Philharmonic Audio - Dennis Murphy - Page 24

[quote=Nuance;21748267]The F15HP is sealed...did you mean the FV15HP? If so, yes, that's the one. It's a monster subwoofer (in a good way). Check out the CEA-2010 SPL chart:


And here is the room size certification pic:



Yes means the FV15HP, thx i'll look at that way... will order that one as soon as Dennis murphy is ready with my order

thank you very much, ill start with this one and ill just add another in a 1 year or 2 if its not enough

Cool! You'll have an amazing system very soon - congrats!

Thanks again for your opinion.

I will go out on a limb and presume that the one ultra is the FV15HP. While it's tempting to follow anarkhia's lead and start with this and potentially a second, I wonder which model you would recommend for two lesser subs. If I can work out placement I think this would be ideal, but it may be an issue. To the right side of my HT area is a bar area, which limits my placement of a second sub to the left side of the room. Size matters?

Size does matter, as the driver and enclosure work together. Ports make the cabinet size a little less important, but it still plays a major role.

What about dual SVS PB-12 NSD's, Outlaw LFM-1 EX's or (at the high end), HSU VTF-15H's? Of course, you could have Funkywaves (Funk Audio) build you anything you want and get more performance for your $$$.

I'll actually be using two SVS PB Pluses with the Phils. I also have four Ultras I run with my HT.

Wow!

now that is funny! ^^

lol.

I'm currently using the two Pluses with the Focal Electras and it sounds pretty nice.

I vote wow too! I wonder, how do you ever keep fillings in your teeth?

Haha actually I have them turned down (on the 2 ch side but REALLY hot for HT) so they blend nicely. Just some low end kick.

You've got an awesome setup there, d_m1010! Once the Phil's arrive it'll be even better.

Thanks man. The upstream components are a Bryston 4BSST2, Benchmark dac1, a YBA CD3 transport, and a computer for lossless.

I'm officially jealous

What is lossless? specially since my computer is already plugged into my AVR via Hdmi to watch streaming or torrent thing im downloading?

its possible to get audio or video on the computer without losing quality?

Lossless refers to the compression of digitally stored audio files. With lossless format the compression algorithm does not lose any bits from the original, and is the preferred method for storing music on computer or NAS. FLAC (open source) is the most popular and the one I used to archive my CD collection.

Edit: Lossless doesn't have to refer solely to audio files, sorry. Any data compression that preserves original content bit for bit can be referred to as lossless.

Finally guys, i've made my choice... ordered this for my Phil 2

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=849

which is basically this
http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=891

Ill keep up with you as soon as everything is wired at home ( about a month)

Needs anything special in the computer? My comp is a War machine but i'm using the motherboard soundcard, does it have any incidence on the sound quality?

Wow - that is huge! I hope it works out well for you.

+1

Nope, you can hook up either digital SPDIF or analog (3mm to RCA), SPDIF preferred if your onboard sound has it. A lot of folks fret about high end external DACs, I never could figure out the justification for it, so IMO it's not necessary. (sorry to others in the 'fret' column!)

You will need CD ripping software, EAC, foobar2000 and dbpoweramp are the top 3, I prefer dbpoweramp ($38). In one pass I ripped everything to FLAC uncompressed, 240kbps MP3 and WAV (just to be safe, I guess). I used 16-bit 44.1 kHz native CD resolution, staying as close to the source as possible.

Very nice!

you guys do know the phil 2's (in my room) are measuring +/- 2db down to about 29hz...I have one null and hump I deal with in the 70/90 range (damn floor jousts vibrate the room i think), but the phils dig deep.

This is not the BS measurements you get from retail speakers. There is very little music that will challenge a phil 2.

I might get some very small subs to try to work out my peak and suck out I get in my room...but thats my room, not the speakers.

My SVS PB 12/plus 2 is turned down to 16hz tune with only 10 percent gain to blend and crush movies.

I got the center in this week - its awesome.

I plan on watching some stuff tonight and will post a report this weekend.

Hi Twylight,
I'm looking at the Philharmonic 1 and center channel can you post a picture of the center channel. Also how long did it take to get the center channel. I've got the Anthem MRX500 and do you think it will be enough to power the Philharmonic 1's and center channel. thanks

Thanks, looking forward to it. I fretted for awhile whether to order 2's or 3's, finally coming to the conclusion that the 2's would be fine, save the extra $ for a sub. Dennis said pretty much the same, unless I'm heavily into pipe organ I probably wouldn't miss anything.

Based on your sub levels, are you running these large?



http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post21669205

1 - yes ill take some shots tonight
2 - it came about a week after my mains
3 - how big is your room, where are you sitting?

I can drive myself out of my room off any receiver in the same class as an Anthem MRX500 - my room is 14wx20dx10h with 10 feet for first seat, 15 for backup seat.

I think most people need at least a small sub to clean up a room...so why pay for an extra 6-7hz when you likely have some pretty big swings under 150hz that need help.

I have a pipe organ demo - 2.0 the speakers were fine, 2.1 sounds the same really...was playing around 95db for the fun of it. I think only in HT and room correction do subs really start to make a difference. I have a HUGE dip at 90hz to deal with in my room...room correction goes berserk trying to adjust to that and then my room is flat down to like sub 25hz....go figure.

I think im gonna man up and buy one small sub and one sub of doom and dial in every under 200hz by hand. Stupid 2nd floor room with garage underneath it...it measures different if a car is parked in there lol.

I have 2 audio correction setups - one for large( no sub 2.0) , one at 60 hz with a sub - they sound the same since they are dialed in flat to under 30hz...the sub one is flat to 17hz, but nothing is going on down there in music.

For HT all speakers should be set to small or the sub isnt gonna come on unless its an LFE track (your setup can very, typical receiver)

For more total room volume, set the crossover high like 80-120
for no boomy music notes set it around 60

typical settings are mentioned above, im not trying to earn my masters in internet trolling or PHD in audio theory (my setup has a different crossover per channel, per position)

^Try messing with the distance of your speakers in the receiver and see if that null shrinks. Also move the speakers a bit and re-measure.

Twylight,
I'm sitting about 10ft from speakers right now and the room opens to my kitchen. Also the speakers will be about 1ft from the side and back wall will this work. My sub is HSU VTF15H.

nuance ive done the speaker dance for about 6-7 feet in every direction

very good advice, i fixed lots of rooms just by moving the listening zone around

you are in good shape imo

Any chance you can pull them further from the side and back walls? The more room they have the better they'll perform.