out with my infinities, boohoo!!! Loved those speakers, sad to see them go, but hey look what is replacing them. BBF

No turning back now, gotta go to Bethesda!

Yes, Jim I am looking forward to giving my impressions on the towers and monitors.

And, we know what Dennis ends up with in his designs is the best to be had for the dollar, right?
post #306 of 4614
Thread Starter 
Woodsart,

Sorry to hear about your mother.

I lost my brother a little over 3 years ago and then my mother 6 months after that. Things get easier but a hole is never filled, but to me never should be.

Keep your head up.

James
post #307 of 4614
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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post

I'm looking forward to your review.

Perhaps someday we can have that get together and compare notes. I'm curious if the Philly2 sounds much different than the prototype I heard (using a BG10 rather than the BG8 for the midrange). I suspect they would sound essentially the same since Dennis told me he decided to go with the BG8 in the final production version because there was no audible benefit to using the BG10.

I forgot that you had heard the experiment with the 10's. Wasn't I using the Fountek tweet instead of the RAAL? I can't remember.
post #308 of 4614
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Originally Posted by Dennis Murphy View Post

I forgot that you had heard the experiment with the 10's. Wasn't I using the Fountek tweet instead of the RAAL? I can't remember.

Hi Dennis.

Good to see all the buzz about you new Philharmonics. Looks like it's going well. I wish you much success.

You were using the RAALs on the prototype I heard. We also discussed the differences in response depending on the use of the foam pads.

You were very gracious in letting me take up your whole day comparing the Phils to the HT2-TL.

So do you think the final production version of the Phil2 turned out much different than the prototype?
post #309 of 4614
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Originally Posted by woodsart View Post

..........and, we know what dennis ends up with in his designs is the best to be had for the dollar, right?

+1!
post #310 of 4614
Well, no infinities....gone, gone!!

CAOW1s, now in the theater, soon to be gone....empty speaker stands now!

No turning back.....

Will get some pics Sunday.
post #311 of 4614
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Originally Posted by woodsart View Post

Thanks Brandon, it is good to be back, will still have to make another Texas trip to clear out my Mom's estate, but no biggie. Things went really well with all the family support, just wonderful to have that. I am sort of relieved in a strange way that she is not suffering with meds, Doctors, and hospitals, not to mention the pain. At this moment, I do not think she would trade what she has now for what she had. I certainly would not!

Anyway, She is with her maker, her husband and my brother, so I know she is very happy.

A buyer just walked out with my infinities, boohoo!!! Loved those speakers, sad to see them go, but hey look what is replacing them. BBF

No turning back now, gotta go to Bethesda!

Yes, Jim I am looking forward to giving my impressions on the towers and monitors.

And, we know what Dennis ends up with in his designs is the best to be had for the dollar, right?

You're a strong man - Phil 4:13 buddy!

I am very much looking forward to your review of the Phil's. I hope the snow storm was just got hit with doesn't deter your trip this weekend. Stay safe my friend!
post #312 of 4614
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Originally Posted by woodsart View Post

Well, no infinities....gone, gone!!

CAOW1s, now in the theater, soon to be gone....empty speaker stands now!

No turning back.....

Will get some pics Sunday.

Your getting rid of the CAOW1's?
post #313 of 4614
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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post

Your getting rid of the CAOW1's?

Man, don't say it like that, it hurts too much!

Let's just say I am getting a pair of their twin children, instead, all grown up!

Whoohoo a good review on Dennis' Philharmonic 2s !!!!!

From Bob,

http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/spe...31/312584.html
post #314 of 4614
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Originally Posted by woodsart View Post

Man, don't say it like that, it hurts too much!

Let's just say I am getting a pair of their twin children, instead, all grown up!

Whoohoo a good review on Dennis' Philharmonic 2s !!!!!

From Bob,

http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/spe...31/312584.html

That review has me seriously considering selling my ST's... I doubt I'll ever be able to afford the SoundScapes (my dream speakers), so the next best thing is the Phil's, which are not out of my price range. I'm so torn...don't want to offend anyone or lead someone to believe I am unhappy with what I have (I'm not - things are sounding amazing). This is going to be a tough decision...
post #315 of 4614
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Originally Posted by woodsart View Post


Man, don't say it like that, it hurts too much!

Let's just say I am getting a pair of their twin children, instead, all grown up!

Whoohoo a good review on Dennis' Philharmonic 2s !!!!!

From Bob,

http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/spe...31/312584.html

Awesome review!! Thanks for posting!
post #316 of 4614
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

That review has me seriously considering selling my ST's... I doubt I'll ever be able to afford the SoundScapes (my dream speakers), so the next best thing is the Phil's, which are not out of my price range. I'm so torn...don't want to offend anyone or lead someone to believe I am unhappy with what I have (I'm not - things are sounding amazing). This is going to be a tough decision...

I'm sure it's just upgraditis.

It seems to me Bob's review indicates that the Philharmonic speakers combine the best of both worlds - that ultra airy smooth RAAL ribbon tweeter with that ultra wide transparent BG Neo ribbon midrange.
post #317 of 4614
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Originally Posted by AcuDefTechGuy View Post

I'm sure it's just upgraditis.

It seems to me Bob's review indicates that the Philharmonic speakers combine the best of both worlds - that ultra airy smooth RAAL ribbon tweeter with that ultra wide transparent BG Neo ribbon midrange.

I assure you, it isn't upgraditis. I am VERY happy with my system! This is just one of those situations that might be too good to be true. I mean, I'd be getting near SoundScape quality for $2000.

I've heard almost every Salk speaker, all of which had the crossovers done by Dennis; he also may have helped picked the drivers used (???). Based on that I am confident I'll like this designs. That's not what's holding me back, though...

Anyway, anyone who is on the fence or looking for music speakers for $1500-$3000: seriously, what is hold you back? Just look at his posted measurements on the website for goodness sake! Outstanding!!!
post #318 of 4614
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

That review has me seriously considering selling my ST's... I doubt I'll ever be able to afford the SoundScapes (my dream speakers), so the next best thing is the Phil's, which are not out of my price range. I'm so torn...don't want to offend anyone or lead someone to believe I am unhappy with what I have (I'm not - things are sounding amazing). This is going to be a tough decision...

Ugh........I shouldn't have read that review.

When I auditioned the prototype it was a tough choice between it and the HT2-TL. Dennis can attest to the fact that I struggled with a decision as I spent all day there comparing the two. In the end, cosmetics won. I also had some concern about not being able to place the Phil2 out far enough from the wall (my max is about 30" from the front of the speaker to the wall behind them).

Now I'm really tempted to give the Phil2's a try in my home. To be fair, Dennis did offer to let me try a pair at home back when I did the audition. Perhaps I might ask him if the offer is still good (although it's been over a year since that audition).

Or maybe I need to stop visiting these forums so I won't be tempted.
post #319 of 4614
Thread Starter 
Nuance,

Would there be any issues with the space needed behind the speakers for your room? I assume not since you are eyeing them but figured I would ask since Bob was talking about a 4 foot distance.

Also, you only live once so I say get them and go. And I do not think anyone who has seen you post would feel offended by you trying another speaker or that you do not love what you have now. You seem to be a good ambassador for Salk (not meant in a bad way).

James
post #320 of 4614
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Originally Posted by exojam View Post

Nuance,

Would there be any issues with the space needed behind the speakers for your room? I assume not since you are eyeing them but figured I would ask since Bob was talking about a 4 foot distance.

Also, you only live once so I say get them and go. And I do not think anyone who has seen you post would feel offended by you trying another speaker or that you do not love what you have now. You seem to be a good ambassador for Salk (not meant in a bad way).

James

Hi I think Bob was saying that the fronts of the cabinets should be 4 feet from the rear wall. And you can get by with less than that. I certainly wouldn't suggest that any owners of Salk speakers rush out to buy Philharmonics. I tried to get the best sound possible out of both lines, and each has some trade-offs. Which you prefer will be very much a question of personal taste, and an audition is crucial. I'm still hoping to make it out to the KarmaFest, but the logistics will be difficult.
post #321 of 4614
Thread Starter 
Dennis,

Thank you for the clarification on that section.

James
post #322 of 4614
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

That review has me seriously considering selling my ST's... I doubt I'll ever be able to afford the SoundScapes (my dream speakers), so the next best thing is the Phil's, which are not out of my price range. I'm so torn...don't want to offend anyone or lead someone to believe I am unhappy with what I have (I'm not - things are sounding amazing). This is going to be a tough decision...

Who knows how long Dennis is going to enjoy doing this Phil stuff. This looks like a lot of work day in and day out.... i'd get a bit bored of it after a few months... These things are a sort of limited edition in my eyes.

Even if you love your song towers, you can't miss the opportunity to snatch up a limited edition collector's item. Who cares if they even only sounded the exact same, when one's made by a growing business and the other's there as one man's hobby.

^^^ did that work???? I made it all up to convince you to buy the Phils. Vicariousness is the lifeblood of audio forums!!!!!!!
post #323 of 4614
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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post

Ugh........I shouldn't have read that review.

When I auditioned the prototype it was a tough choice between it and the HT2-TL. Dennis can attest to the fact that I struggled with a decision as I spent all day there comparing the two. In the end, cosmetics won. I also had some concern about not being able to place the Phil2 out far enough from the wall (my max is about 30" from the front of the speaker to the wall behind them).

Now I'm really tempted to give the Phil2's a try in my home. To be fair, Dennis did offer to let me try a pair at home back when I did the audition. Perhaps I might ask him if the offer is still good (although it's been over a year since that audition).

Or maybe I need to stop visiting these forums so I won't be tempted.

Haha, maybe you're right: I should just stay OFF the forums.

If I was you I'd PM Dennis about that offer.

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Originally Posted by exojam View Post

Nuance,

Would there be any issues with the space needed behind the speakers for your room? I assume not since you are eyeing them but figured I would ask since Bob was talking about a 4 foot distance.

Also, you only live once so I say get them and go. And I do not think anyone who has seen you post would feel offended by you trying another speaker or that you do not love what you have now. You seem to be a good ambassador for Salk (not meant in a bad way).

James

Ambassador? Ha! Maybe with some emphasis on that middle section of the word?

Yes, I have plenty of room between the back wall and my Salk's right now. In fact, I think 4 feet is right around where they are from the back of the speaker, so I have a bit more wiggle room.

You make a valid point about only living once. Hmm...

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Originally Posted by Eternal Velocity View Post

Who knows how long Dennis is going to enjoy doing this Phil stuff. This looks like a lot of work day in and day out.... i'd get a bit bored of it after a few months... These things are a sort of limited edition in my eyes.

Even if you love your song towers, you can't miss the opportunity to snatch up a limited edition collector's item. Who cares if they even only sounded the exact same, when one's made by a growing business and the other's there as one man's hobby.

^^^ did that work???? I made it all up to convince you to buy the Phils. Vicariousness is the lifeblood of audio forums!!!!!!!

LOL - too cool. Thanks, EV. I have some deciding to do, and I'll be running it by the wife (of course) before making any decisions. She's into the aesthetics, so...
post #324 of 4614
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

I assure you, it isn't upgraditis. I am VERY happy with my system! This is just one of those situations that might be too good to be true. I mean, I'd be getting near SoundScape quality for $2000.

I've heard almost every Salk speaker, all of which had the crossovers done by Dennis; he also may have helped picked the drivers used (???). Based on that I am confident I'll like this designs. That's not what's holding me back, though...

Anyway, anyone who is on the fence or looking for music speakers for $1500-$3000: seriously, what is hold you back? Just look at his posted measurements on the website for goodness sake! Outstanding!!!


Don't be shy, go for it!

Us WI audio folks need something to do this time of year anyway! Seriously though, if you can get past the aesthetics, they are probably a great buy.

B
post #325 of 4614
I thought I saw a link to a review or something here that had a good picture of how the Phils look with the grills on, but now I can't find it.

Anyone have that link?

Thanks.
post #326 of 4614
Click on the link Jim and then click on the "view"

http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/spe...31/312584.html
post #327 of 4614
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Originally Posted by woodsart View Post

Click on the link Jim and then click on the "view"

http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/spe...31/312584.html

Thanks.
post #328 of 4614
Y'all need to stop reading these reviews.

They're just preconditioning your opinions.

Just order blindly
post #329 of 4614
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Originally Posted by eternal velocity View Post

y'all need to stop reading these reviews.

They're just preconditioning your opinions.

Just order blindly :d

+1
post #330 of 4614
What's the plan for a center? For a stereo pair, these Phils may be the best SQ/dollar ratio to be found, but I don't have room for a floorstanding center. Is there a Horizontal Harmonic in the works?

Jay
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