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post #391 of 4129
1/19/12 at 8:20am
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Thanks so much for that review, Greg. So do you like your new speakers?

Nuance,
I am very very happy with them. I still have not hooked the Tyler Signatures back up to compare as always seems to be something else requiring my time. Once the kid's swim season ends will have some time to work on that hopefully--though then outdoor tasks rear their heads again.
Still playing around with placement, amount of polyfill, toe in etc but have gotten better about just ENJOYING THE MUSIC. Some point gotta forget the small things and enjoy the ride.
Would also like to point out that one of the most impressive things about the Phils is that I still enjoy the compressed lower res mp3 stuff and l-tunes tracks even though not quite as top notch as well recorded SACD/DVD-A or even redbook CD.
Greg
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post #392 of 4129
1/19/12 at 8:22am
Using new set of Audioengine A5+ - trying to run its Variable Out to subwoofer that accepts line level signals. Get no audio from the A5+ to the Sub.

I know sub is working (can run an iPod touch signal to it).

Anyone have any experience with the A5+ variable out? I'm thinking it may not be a line out signal but a preamp signal.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
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post #393 of 4129
1/19/12 at 8:24am
Congratulations Dennis on the CD.....Oh, and another good review!!!
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post #394 of 4129
1/19/12 at 8:25am
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Using new set of Audioengine A5+ - trying to run its Variable Out to subwoofer that accepts line level signals. Get no audio from the A5+ to the Sub.

I know sub is working (can run an iPod touch signal to it).

Anyone have any experience with the A5+ variable out? I'm thinking it may not be a line out signal but a preamp signal.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Think this might belong somewhere else if really hope to get an answer.
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post #395 of 4129
1/19/12 at 8:29am
Thought was posting a new thread - new to forum. Looking around, don't see how to start a new thread. Can you help? Thanks!
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post #396 of 4129
1/19/12 at 8:36am
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Thought was posting a new thread - new to forum. Looking around, don't see how to start a new thread. Can you help? Thanks!

Sent you a PM. Just didn't want ya waiting for a bus that would never arrive so to speak
G
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post #397 of 4129
1/19/12 at 8:50am
Thanks - got it! Also couldn't find out how to reply as private message - have been off forum for several years.
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post #398 of 4129
1/19/12 at 11:35am
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Originally Posted by energyfun View Post

Quick impressions of my Phil 3s.
Vocals oustanding. Voice on Dennis' Demo Disc of Sarah McLachlan Angel are hauting in quality. Her voice is pitch perfect and seems to come from a limitless black background. You feel like you are in a small venue such as a club where she is on a slightly elevated stage a few feet from you, like a real person in the room with you rather than a recording of one. Similar for Jennifer Warnes Way Down Deep and Bird on a Wire from this disc you get a great 3d soundstage and outstanding female voice emerging. On former the bass truly made me smile and was felt as well as seen. Phantom of the Opera Music of the Night by Michael Crawford and Remember Me with he, Srah Brightman and ? I felt like I was at a real performance. The voices were perfectly placed in space stage right/left and had body and heft to them like an actor/actress in real life dimensions, again emotional and moving to listen to. Mormon Tabernacle Choir sounds like a real choir with appropriate size and power to the sound coming from the speaker and an image that is wider and deeper than the 12 ft between my mains. Even modern stuff like Beyonce and Rihanna sound realistic and well recorded even though maybe not the best material : ^)
instrumentation, again outstanding. Allows me to appreciate Dennis' role as a musician in the design and performance. Dvorak New World Symphony , Beethoven's 9th Ode to Joy sound like full orchestra with massed strings, brass, woodwinds etc all in proper place and true to the sound of the instrument producing them (i.e. a flute sounds like a flute and can hear artist taking breaths, violin can hear the bow drawing across strings and the low basses on Largo for the Dvorak piece had me smiling ear to ear. Dire Straits DVD-audio of Brothers in Arms palyers are arranged so that if close your eyes can 'see' everything like it was in the studio and Mark Knopfler's voice is extremely life-like.
Highly recommend Dennis' speakers as will never look back.
Greg

So everything sounded super crystal clear? Super accurate? super dynamic? very open sound? the sound was very exciting? very emotional?

The sound was not boring? it makes you want to listen for a long long time?

No listening fatigue?
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post #399 of 4129
1/19/12 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by woodsart View Post

congratulations dennis on the cd.....oh, and another good review!!!:d

+1!
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post #400 of 4129
1/19/12 at 2:57pm
Something interesting I just ran across.......

SVS has a tool called "Merlin" that helps you choose a sub based on the brand and model of speaker you are using. Looking through the list of speaker brands, I found Dennis' Philharmonic Audio (1, 2, and 3).



Given that my SVS sub works very well with my HT2-TLs, I would think they would also work very well with the Philharmonics.
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post #401 of 4129
1/19/12 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by AcuDefTechGuy View Post

So everything sounded super crystal clear? Super accurate? super dynamic? very open sound? the sound was very exciting? very emotional?

The sound was not boring? it makes you want to listen for a long long time?

No listening fatigue?

Pretty much yes, do recall a couple of less than stellar pieces that were terminated before running their course but then the old lipstick on a pig thing comes to mind Not had any really really extended listening like 3-4 hours but 1-2 here and there allows for good time.
Greg
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post #402 of 4129
1/20/12 at 5:38am
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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post

Something interesting I just ran across.......

SVS has a tool called "Merlin" that helps you choose a sub based on the brand and model of speaker you are using. Looking through the list of speaker brands, I found Dennis' Philharmonic Audio (1, 2, and 3).



Given that my SVS sub works very well with my HT2-TLs, I would think they would also work very well with the Philharmonics.

That's really cool - thanks for bringing that to our attention. I think it speaks a lot for Dennis' work.
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post #403 of 4129
1/20/12 at 8:44am
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Originally Posted by energyfun View Post

Pretty much yes, do recall a couple of less than stellar pieces that were terminated before running their course but then the old lipstick on a pig thing comes to mind Not had any really really extended listening like 3-4 hours but 1-2 here and there allows for good time.
Greg

Mucho yes.....mucho yes. I just told Brandon this.....so I will repeat it here.....

The "unqualified music" would be my only drawback for these speakers, they are constantly improving my ears!!!

Couldn't be more thrilled. The monitors are "tickling my innerds" as I am using the Musical Paradise MK2 with them and wow, they are stunning the founted is a sweet little tweet! The 7" seas, well, simply marvelous with beautiful tight... clear...... clean..... bass....even with tubes! and of course the MSII+!

Still adjusting, got some pads today for the Phil2s, so we will see, spikes might be next or Herbies Audio Lab dots, dunno, just experimenting. They sound....well....just wonderful....don't know what to do with myself, so many speakers, back and forth.....back and forth.....listening to one set and comparing another,

Gail asked what did I do today, but I just can't say. She knows!!!

Like I said Dennis has winners, the Philharmonitors could be pricey, but, but, the quality is unsurpassed with his design and sound! They sound like the songtowers (to me), which if it weren't for God, I could have worshipped, but that ant gonna happen, not even Dennis, sorry DM!!!

And, finally, I have my dream speakers and I think I will be happy for a very long time....to death do us part!!! LOL

If I keep this up then I probably won't need a review!!
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post #404 of 4129
1/20/12 at 9:43am
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If I keep this up then I probably won't need a review!!

Oh, we still want a review from you.
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post #405 of 4129
1/20/12 at 11:14pm
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Originally Posted by woodsart View Post

Mucho yes.....mucho yes. I just told Brandon this.....so I will repeat it here.....

The "unqualified music" would be my only drawback for these speakers, they are constantly improving my ears!!!

Couldn't be more thrilled. The monitors are "tickling my innerds" as I am using the Musical Paradise MK2 with them and wow, they are stunning the founted is a sweet little tweet! The 7" seas, well, simply marvelous with beautiful tight... clear...... clean..... bass....even with tubes! and of course the MSII+!

Still adjusting, got some pads today for the Phil2s, so we will see, spikes might be next or Herbies Audio Lab dots, dunno, just experimenting. They sound....well....just wonderful....don't know what to do with myself, so many speakers, back and forth.....back and forth.....listening to one set and comparing another,

Gail asked what did I do today, but I just can't say. She knows!!!

Like I said Dennis has winners, the Philharmonitors could be pricey, but, but, the quality is unsurpassed with his design and sound! They sound like the songtowers (to me), which if it weren't for God, I could have worshipped, but that ant gonna happen, not even Dennis, sorry DM!!!

And, finally, I have my dream speakers and I think I will be happy for a very long time....to death do us part!!! LOL

If I keep this up then I probably won't need a review!!

Woodsart, may i ask what do you mean by unqualify music?
Would soft rock consider unqualify music?
Have you tried to play with the amout of fill to see if that could improve with those music?

Thank you.
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post #406 of 4129
1/21/12 at 7:42am
Richard,

"Unqualified", guess I could of said that better.....however, soft rock sounds "numero uno" with the Phil2s and the philharmonitor2s!!l Without a question.

I think I meant not good enough, older or bad recorded version or bad internet connection music of any kind would not be that great through any speaker.

Dennis pointed that out to me whilst I was there, and I assumed that some orchestral scores with multible violins can sound bright and annoying. I found that to be true, but this would not be the speakers, but the quality of the recording/connection, thus would not "qualify" for a good song to audition for a review.

When I got home with the speakers I just hooked them up not checking the fill. Later I found and remembered that Dennis supplied extra and some of it or a lot of it was in the right speaker, so I removed that.

Like I mentioned earlier, my ears are adjusting, (which didn't take much). Just applied some temporary pads underneath. Listened about 2 hours yesterday, without any fatique, almost feel asleep with the amazing soothing reproductions of what I believe to be coming from a really good, solid set (s) of speakers.

Another note, the Phil2s are used for 2 channel and theater.

Furthermore, I will be eqing them on Monday, provided that I am not called to Texas.
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post #407 of 4129
1/21/12 at 7:52am
Woodsart, I am looking forward for your review of the Philharmonic 2s also. Take your time. It took me over two months to write a review of my SoundScapes in the open baffle mode. I was not used to open baffle speakers so it took me a lot of experimenting to feel that I was getting the best out of them.

Of course, after that experience, it just took me a couple of weeks to do the Philharmonic 2s.

Bob
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post #408 of 4129
1/21/12 at 8:52am
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Woodsart, I am looking forward for your review of the Philharmonic 2s also. Take your time. It took me over two months to write a review of my SoundScapes in the open baffle mode. I was not used to open baffle speakers so it took me a lot of experimenting to feel that I was getting the best out of them.

Of course, after that experience, it just took me a couple of weeks to do the Philharmonic 2s.

Bob

Hey, Bob, Robert here!!!!

I am afraid it will take me 2 months to compile a good review, especially when I am not as savvy as some of you guys. And, this is my first open baffle speaker. I did try them this morning against the wall and cabinet and the sound was superb.....that is just an amazing feat by itself.

I should get things straight by the end of next week, but like I said I am waiting for a call from Texas....could leave any moment. Which could delay everything.

Regardless....it ain't gonna be a negative review that is for sure.....far, far from it!!!! I just want to be clear enough for all these audio guys!!! he he!!! I don't necessarily talk their talk, but I do hear what they hear, just telling it is the hard part.
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post #409 of 4129
1/21/12 at 12:16pm
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Hey, Bob, Robert here!!!!

I am afraid it will take me 2 months to compile a good review, especially when I am not as savvy as some of you guys. And, this is my first open baffle speaker. I did try them this morning against the wall and cabinet and the sound was superb.....that is just an amazing feat by itself.

I should get things straight by the end of next week, but like I said I am waiting for a call from Texas....could leave any moment. Which could delay everything.

Regardless....it ain't gonna be a negative review that is for sure.....far, far from it!!!! I just want to be clear enough for all these audio guys!!! he he!!! I don't necessarily talk their talk, but I do hear what they hear, just telling it is the hard part.

Thanks,
Take care what you need to. We will be paient.
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post #410 of 4129
1/21/12 at 12:42pm
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Dennis pointed that out to me whilst I was there, and I assumed that some orchestral scores with multible violins can sound bright and annoying. I found that to be true, but this would not be the speakers, but the quality of the recording/connection, thus would not "qualify" for a good song to audition for a review.

Right.

Since you've got a separates amp, you should experiment with defeatable EQ... a 3db/decade low pass filter starting at about 2khz. That seems to help bright recordings on otherwise flat speakers.
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post #411 of 4129
1/21/12 at 3:10pm
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Originally Posted by Eternal Velocity View Post

Right.

Since you've got a separates amp, you should experiment with defeatable EQ... a 3db/decade low pass filter starting at about 2khz. That seems to help bright recordings on otherwise flat speakers.

Thanks, yeah with 2 amps changes things a bit, but audyssey does a good job for me in such a large strange set-up room, 9' ceilings and hardwoods, huge sofa and chair and a half doesn't at all help with the obviously issue.

However, with the infinities the Onkyo did an excellent job in creating the sweet spot. I am looking forward to getting things back the way they were and with the Phil2s, the music will be much, much better and is even much, much better at the moment.

And, thanks, Richard for your patience!!!!

A sneak peak.....the RAAL produces loud and clear detail! The fountek is not shabby at all, both of them get my highest approval!
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post #412 of 4129
1/21/12 at 4:27pm
If you use Audyssey then I would recommend that you test it by switching between it and the flat mode. I have $5k TACT room control preamp and each time I used it I thought the bypass mode sounded better. Dennis does a great job on the crossover.

Bob
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post #413 of 4129
1/21/12 at 8:32pm
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If you use Audyssey then I would recommend that you test it by switching between it and the flat mode. I have $5k TACT room control preamp and each time I used it I thought the bypass mode sounded better. Dennis does a great job on the crossover.

Bob

Bob, thanks, but boominess has been solved!!!!!.......

I hadn't check the Onkyo 806 settings in awhile, so I realized that Audyssey EQ was on (EQed with the infinities), so I turned it off. And, in the same check, I found The THX optimizer was also on, the THX loudness on also,......and one other setting, so with everything off, the Phillys really shined with clarity I had not heard since CAF or at Dennis'.

It could have been the connnection/settings or just the connection alone this evening, but I believe it was those settings that were on that caused the speaker distortion/boominess in the bass section.

In fact, I believe, the Phil2s in this case were working to produce a musical experience, but were fighting an outside influence, which made them slightly overboard in the bass end. And, they do not need any extra help. I also believe I found that out tonight.

I will include this in my review-I think it's noteworthy.

Any other comments or suggestions would be appreciated...

The "sound of music" tonight was as perfect as I can imagine....L*I*V*E.
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post #414 of 4129
1/21/12 at 9:44pm
I am sooOooooo jealous mon ami! !
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post #415 of 4129
1/22/12 at 9:59am
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Bob, thanks, but boominess has been solved!!!!!.......

I hadn't check the Onkyo 806 settings in awhile, so I realized that Audyssey EQ was on (EQed with the infinities), so I turned it off. And, in the same check, I found The THX optimizer was also on, the THX loudness on also,......and one other setting, so with everything off, the Phillys really shined with clarity I had not heard since CAF or at Dennis'.

Now you know why I have Audyssey, THX, and every single EQ, DSP, Tones completely turned OFF!

That is why I like it PURE.

The only thing Audyssey, THX, Tones, DSP, and any room corrections have ever done was hold back my speakers, and they include NHT SuperZero, DefTech BP7000SC & BP7001SC, P362, Salon2, Orion, KEF 201/2.

Not for me.

DenPureSound used to believe in Audyssey XT32 when he was using the Klipsch. Now he has the BP7001SC, he also thinks Audyssey XT32 holds back his speakers. So he also turned Audyssey off.

I could be wrong, but I never heard anyone say any room corrections ever improved the Salon2, KEF Reference, Orion, and now Philharmonic.
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post #416 of 4129
1/22/12 at 10:51am
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Now you know why I have Audyssey, THX, and every single EQ, DSP, Tones completely turned OFF!

That is why I like it PURE.

The only thing Audyssey, THX, Tones, DSP, and any room corrections have ever done was hold back my speakers, and they include NHT SuperZero, DefTech BP7000SC & BP7001SC, P362, Salon2, Orion, KEF 201/2.

Not for me.

DenPureSound used to believe in Audyssey XT32 when he was using the Klipsch. Now he has the BP7001SC, he also thinks Audyssey XT32 holds back his speakers. So he also turned Audyssey off.

I could be wrong, but I never heard anyone say any room corrections ever improved the Salon2, KEF Reference, Orion, and now Philharmonic.


If you can limit the corrections to 250 Hz and below, and if the equalizer is high quality, I think it would have to improve response given all the bad things rooms and floor bounce do to bass. But I'm running mine nude also, and seem to be muddling through.
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1/22/12 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by Dennis Murphy View Post

If you can limit the corrections to 250 Hz and below, and if the equalizer is high quality, I think it would have to improve response given all the bad things rooms and floor bounce do to bass. But I'm running mine nude also, and seem to be muddling through.

Personally, i don't mind room induced response peaks. Maybe i'm just not picky enough a listener... unless male voices sound chesty.

But i really do mind room induced nulls, and EQ won't fix that. The nulls in my room are really big and make everything a headache. Only well placed subs will fix that, and even then won't work above 100hz.

So between 100hz and 300hz there's nothing I can do but live with it, or shell out for bass traps. ( )

But I truly do feel that if you've got peaks caused by the room, a bit of parametric EQ makes more sense than nothing at all.
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post #418 of 4129
1/22/12 at 12:38pm
ET, sorry man, but, you can just saving your .02 or sell something, like a yard sale

ADTG......

"That is why I like it PURE." Agreed!!!

Pure Audio on the Onk/XPA-5 is the only way for me now, as things are just great without any help.

I think, however, I really do need to upgrade for a really good high end amp for these at some point. Maybe we can start a thread in Dennis' home Forum on AC as to what everyone is driving the Phils.
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post #419 of 4129
1/22/12 at 1:20pm
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I think, however, I really do need to upgrade for a really good high end amp for these at some point.

What exactly are the qualifiers for a really good high end amp?
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post #420 of 4129
1/22/12 at 1:29pm
ET, I need for someone to tell me that! There are just too many out there to pick from that would be in my budget.
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