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post #781 of 4138
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

I have three young children. Turn your back for one second and...

With the risk of derailing this thread, how are the kids and wife doing, Nuance?
post #782 of 4138
Congratulations! Nethawk.....<(^^,>

Glad to hear your decision and I agree.......seems everyone is seeking quality and some truth and honesty-Dennis and Del offer both. Many guys here are willing to freely give their time to encourage and help us to produce the best sound out of our equipment.

I certainly appreciate it!
post #783 of 4138
Watched Hugo last night. It sounded so good, such a huge upgrade for me with the phil 2s + center. Dialogue was super clear.

The mesh of the front 3 is really impressive. At no point in the entire movie could I pinpoint a speaker or transition point of music/dialogue/ambiance changes.
post #784 of 4138
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Originally Posted by Twylight View Post

Watched Hugo last night. It sounded so good, such a huge upgrade for me with the phil 2s + center. Dialogue was super clear.

The mesh of the front 3 is really impressive. At no point in the entire movie could I pinpoint a speaker or transition point of music/dialogue/ambiance changes.

That's good to hear. Are you still just using light fill in the uppr cabinets? Are you getting any undesirable effects from the open back on movies?
post #785 of 4138
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Originally Posted by Twylight View Post

Watched Hugo last night. It sounded so good, such a huge upgrade for me with the phil 2s + center. Dialogue was super clear.

The mesh of the front 3 is really impressive. At no point in the entire movie could I pinpoint a speaker or transition point of music/dialogue/ambiance changes.

Twylight, from reading the R-972 threads...I think you are using an Sherwood R-972 with Trinnov, correct?

Not to take anything away from the Phils, but Trinnov in itself, is impressive! I have been messing around with it all weekend.
post #786 of 4138
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Originally Posted by Monkish54 View Post

With the risk of derailing this thread, how are the kids and wife doing, Nuance?

Good man, they are doing good. Thanks.
post #787 of 4138
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Good man, they are doing good. Thanks.

Good to hear!
post #788 of 4138
im using about 30 percent fill right now, lightly packed.

Its a big difference between no fill and packed...also the little diffusers for the tweeter really make a difference as well. im not using the tweeter diffusers as im pretty sure the bare Raal tweeters are just asking for a lego to be inserted.

Ill answer 972 questions in the trinnov thread or via PM.
post #789 of 4138
I had seen the tweeter diffusers in a post and photograph but not quite sure the purpose or application. Would someone kindly post a youtube video on everything a Philharmonic owner needs to know, preferably within the next two months?
post #790 of 4138
http://philharmonicaudio.com/philharmonic3.html

look close at the raal tweeter - its got 2 foam pads on it - the closer you move them together over the tweeter - it will diffuse and attenuate the tweeter about -5db from stock.
post #791 of 4138
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Originally Posted by Twylight View Post

http://philharmonicaudio.com/philharmonic3.html

look close at the raal tweeter - its got 2 foam pads on it - the closer you move them together over the tweeter - it will diffuse and attenuate the tweeter about -5db from stock.

Hi You can actually achieve a much broader range of attenuation than 5 dB. I've attached two plots I just took of a Phil 3 headed to Oklahoma. The flattest one is with a single pad located on the very bottom of the tweeter face plate. The second is with two pads placed close together. Between those applications, anyone should be able to find a tweeter balance that will make them happy.
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post #792 of 4138
i said "about" !!!
post #793 of 4138
Just contacted Del for his mailing address, will be ordering the center in black today.

So, get busier, Dennis!!!

Finally I call settle down to a semi-normal lifestyle, since my Mom's estate has been taken care of. I hate that Charlotte airport!!!!

Thanks, Twylight...I will be excited as I underestand now with a center speaker having done without one for awhile. Definitely want one and definitely need one!
post #794 of 4138
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Originally Posted by Dennis Murphy View Post

Hi You can actually achieve a much broader range of attenuation than 5 dB. I've attached two plots I just took of a Phil 3 headed to Oklahoma. The flattest one is with a single pad located on the very bottom of the tweeter face plate. The second is with two pads placed close together. Between those applications, anyone should be able to find a tweeter balance that will make them happy.

Wow, I didn't realize that was part of the Murphy speaker experience. That's a really nice feature, and just another reason to buy a pair of Phil's!
post #795 of 4138
Thread Starter 
I have seen the pads on the Raal tweeters before since they appear to be a stock part of the tweeter but I have never seen what kind of change in FR they can have until Dennis showed those above.

Dennis, do you usually recommend a specific configuration of those pads or do you go over with your customers how the FR can be changed by moving-adjusting them and let them test for themselves in room? Thanks.

James
post #796 of 4138
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Originally Posted by Dennis Murphy View Post

Hi You can actually achieve a much broader range of attenuation than 5 dB. I've attached two plots I just took of a Phil 3 headed to Oklahoma. The flattest one is with a single pad located on the very bottom of the tweeter face plate. The second is with two pads placed close together. Between those applications, anyone should be able to find a tweeter balance that will make them happy.

Just ignore the incorrect THD on the first plot.

I definitely prefer the flatter FR, so one pad on the very bottom of the tweeter face plate it is.
post #797 of 4138
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Originally Posted by AcuDefTechGuy View Post

I definitely prefer the flatter FR, so one pad on the very bottom of the tweeter face plate it is.

So says the guy who likes his bass 10db hot
post #798 of 4138
Yup, Mr. "B", two fronts Phily 2s and the monitor 2s in the office/PC area, which I am thoroughly loving them.

Since Gail has one ear drum nerve gone, (from a virus), I think the center would be advantageous. I honestly think, without a center, that we are missing some speech, since I sold the infinities, dialogue has just been lacking. But the phillys, well, shoes scrapping across rocks on the pavement, keys dinging in hand....all new sounds to us with the Philharmonic 2s. They add so much detail to mysteries/dramas. My wife said these new sounds are new to her as well. So, I would add that the RAAL is certainly performing as expected.

I just want one and I obligated myself to Dennis last year anyway. And, since I am a man of my word too, must keep it....he he!!

Also, if you keep pestering us....., you, sir are goin to get snatched up in to the "DM" Music Reproduction Perfection Syndrome in adults....(MRPSA.....

"With Nuance we would just be Dumb-ance"....and that's really sick!

Thanks again for your valuable input!!!!

It's all about what we want to hear and the Philharmonic line of speakers deliver!

And wait....if you buy a "2" pair of Philharmonic 2 or 3 speakers we'll throw in extra set deffuser pads at no extra charge!!!!
post #799 of 4138
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Originally Posted by Eternal Velocity View Post

So says the guy who likes his bass 10db hot

Well, but that's below 200Hz.

I like it flat from 200Hz-10kHz.
post #800 of 4138
Phil3 THD% @90dB:

30Hz: 2.3013%
40Hz: 1.589%
50Hz: 0.681%
100Hz: 0.2236%
1kHz: 0.0877%
2.8kHz: 0.4808%
5kHz: 0.2459%
10kHz: 0.0529%

Dennis elaborates:

"I should probably explain the higher figure at 2.8 kHz. I deliberately included that as a "worst case" for the RAAL ribbon. That's at the bottom of its operating range where it has to move the most air, which is hard for a nearly massless film of foil. For a ribbon, about .5% THD is an excellent figure in that range, and I sincerely doubt it's audible. As for the woofer readings, 1.6% at 40 hz, 90 dB is about as good as it gets."
post #801 of 4138
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Originally Posted by exojam View Post

I have seen the pads on the Raal tweeters before since they appear to be a stock part of the tweeter but I have never seen what kind of change in FR they can have until Dennis showed those above.

Dennis, do you usually recommend a specific configuration of those pads or do you go over with your customers how the FR can be changed by moving-adjusting them and let them test for themselves in room? Thanks.

James

I just tell people that the flattest response will be with one pad at the bottom or top. I voice the RAALs a little hot with no pads to provide a wide range of adjustment. I personally think the RAAL sounds best a little elevated at the top, but that's probably my old-age hearing loss setting in.
post #802 of 4138
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Dennis Murphy View Post

I just tell people that the flattest response will be with one pad at the bottom or top. I voice the RAALs a little hot with no pads to provide a wide range of adjustment. I personally think the RAAL sounds best a little elevated at the top, but that's probably my old-age hearing loss setting in.

Dennis,

Thank you very much for the response and for posting how the tweeter will measure with the pads or without one.

Keep up the good work as you seem to have very happy customer base for both product and support of them.

James
post #803 of 4138
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Originally Posted by Dennis Murphy View Post

I just tell people that the flattest response will be with one pad at the bottom or top. I voice the RAALs a little hot with no pads to provide a wide range of adjustment. I personally think the RAAL sounds best a little elevated at the top, but that's probably my old-age hearing loss setting in.

LOL....me too.
post #804 of 4138
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Originally Posted by woodsart View Post

Yup, Mr. "B", two fronts Phily 2s and the monitor 2s in the office/PC area, which I am thoroughly loving them.

Since Gail has one ear drum nerve gone, (from a virus), I think the center would be advantageous. I honestly think, without a center, that we are missing some speech, since I sold the infinities, dialogue has just been lacking. But the phillys, well, shoes scrapping across rocks on the pavement, keys dinging in hand....all new sounds to us with the Philharmonic 2s. They add so much detail to mysteries/dramas. My wife said these new sounds are new to her as well. So, I would add that the RAAL is certainly performing as expected.

I just want one and I obligated myself to Dennis last year anyway. And, since I am a man of my word too, must keep it....he he!!

Also, if you keep pestering us....., you, sir are goin to get snatched up in to the "DM" Music Reproduction Perfection Syndrome in adults....(MRPSA.....

"With Nuance we would just be Dumb-ance"....and that's really sick!

Thanks again for your valuable input!!!!

It's all about what we want to hear and the Philharmonic line of speakers deliver!

And wait....if you buy a "2" pair of Philharmonic 2 or 3 speakers we'll throw in extra set deffuser pads at no extra charge!!!!

I'm a moron - I didn't mean to quote you when I asked if you purchase a pair of fronts. DUH - of course you did. I thought Monkish posted about the center, not you. Time for some coffeee - WAKE UP BRANDON!
post #805 of 4138
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Originally Posted by Dennis Murphy View Post

I just tell people that the flattest response will be with one pad at the bottom or top. I voice the RAALs a little hot with no pads to provide a wide range of adjustment. I personally think the RAAL sounds best a little elevated at the top, but that's probably my old-age hearing loss setting in.

I'll take the old-age voicing please

Seriously, I hope one of you 'experts' creates a reference video or FAQ for the Philharmonics. While I'm sure they are just as plug-and-play as any other speaker what I'm learning about customization is most appealing, but just a tad confusing as well.
post #806 of 4138
Hummmm, How about a Caramel macchiato, Brandon!!
post #807 of 4138
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Originally Posted by Nethawk View Post

I'll take the old-age voicing please

Seriously, I hope one of you 'experts' creates a reference video or FAQ for the Philharmonics. While I'm sure they are just as plug-and-play as any other speaker what I'm learning about customization is most appealing, but just a tad confusing as well.

2 pads - under 20 yrs w/ heavy metal music

1 pad - over 20 yrs w/ more mature music

0 pad - over 65 and retired
post #808 of 4138
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Originally Posted by woodsart View Post

Hummmm, How about a Caramel macchiato, Brandon!!

That's my second favorite after the White Chocolate Mocha. Oh yeah!

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Originally Posted by Nethawk View Post

I'll take the old-age voicing please

Seriously, I hope one of you 'experts' creates a reference video or FAQ for the Philharmonics. While I'm sure they are just as plug-and-play as any other speaker what I'm learning about customization is most appealing, but just a tad confusing as well.

We'll help you with anything you need buddy; you know where to find us.

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Originally Posted by AcuDefTechGuy View Post

2 pads - under 20 yrs w/ heavy metal music

1 pad - over 20 yrs w/ more mature music

0 pad - over 65 and retired

LOL!
post #809 of 4138
So my wife has given me the go ahead since it's my birthday to order the Phil 2s. I just told Dennis to send me the invoice.
post #810 of 4138
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Originally Posted by d_m1010 View Post

So my wife has given me the go ahead since it's my birthday to order the Phil 2s. I just told Dennis to send me the invoice.

You won't regret a note of it!

Getting my center underway as well. Looks like Del is gonna be super busy!

Sorry Del!
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